State of Cowboys Union?

[bluejerseyjinx]

Interceptions. Something that has been missing from our defense for quite a few years now. If our defense could give us a few turn overs or interceptions every week, we will be a very dangerous team.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Wow. Cowboys sign Andy Dalton. We don't have a back up QB problem anymore.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Cowboys sign Cameron Ervin. Great pick and some more OL depth. Looks like Jerry is going all in this year for sure.

[Mr B]

Cowboys sign Cameron Ervin. Great pick and some more OL depth. Looks like Jerry is going all in this year for sure.

He’s definitely done a lot this off season which is nice to see. You can also see McCarthy’s stamp on the team too already. I would like them to still find a proven pass rusher opposite Demarcus Lawrence.

Safety is still a question mark too. I’d also like to know how LVE is doing with his neck injury. Then of course they still need to sign Dak.


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[bluejerseyjinx]

Cowboys sign Cameron Ervin. Great pick and some more OL depth. Looks like Jerry is going all in this year for sure.

He’s definitely done a lot this off season which is nice to see. You can also see McCarthy’s stamp on the team too already. I would like them to still find a proven pass rusher opposite Demarcus Lawrence.

Safety is still a question mark too. I’d also like to know how LVE is doing with his neck injury. Then of course they still need to sign Dak.


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Dak is really starting to piss me off now. It's gotten to the point for me that he really doesn't want to be a true blue Cowboy. What QB in their right mind wouldn't want to steer the ship with the offense they have now?

[Mr B]

Cowboys sign Cameron Ervin. Great pick and some more OL depth. Looks like Jerry is going all in this year for sure.

He’s definitely done a lot this off season which is nice to see. You can also see McCarthy’s stamp on the team too already. I would like them to still find a proven pass rusher opposite Demarcus Lawrence.

Safety is still a question mark too. I’d also like to know how LVE is doing with his neck injury. Then of course they still need to sign Dak.


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Dak is rally starting to piss me off now. It's gotten to the point for me that he really doesn't want to be a true blue Cowboy. What QB in their right mind wouldn't want to steer the ship with the offense they have now.

Since there likely isn’t going to be much of an off season the real deadline for Dak is July 15th. That’s the deadline for him to sign the franchise tag. I still say that if they don’t get a deal done by July 15th and he plays this year under the franchise tag, then Dak will not be on the Cowboys in 2021.


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[bluejerseyjinx]

I'm aware he has until then to sign. I really don't think he wants to be a Cowboy. I hardly ever side with Jerry, but Jerry has given him all the tools on offense he needs to be extremely successful with the addition of lamb and finally getting rid of dumb ass Garrett.

[bluejerseyjinx]

He’s definitely done a lot this off season which is nice to see. You can also see McCarthy’s stamp on the team too already. I would like them to still find a proven pass rusher opposite Demarcus Lawrence.

Safety is still a question mark too. I’d also like to know how LVE is doing with his neck injury. Then of course they still need to sign Dak.


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Dak is rally starting to piss me off now. It's gotten to the point for me that he really doesn't want to be a true blue Cowboy. What QB in their right mind wouldn't want to steer the ship with the offense they have now.

Since there likely isn’t going to be much of an off season the real deadline for Dak is July 15th. That’s the deadline for him to sign the franchise tag. I still say that if they don’t get a deal done by July 15th and he plays this year under the franchise tag, then Dak will not be on the Cowboys in 2021.


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Too bad I didn't see the signing of Andy Dalton coming before all this. If I had any idea Dak was going to be this stubborn, I would have traded him to a **** team and got 2 first round draft choices. You can look at all the stats and numbers he put up last year, but the plain brutal truth of the matter is he only beat one team with a winning record last season. When you can't beat and compete with the absolute best teams in the league, I can't see us ever getting to the promised land. For the first time in two years my patience is wearing on Dak. Tired of his ass. He acts like he belongs with the likes of Mahomes, Rodgers, Wilson Brees. I need to see a lot more from him and I'm not seeing it yet.

[bluejerseyjinx]

He’s definitely done a lot this off season which is nice to see. You can also see McCarthy’s stamp on the team too already. I would like them to still find a proven pass rusher opposite Demarcus Lawrence.

Safety is still a question mark too. I’d also like to know how LVE is doing with his neck injury. Then of course they still need to sign Dak.


