Weekly Game Threads !

[Micah Prescott]

Michael Gallup out for year, somehow he tore his ACL on the TD catch. Weird injury.

That really sucks because when teams can take Lamb or Coop out leaving Gallup to always win his matchup on whatever CB3 is on him.

Got to stay healthy and we failed that part too.

[Cactus Jack]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/you-think-tony-romo-wasnt-clutch-in-big-moments-during-his-career-think-again/amp/

That is a complete breakdown of Romo in every situation. He had excellent numbers in clutch situations. He had excellent numbers period.

Part of it is fans putting way too much emphasis on rings when evaluating QBs. Peyton has had massive chokes throughout his career. He lost a Super Bowl on an INT. Russell Wilson has also thrown away a Super Bowl on an INT. That's as big as a "choke" can get. But fans forgive these massive chokes because these players already have rings.

Romo was a great QB and people who are realistic about this sport understand that. It's narrow minded fans who don't. Romo was definitely more skilled than Aikman was, in fact Aikman himself had said that numerous times.

We are not here and I did not ask about Wilson or Peyton. First of all Romo is not even in the same class as Wilson or Peyton.

Actually Romo was better than Wilson. Russ has always been kind of overrated because of winning a ring. But has struggled with consistency throughout his career. He needs a good running game to be at his best. He has the same problem as Mahomes. Often has tunnel vision when it comes to making the big play. It's frustrating.

[Mr B]

Michael Gallup out for year, somehow he tore his ACL on the TD catch. Weird injury.

That really sucks because when teams can take Lamb or Coop out leaving Gallup to always win his matchup on whatever CB3 is on him.

Got to stay healthy and we failed that part too.

With Wilson, and Turner they really won’t miss Gallup that much. The one I’m worried about is Dak. He’s been pretty bad the last 2 months outside of the Washington game. If he doesn’t play well they won’t get out of the 1st round.

[Micah Prescott]

Michael Gallup out for year, somehow he tore his ACL on the TD catch. Weird injury.

That really sucks because when teams can take Lamb or Coop out leaving Gallup to always win his matchup on whatever CB3 is on him.

Got to stay healthy and we failed that part too.

With Wilson, and Turner they really won’t miss Gallup that much. The one I’m worried about is Dak. He’s been pretty bad the last 2 months outside of the Washington game. If he doesn’t play well they won’t get out of the 1st round.

He did better in the 2nd half, I really feel like what Dak needed was a run threat. They removed our running game and that makes things much harder on a QB especially ours since we run play action on almost every pass.

We had 17 carries for 45 yards yesterday. That is horrid and that is not on Dak. That is a failure on our RBs and O-Line. Maybe play calling too.

The ridiculous amount of holding calls was also a huge issue, Zeke had a big run in there and of course it was called back.

[Mr B]

Michael Gallup out for year, somehow he tore his ACL on the TD catch. Weird injury.

That really sucks because when teams can take Lamb or Coop out leaving Gallup to always win his matchup on whatever CB3 is on him.

Got to stay healthy and we failed that part too.

With Wilson, and Turner they really won’t miss Gallup that much. The one I’m worried about is Dak. He’s been pretty bad the last 2 months outside of the Washington game. If he doesn’t play well they won’t get out of the 1st round.

He did better in the 2nd half, I really feel like what Dak needed was a run threat. They removed our running game and that makes things much harder on a QB especially ours since we run play action on almost every pass.

We had 17 carries for 45 yards yesterday. That is horrid and that is not on Dak. That is a failure on our RBs and O-Line. Maybe play calling too.

The ridiculous amount of holding calls was also a huge issue, Zeke had a big run in there and of course it was called back.

The running game is part of it but the lack of a running game is not the reason he’s sailing passes over guys heads or throwing behind them, or skipping passes off the ground. He had adequate protection yesterday, enough to play well. I also think Dak was checking out of run plays way too much.

[Micah Prescott]

Dak was 24/38 - 226 yds - 3 TDs - 0 INTs

I don't feel like Dak had a great game or anything, he made several bad throws. But at the same time I feel like there are better places to point the finger than him. Running game in particular was horrible.

