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Post#221 » by #1TKfan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:13 am

boogeydown wrote:Here's a name that hasn't been mentioned much but what do you guys think of Tyler Eifert? Witten won't play forever and considering Eifert's injury history I doubt he gets a huge deal. Gathers at this point is a mystery. Also after seeing what Watkins and Robinson got in free agency I doubt Dez takes a cut too.


I'd go for Celek before Eifert. Tylers durability is always a concern.
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Post#222 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:14 am

boogeydown wrote:Here's a name that hasn't been mentioned much but what do you guys think of Tyler Eifert? Witten won't play forever and considering Eifert's injury history I doubt he gets a huge deal. Gathers at this point is a mystery. Also after seeing what Watkins and Robinson got in free agency I doubt Dez takes a cut too.


If Dez doesn’t take a cut... Dez WILL get cut. I’m convinced of that. They will need some of his cap space to sign Martin. Because... Andrew Norwell will not be the highest paid guard in the NFL come July. I’ll guarantee that.
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Post#223 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:31 pm

Cowboys place a 2nd Round tender on David Irving. $2.91M...
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Post#224 » by gravytrain24 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:49 pm

Otis Driftwood wrote:Cowboys place a 2nd Round tender on David Irving. $2.91M...

I'd really like to get Suh in here to pair with Lawrence and Irving. D-line could be a strength.
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Post#225 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:45 pm

gravytrain24 wrote:Just read on sporting news that Suh would be a good fit for Dallas. He would have to take a whole lot less money but it could be worth it. I just don't remember if he was antic free last season.

I disagree with that article. I think it would be a disaster having Suh in here. Rather stay young and finish defense with the draft. We don't need a red flag player like Suh with his issues and baggage. Left him go somewhere else. We are looking to get younger, better, etc,. We don't need to be set back.
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Post#226 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:21 pm

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Otis Driftwood wrote:Cowboys place a 2nd Round tender on David Irving. $2.91M...

I'd really like to get Suh in here to pair with Lawrence and Irving. D-line could be a strength.


For the right price... Suh & Irving along with Collins and draft pick <fill in the blank> would make a nice 4 man rotation at DT. And free up Lawrence to do what he does. I could do that for a year or two.
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Post#227 » by gravytrain24 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:42 pm

Solder to the Giants, that's a good pickup for them. They need O-Line help in the worst way.
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Post#228 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:16 pm

I see where Allen Robinson went to the Bears. I wish we could have been able to afford him, damn.
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Post#229 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:34 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:I see where Allen Robinson went to the Bears. I wish we could have been able to afford him, damn.


With our $600,000.00 in cap space, we can barely afford pizza.
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Post#230 » by gravytrain24 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:10 pm

Maybe the cowboys will use all 10 picks, only because they have no money to spend.
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Post#231 » by Otis Driftwood » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:49 am

gravytrain24 wrote:Maybe the cowboys will use all 10 picks, only because they have no money to spend.


Allow me to propose...

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Post#232 » by gravytrain24 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:53 am

Otis Driftwood wrote:
gravytrain24 wrote:Maybe the cowboys will use all 10 picks, only because they have no money to spend.


Allow me to propose...

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That is a spicy trade right there. I don't know if i would do it b/c this offense is built on the run game and you still wouldn't have money to get a G/T or a high draft pick. Next years 1st, with some picks this year, okay.
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Post#233 » by Otis Driftwood » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:01 am

gravytrain24 wrote:
Otis Driftwood wrote:
gravytrain24 wrote:Maybe the cowboys will use all 10 picks, only because they have no money to spend.


Allow me to propose...

Read on Twitter

That is a spicy trade right there. I don't know if i would do it b/c this offense is built on the run game and you still wouldn't have money to get a G/T or a high draft pick. Next years 1st, with some picks this year, okay.


It definitely changes the whole draft process...

I’d be tempted - I’m not denying it. Real tempted.

By the way - The Sports Narrative is a terrific follow on Twitter. I’ve been following Jeff and the boys for a couple of years. They are solid with their draft analysis and have a lot more hits than most.
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Post#234 » by gravytrain24 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:12 am

Otis Driftwood wrote:
gravytrain24 wrote:
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Allow me to propose...

Read on Twitter

That is a spicy trade right there. I don't know if i would do it b/c this offense is built on the run game and you still wouldn't have money to get a G/T or a high draft pick. Next years 1st, with some picks this year, okay.


It definitely changes the whole draft process...

I’d be tempted - I’m not denying it. Real tempted.

By the way - The Sports Narrative is a terrific follow on Twitter. I’ve been following Jeff and the boys for a couple of years. They are solid with their draft analysis and have a lot more hits than most.