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Dak is rally starting to piss me off now. It's gotten to the point for me that he really doesn't want to be a true blue Cowboy. What QB in their right mind wouldn't want to steer the ship with the offense they have now.

Since there likely isn’t going to be much of an off season the real deadline for Dak is July 15th. That’s the deadline for him to sign the franchise tag. I still say that if they don’t get a deal done by July 15th and he plays this year under the franchise tag, then Dak will not be on the Cowboys in 2021.


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Unless Dak gets us to the Super Bowl. He's willing to bet on himself this season. And to be honest, I really think this is it for Dak. Not a rookie anymore, Elliot and everyone is healthy and no suspensions, Garrett is finally gone so there are no excuses now. Jerry has put together everything he needs to succeed. This is all about Dak to see if he is the guy.

[Mr B]

Dak is rally starting to piss me off now. It's gotten to the point for me that he really doesn't want to be a true blue Cowboy. What QB in their right mind wouldn't want to steer the ship with the offense they have now.

Since there likely isn’t going to be much of an off season the real deadline for Dak is July 15th. That’s the deadline for him to sign the franchise tag. I still say that if they don’t get a deal done by July 15th and he plays this year under the franchise tag, then Dak will not be on the Cowboys in 2021.


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Unless Dak gets us to the Super Bowl. He's willing to bet on himself this season. And to be honest, I really think this is it for Dak. Not a rookie anymore, Elliot and everyone is healthy and no suspensions, Garrett is finally gone so there are no excuses now. Jerry has put together everything he needs to succeed. This is all about Dak to see if he is the guy.

There are definitely no more excuses. I still say though that if he doesn’t sign an extension by the 15th he will not be the Cowboys QB in 2021.

The rumor this morning was that he would sign a 4 yr/$35M per year deal by the 15th. That was before Mahomes got 10 yrs/$45M per year. If Dak now rejects 4 yrs/$35M per I would look to trade him this season.


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[bluejerseyjinx]

Since there likely isn’t going to be much of an off season the real deadline for Dak is July 15th. That’s the deadline for him to sign the franchise tag. I still say that if they don’t get a deal done by July 15th and he plays this year under the franchise tag, then Dak will not be on the Cowboys in 2021.


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Unless Dak gets us to the Super Bowl. He's willing to bet on himself this season. And to be honest, I really think this is it for Dak. Not a rookie anymore, Elliot and everyone is healthy and no suspensions, Garrett is finally gone so there are no excuses now. Jerry has put together everything he needs to succeed. This is all about Dak to see if he is the guy.

There are definitely no more excuses. I still say though that if he doesn’t sign an extension by the 15th he will not be the Cowboys QB in 2021.

The rumor this morning was that he would sign a 4 yr/$35M per year deal by the 15th. That was before Mahomes got 10 yrs/$45M per year. If Dak now rejects 4 yrs/$35M per I would look to trade him this season.


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Wouldn't we get two first round draft choices if we did so?

[Mr B]

Unless Dak gets us to the Super Bowl. He's willing to bet on himself this season. And to be honest, I really think this is it for Dak. Not a rookie anymore, Elliot and everyone is healthy and no suspensions, Garrett is finally gone so there are no excuses now. Jerry has put together everything he needs to succeed. This is all about Dak to see if he is the guy.

There are definitely no more excuses. I still say though that if he doesn’t sign an extension by the 15th he will not be the Cowboys QB in 2021.

The rumor this morning was that he would sign a 4 yr/$35M per year deal by the 15th. That was before Mahomes got 10 yrs/$45M per year. If Dak now rejects 4 yrs/$35M per I would look to trade him this season.


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Wouldn't we get two first round draft choices if we so?

That’s typically that is what teams ask for in exchange for a franchise player. The team can accept whatever they want though. So if no team is offering two 1st the Cowboys can take the highest bidder if the want.


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[bluejerseyjinx]

Since there likely isn’t going to be much of an off season the real deadline for Dak is July 15th. That’s the deadline for him to sign the franchise tag. I still say that if they don’t get a deal done by July 15th and he plays this year under the franchise tag, then Dak will not be on the Cowboys in 2021.


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Unless Dak gets us to the Super Bowl. He's willing to bet on himself this season. And to be honest, I really think this is it for Dak. Not a rookie anymore, Elliot and everyone is healthy and no suspensions, Garrett is finally gone so there are no excuses now. Jerry has put together everything he needs to succeed. This is all about Dak to see if he is the guy.