McCarthy unable to challenge that fumble could have given us the win. Zuerlein being able to make a FG could have won it as well.

[bluejerseyjinx]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/you-think-tony-romo-wasnt-clutch-in-big-moments-during-his-career-think-again/amp/

That is a complete breakdown of Romo in every situation. He had excellent numbers in clutch situations. He had excellent numbers period.

Part of it is fans putting way too much emphasis on rings when evaluating QBs. Peyton has had massive chokes throughout his career. He lost a Super Bowl on an INT. Russell Wilson has also thrown away a Super Bowl on an INT. That's as big as a "choke" can get. But fans forgive these massive chokes because these players already have rings.

Romo was a great QB and people who are realistic about this sport understand that. It's narrow minded fans who don't. Romo was definitely more skilled than Aikman was, in fact Aikman himself had said that numerous times.

We are not here and I did not ask about Wilson or Peyton. First of all Romo is not even in the same class as Wilson or Peyton.

Actually Romo was better than Wilson. Russ has always been kind of overrated because of winning a ring. But has struggled with consistency throughout his career. He needs a good running game to be at his best. He has the same problem as Mahomes. Often has tunnel vision when it comes to making the big play. It's frustrating.

I disagree. When Wilson lost, most of the time it wasn't his fault. And he would have two rings if Pete didn't take the ball out of you know who's hands on second and goal from the one and a half yard line. And wouldn't it of been real nice just to have an opportunity for Romo to choke away a Super Bowl. He just choked away divisional match ups that cost us winning the division and going to the playoffs. A bit of a difference wouldn't ya say?

[bluejerseyjinx]

Dak was 24/38 - 226 yds - 3 TDs - 0 INTs

I don't feel like Dak had a great game or anything, he made several bad throws. But at the same time I feel like there are better places to point the finger than him. Running game in particular was horrible.

McCarthy unable to challenge that fumble could have given us the win. Zuerlein being able to make a FG could have won it as well.

God forbid you forgot to mention Tony Prescott's fumble one the second to last offensive series giving the Carndinals the winning field goal as it turned out.

[Cactus Jack]

We are not here and I did not ask about Wilson or Peyton. First of all Romo is not even in the same class as Wilson or Peyton.

Actually Romo was better than Wilson. Russ has always been kind of overrated because of winning a ring. But has struggled with consistency throughout his career. He needs a good running game to be at his best. He has the same problem as Mahomes. Often has tunnel vision when it comes to making the big play. It's frustrating.

I disagree. When Wilson lost, most of the time it wasn't his fault. And he would have two rings if Pete didn't take the ball out of you know who's hands on second and goal from the one and a half yard line. And wouldn't it of been real nice just to have an opportunity for Romo to choke away a Super Bowl. He just choked away divisional match ups that cost us winning the division and going to the playoffs. A bit of a difference wouldn't ya say?

Romo was a better pocket passer. He was better at throwing short & intermediate passes. He also had a great feel for the game. The only issue with him was he threw more interceptions & had costly turnovers. I'll give you that.

[Mr B]

Dak was 24/38 - 226 yds - 3 TDs - 0 INTs

I don't feel like Dak had a great game or anything, he made several bad throws. But at the same time I feel like there are better places to point the finger than him. Running game in particular was horrible.

McCarthy unable to challenge that fumble could have given us the win. Zuerlein being able to make a FG could have won it as well.

I still don’t blame MM for not having a time out. They were forced to use their last timeout because of a horrible officiating call. The Arizona RB clearly ran out of bounds which should have stopped the clock. They ruled him down in bounds forcing the Cowboys to use their last timeout. There’s video of it I’m trying to find. I’ll post it when I find it.

[Mr B]

This is the reason the Cowboys had to use their last timeout. This tackle by Parsons was ruled in bounds. They said the RB was down before going out of bounds.

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[bluejerseyjinx]

Actually Romo was better than Wilson. Russ has always been kind of overrated because of winning a ring. But has struggled with consistency throughout his career. He needs a good running game to be at his best. He has the same problem as Mahomes. Often has tunnel vision when it comes to making the big play. It's frustrating.