Even with this years pick? I don't know if i would do it only b/c there are really good players that could be had in the 1st that help the boys in the future and we don't have the replacement for Martin, who was a 1st rounder.
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Post#235 » by Otis Driftwood » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:23 am

gravytrain24 wrote:
Otis Driftwood wrote:
gravytrain24 wrote:That is a spicy trade right there. I don't know if i would do it b/c this offense is built on the run game and you still wouldn't have money to get a G/T or a high draft pick. Next years 1st, with some picks this year, okay.


It definitely changes the whole draft process...

I’d be tempted - I’m not denying it. Real tempted.

By the way - The Sports Narrative is a terrific follow on Twitter. I’ve been following Jeff and the boys for a couple of years. They are solid with their draft analysis and have a lot more hits than most.

Even with this years pick? I don't know if i would do it only b/c there are really good players that could be had in the 1st that help the boys in the future and we don't have the replacement for Martin, who was a 1st rounder.


It’s a gutsy move... and you’re putting your trust in Will McClay to use those ten picks and bring in the right guys. You’re also getting a lot more cost certainty... instead of paying your left guard $16M annually when you have to pay your QB and RB in the next two years. And - as my friend Cactus Jack said in the main forum thread - don’t have to trade 1st round picks...

I’d have to give this one serious consideration.
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Post#236 » by gravytrain24 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:33 am

Otis Driftwood wrote:
gravytrain24 wrote:
Otis Driftwood wrote:
It definitely changes the whole draft process...

I’d be tempted - I’m not denying it. Real tempted.

By the way - The Sports Narrative is a terrific follow on Twitter. I’ve been following Jeff and the boys for a couple of years. They are solid with their draft analysis and have a lot more hits than most.

Even with this years pick? I don't know if i would do it only b/c there are really good players that could be had in the 1st that help the boys in the future and we don't have the replacement for Martin, who was a 1st rounder.


It’s a gutsy move... and you’re putting your trust in Will McClay to use those ten picks and bring in the right guys. You’re also getting a lot more cost certainty... instead of paying your left guard $16M annually when you have to pay your QB and RB in the next two years. And - as my friend Cactus Jack said in the main forum thread - don’t have to trade 1st round picks...

I’d have to give this one serious consideration.

Say you do the deal, what would the cap space look like next year because it would be a waste to trade both this season and then lose Thomas next season b/c they don't want to pay him what he wants.
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Post#237 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:40 am

At least we know what we have in Martin. I think I keep him.
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Post#238 » by Otis Driftwood » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:40 am

gravytrain24 wrote:
Otis Driftwood wrote:
gravytrain24 wrote:Even with this years pick? I don't know if i would do it only b/c there are really good players that could be had in the 1st that help the boys in the future and we don't have the replacement for Martin, who was a 1st rounder.


It’s a gutsy move... and you’re putting your trust in Will McClay to use those ten picks and bring in the right guys. You’re also getting a lot more cost certainty... instead of paying your left guard $16M annually when you have to pay your QB and RB in the next two years. And - as my friend Cactus Jack said in the main forum thread - don’t have to trade 1st round picks...

I’d have to give this one serious consideration.

Say you do the deal, what would the cap space look like next year because it would be a waste to trade both this season and then lose Thomas next season b/c they don't want to pay him what he wants.


Obviously you don’t do a deal like that unless you get an agreement in principle with Thomas prior. Same with Seattle and Martin. And doing that allows you to start establishing cap parameters for next year when you know you have to pay your QB and RB. Definitely requires a lot of work. But I almost think you have to look at it and do your due diligence.
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Post#239 » by gravytrain24 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:49 am

Otis Driftwood wrote:
gravytrain24 wrote:
Otis Driftwood wrote:
It’s a gutsy move... and you’re putting your trust in Will McClay to use those ten picks and bring in the right guys. You’re also getting a lot more cost certainty... instead of paying your left guard $16M annually when you have to pay your QB and RB in the next two years. And - as my friend Cactus Jack said in the main forum thread - don’t have to trade 1st round picks...

I’d have to give this one serious consideration.

Say you do the deal, what would the cap space look like next year because it would be a waste to trade both this season and then lose Thomas next season b/c they don't want to pay him what he wants.


Obviously you don’t do a deal like that unless you get an agreement in principle with Thomas prior. Same with Seattle and Martin. And doing that allows you to start establishing cap parameters for next year when you know you have to pay your QB and RB. Definitely requires a lot of work. But I almost think you have to look at it and do your due diligence.

Can you make a trade like that? Able to establish contracts with the player before he's on your team. To me this sounds like a Paul George scenario, i'd wait for him to hit free agency.
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Post#240 » by gravytrain24 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:52 pm

Thank you Travis for restructuring and giving the boys 7.5 mil in cap space.

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