There are definitely no more excuses. I still say though that if he doesn’t sign an extension by the 15th he will not be the Cowboys QB in 2021.

The rumor this morning was that he would sign a 4 yr/$35M per year deal by the 15th. That was before Mahomes got 10 yrs/$45M per year. If Dak now rejects 4 yrs/$35M per I would look to trade him this season.


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Maybe this has been Jerry's plan all along and that's the real reason we picked up Dalton. To hold down the fort for our next QB.

[Cactus Jack]

Unless Dak gets us to the Super Bowl. He's willing to bet on himself this season. And to be honest, I really think this is it for Dak. Not a rookie anymore, Elliot and everyone is healthy and no suspensions, Garrett is finally gone so there are no excuses now. Jerry has put together everything he needs to succeed. This is all about Dak to see if he is the guy.

There are definitely no more excuses. I still say though that if he doesn’t sign an extension by the 15th he will not be the Cowboys QB in 2021.

The rumor this morning was that he would sign a 4 yr/$35M per year deal by the 15th. That was before Mahomes got 10 yrs/$45M per year. If Dak now rejects 4 yrs/$35M per I would look to trade him this season.


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Wouldn't we get two first round draft choices if we did so?

No.

You can let him walk like Washington did with Cousins. Franchise him for 1 or 2 more years. As you look for his replacement.

If you franchise him a 3rd time however (2022 Season), then his cap number would spike big time (~50 million). Which isn't likely to happen for obvious reasons.

The most likely scenario if they don't work out a deal. Is they would franchise him again next year. Then he would walk in 2022.

Maybe this has been Jerry's plan all along and that's the real reason we picked up Dalton. To hold down the fort for our next QB.

And no, Andy Dalton is not as good as Dak.

[Mr B]

There are definitely no more excuses. I still say though that if he doesn’t sign an extension by the 15th he will not be the Cowboys QB in 2021.

The rumor this morning was that he would sign a 4 yr/$35M per year deal by the 15th. That was before Mahomes got 10 yrs/$45M per year. If Dak now rejects 4 yrs/$35M per I would look to trade him this season.


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Wouldn't we get two first round draft choices if we did so?

No.

You can let him walk like Washington did with Cousins. Franchise him for 1 or 2 more years. As you look for his replacement.

If you franchise him a 3rd time however (2022 Season), then his cap number would spike big time (~50 million). Which isn't likely to happen for obvious reasons.

The most likely scenario if they don't work out a deal. Is they would franchise him again next year. Then he would leave in 2022.

Maybe this has been Jerry's plan all along and that's the real reason we picked up Dalton. To hold down the fort for our next QB.

And no, Andy Dalton is not as good as Dak.

I thought the rule was changed and QB’s can only be franchised twice. I believe the franchise number for Dak next year would be $37M+.

I’ve been saying for a few weeks now that it’s my belief that if Dak does not sign a new contract by the 15th he will not be the Cowboys QB in 2021. I think Dak will have to get to at very least the NFC Championship Game for the Jones to pay him what he wants. He’s also going to have to be in the running for MVP. If he doesn’t do that I do not believe the Jones’ are going to want to pay him $37M.

Dalton is not a long term replacement but he is an adequate stop gap QB, a cheaper stop gap QB that could take over the reigns while a new young QB is being groomed. One of the reasons McCarthy was brought in, according to Jerry is because he’s a QB whisper. He’s worked with and developed some of the greatest QB’s of all time. He should be more than capable of helping Dalton along while a new guy learns.


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[Cactus Jack]

I thought the rule was changed and QB’s can only be franchised twice. I believe the franchise number for Dak next year would be $37M+.

My understanding is that the 3rd year (tag) jumps significantly (cap). According to John Clayton. Thus, teams are hesitant to use it at that point. Anyhow, you'd be looking at a number north of 40m.

I’ve been saying for a few weeks now that it’s my belief that if Dak does not sign a new contract by the 15th he will not be the Cowboys QB in 2021. I think Dak will have to get to at very least the NFC Championship Game for the Jones to pay him what he wants. He’s also going to have to be in the running for MVP. If he doesn’t do that I do not believe the Jones’ are going to want to pay him $37M.

It's possible.

Washington would have been better off (by letting Cousins go) if Alex Smith hadn't f'd up his leg so bad. Really unfortunate.