I disagree. When Wilson lost, most of the time it wasn't his fault. And he would have two rings if Pete didn't take the ball out of you know who's hands on second and goal from the one and a half yard line. And wouldn't it of been real nice just to have an opportunity for Romo to choke away a Super Bowl. He just choked away divisional match ups that cost us winning the division and going to the playoffs. A bit of a difference wouldn't ya say?

Romo was a better pocket passer. He was better at throwing short & intermediate passes. He also had a great feel for the game. The only issue with him was he threw more interceptions & had costly turnovers. I'll give you that.

Until something was on the line or a huge moment. Then it all went away. Romo was plain and simple a complete choke artist in the biggest moments when things were on the line.

[Mr B]

I disagree. When Wilson lost, most of the time it wasn't his fault. And he would have two rings if Pete didn't take the ball out of you know who's hands on second and goal from the one and a half yard line. And wouldn't it of been real nice just to have an opportunity for Romo to choke away a Super Bowl. He just choked away divisional match ups that cost us winning the division and going to the playoffs. A bit of a difference wouldn't ya say?

Romo was a better pocket passer. He was better at throwing short & intermediate passes. He also had a great feel for the game. The only issue with him was he threw more interceptions & had costly turnovers. I'll give you that.

Until something was on the line or a huge moment. Then it all went away. Romo was plain and simple a complete choke artist in the biggest moments when things were on the line.

Can’t say I disagree about Romo. Was great during the regular season but always seemed to fold when the stakes were highest. So far Dak hasn’t proven to be different. He has time to change that narrative but as of right now I’m not certain he’s even as good as Romo was.

He has to prove he’s better, it’s not going to just be given to him.

[Micah Prescott]

An NFL team losing =/= the QB folded under pressure

Rings don't make Wilson better than Romo (not saying he isn't) just like rings don't make Nick Foles better than Dan Marino.

Some fans will never be able to properly separate Wins and Loses from judging QB talent but that is exactly what scouts have to do. They have to be able to look at individual performances without giving the slightest care as to who wins or loses the game, because that part is the result of the entire team, coaches, and even the refs.

[Mr B]

An NFL team losing =/= the QB folded under pressure

Rings don't make Wilson better than Romo (not saying he isn't) just like rings don't make Nick Foles better than Dan Marino.

Some fans will never be able to properly separate Wins and Loses from judging QB talent but that is exactly what scouts have to do. They have to be able to look at individual performances without giving the slightest care as to who wins or loses the game, because that part is the result of the entire team, coaches, and even the refs.

You’re right, it’s not about rings exactly. But playoff performances do count in addition to stats. Marino retired with pretty much every QB record under his belt. He also has QB’d his team to a SB.

Romo has the stats but failed when the lights were brightest. He had a tendency to either fumble or throw an interception when his team needed him most.

Eli Manning will likely get into the HOF. He doesn’t have the stats that Romo has however he had 2 clutch performances in the playoffs that helped his team get 2 rings. He played his best when his team needed him to. That’s why he’s likely to get into the HOF and Romo isn’t. It’s also why I would take Eli over Romo.

[Micah Prescott]

An NFL team losing =/= the QB folded under pressure

Rings don't make Wilson better than Romo (not saying he isn't) just like rings don't make Nick Foles better than Dan Marino.

Some fans will never be able to properly separate Wins and Loses from judging QB talent but that is exactly what scouts have to do. They have to be able to look at individual performances without giving the slightest care as to who wins or loses the game, because that part is the result of the entire team, coaches, and even the refs.

You’re right, it’s not about rings exactly. But playoff performances do count in addition to stats. Marino retired with pretty much every QB record under his belt. He also has QB’d his team to a SB.

Romo has the stats but failed when the lights were brightest. He had a tendency to either fumble or throw an interception when his team needed him most.

Eli Manning will likely get into the HOF. He doesn’t have the stats that Romo has however he had 2 clutch performances in the playoffs that helped his team get 2 rings. He played his best when his team needed him to. That’s why he’s likely to get into the HOF and Romo isn’t. It’s also why I would take Eli over Romo.

Romo was a much better QB than Eli sorry. It's not even close either. Even in the post season Romo was a 93 rating vs Eli 87

Eli's TEAM made it further. His WRs caught balls on their helmets. As far as raw talent goes? Romo had Eli beat by a long shot, but his TEAM didn't go as far.

[Micah Prescott]

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/04/tony-romo-clutch-4th-quarter-comebacks-game-winning-drives-stats

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The whole "Romo failed when the lights were brightest" take has been disproven time and time and time again. Over and over.

It's basically just a meme that started with the Seahawks muffed snap and some fans never let go of that meme.

[Mr B]

An NFL team losing =/= the QB folded under pressure

Rings don't make Wilson better than Romo (not saying he isn't) just like rings don't make Nick Foles better than Dan Marino.

Some fans will never be able to properly separate Wins and Loses from judging QB talent but that is exactly what scouts have to do. They have to be able to look at individual performances without giving the slightest care as to who wins or loses the game, because that part is the result of the entire team, coaches, and even the refs.

You’re right, it’s not about rings exactly. But playoff performances do count in addition to stats. Marino retired with pretty much every QB record under his belt. He also has QB’d his team to a SB.

Romo has the stats but failed when the lights were brightest. He had a tendency to either fumble or throw an interception when his team needed him most.

Eli Manning will likely get into the HOF. He doesn’t have the stats that Romo has however he had 2 clutch performances in the playoffs that helped his team get 2 rings. He played his best when his team needed him to. That’s why he’s likely to get into the HOF and Romo isn’t. It’s also why I would take Eli over Romo.

Romo was a much better QB than Eli sorry. It's not even close either. Even in the post season Romo was a 93 rating vs Eli 87

Eli's TEAM made it further. His WRs caught balls on their helmets. As far as raw talent goes? Romo had Eli beat by a long shot, but his TEAM didn't go as far.

During the regular season you are correct. But give me the guy that’s clutch over the guy that puts up stats. Numbers don’t mean crap if you never win a title (from a fans perspective).

And I disagree that Eli’s team made it to the SB and not because of him. On both of those SB runs for the Giants Eli was again, clutch. Also Eli was the SB MVP in both seasons and was a pro bowler in both season. Now those may be the only 2 seasons where Eli was great but give me 2 great seasons that end in a SB win over a guy that put up great stats but never got passed the second round of the playoffs. And I don’t care what anyone says 2007 was the biggest choke job in Cowboys history. They had the #1 seed, and pissed it away.

[Mr B]

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/04/tony-romo-clutch-4th-quarter-comebacks-game-winning-drives-stats

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The whole "Romo failed when the lights were brightest" take has been disproven time and time and time again. Over and over.

It's basically just a meme that started with the Seahawks muffed snap and some fans never let go of that meme.

What are his playoff stats and wins and losses? SB stats? Hell how about NFC Title game stats?

[Cactus Jack]

Romo was a better pocket passer. He was better at throwing short & intermediate passes. He also had a great feel for the game. The only issue with him was he threw more interceptions & had costly turnovers. I'll give you that.

Until something was on the line or a huge moment. Then it all went away. Romo was plain and simple a complete choke artist in the biggest moments when things were on the line.

Can’t say I disagree about Romo. Was great during the regular season but always seemed to fold when the stakes were highest. So far Dak hasn’t proven to be different. He has time to change that narrative but as of right now I’m not certain he’s even as good as Romo was.

He has to prove he’s better, it’s not going to just be given to him.

Dak has been in a slump much like Wilson. Both have dealt with injuries & have a lot of similarities. Obviously Dak has a better team around him at the moment. Wilson had the Legion of Boom which led to more success early in his career. But people doubted him for that reason. Could he carry a team by himself? Watching him all these years, I don't think he can. I feel the same way about Dak too fwiw. Neither one belong in the same company as Brady, Rodgers, or Mahomes (tier). They each need a strong supporting cast around them. That much is pretty clear.