[bluejerseyjinx]

There are definitely no more excuses. I still say though that if he doesn’t sign an extension by the 15th he will not be the Cowboys QB in 2021.

The rumor this morning was that he would sign a 4 yr/$35M per year deal by the 15th. That was before Mahomes got 10 yrs/$45M per year. If Dak now rejects 4 yrs/$35M per I would look to trade him this season.


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Wouldn't we get two first round draft choices if we did so?

No.

You can let him walk like Washington did with Cousins. Franchise him for 1 or 2 more years. As you look for his replacement.

If you franchise him a 3rd time however (2022 Season), then his cap number would spike big time (~50 million). Which isn't likely to happen for obvious reasons.

The most likely scenario if they don't work out a deal. Is they would franchise him again next year. Then he would walk in 2022.

Maybe this has been Jerry's plan all along and that's the real reason we picked up Dalton. To hold down the fort for our next QB.

And no, Andy Dalton is not as good as Dak.

And no, Andy Dalton is not as bad as most people think either. I think Jerry anticipated this might happen and was thinking way down the line in case things got pissy with Dak's contract talks and wanted to cover his ass in case he decides to get rid of Dak in one form or another. I still feel and have posted numerous times on this subject, that Jerry did and still believes Dak is not his QB. Dak has to bet on himself and prove Jerry wrong this year or he is out next season.

[Cactus Jack]

I still feel and have posted numerous times on this subject, that Jerry did and still believes Dak is not his QB. Dak has to bet on himself and prove Jerry wrong this year or he is out next season.

If he still has to prove himself, then he's obviously not the long-term solution.

[Mr B]

I thought the rule was changed and QB’s can only be franchised twice. I believe the franchise number for Dak next year would be $37M+.

My understanding is that the 3rd year (tag) jumps significantly (cap). According to John Clayton. Thus, teams are hesitant to use it at that point. Anyhow, you'd be looking at a number north of 40m.

I’ve been saying for a few weeks now that it’s my belief that if Dak does not sign a new contract by the 15th he will not be the Cowboys QB in 2021. I think Dak will have to get to at very least the NFC Championship Game for the Jones to pay him what he wants. He’s also going to have to be in the running for MVP. If he doesn’t do that I do not believe the Jones’ are going to want to pay him $37M.

It's possible.

Washington would have been better off (by letting Cousins go) if Alex Smith hadn't f'd up his leg so bad. Really unfortunate.

For some reason I thought they changed that rule, according to Google it is 3 times though. I guess because the 3rd time you tag a player the salary jumps so much teams just never do it a 3rd time.

I agree with both of you though Jerry has made it clear that he’s not all in on Dak. If he was he would have already been paid. If Dak was really his guy he would have given Dak anything he wanted (as far as contract amount and length).

When Dalton has had weapons (healthy weapons) he’s shown he can play. His first 4 years almost mirror Dak’s first 4 years. Again, he’s not a long term answer but is a capable stop gap QB. He was making $16M a year in Cincy. Considering what QB’s are making now the Cowboys could likely resign Dalton to a 3 year deal at $16M-$20M. He would start while they groom a new guy and Dalton will ten transition to a backup role.


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[bluejerseyjinx]

I still feel and have posted numerous times on this subject, that Jerry did and still believes Dak is not his QB. Dak has to bet on himself and prove Jerry wrong this year or he is out next season.

If he still has to prove himself, then he's obviously not the long-term solution.

Everyone has given Dak all the excuses they can muster up to this point. Romo got hurt and Dak was just a rookie year one but had a decent year. Year two we had a few more bad contracts to get rid of and had a lot of dead money on the books preventing getting some more help with some weapons. Of course DEZ started acting up and throwing everyone under the bus and eventually he had to go. Then Zeke got suspended for 6 games and that killed the season for sure. So then we we gave up a first round draft choice and helped him out in that department, however the one thing Cowboy fans had been screaming about the past 6 years was still here, Carrott top clapping Jason Garrett.
So Garrett is gone finally. All the bad contract and dead money is gone now. All the dead weight and trouble makers are gone with Dez and Stretch mark mouth sucking Witten finally hitting the road. We've added Cooper and Lamb and have as good weapons as anyone in the NFL. Outside of injuries, there is no excuse with all this talent, for Dak to not take this team to the NFC Championship game at the very least.