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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#281 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:14 am

Mr B wrote:I’m not sure Mazi Smith will still be on the board at 26. The hype seems to be increasing around him. If he is still there at 26 and the Cowboys pass I doubt he makes it to the 2nd round. Someone will trade up in order to get the 5th year option in him. Dalton Kincaid is probably the only player I would take over Mazi.

I like Mazi. But you can find guys (NT) later on in the draft without having to use a 1st on him. I actually prefer Keeanu Benton. Very underrated. The guy can really get after it. I would take him in the 2nd round.


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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#282 » by Mr B » Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:54 pm

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Mr B wrote:I’m not sure Mazi Smith will still be on the board at 26. The hype seems to be increasing around him. If he is still there at 26 and the Cowboys pass I doubt he makes it to the 2nd round. Someone will trade up in order to get the 5th year option in him. Dalton Kincaid is probably the only player I would take over Mazi.

I like Mazi. But you can find guys (NT) later on in the draft without having to use a 1st on him. I actually prefer Keeanu Benton. Very underrated. The guy can really get after it. I would take him in the 2nd round.



You won’t find a guy like Mazi later in the draft. He has a motor that buys in the middle rounds just don’t have. That’s why he’s projected as a 1st rounder and they’re projected as middle round guys. Mazi Smith is a difference maker.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#283 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:28 pm

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Mr B wrote:I’m not sure Mazi Smith will still be on the board at 26. The hype seems to be increasing around him. If he is still there at 26 and the Cowboys pass I doubt he makes it to the 2nd round. Someone will trade up in order to get the 5th year option in him. Dalton Kincaid is probably the only player I would take over Mazi.

I like Mazi. But you can find guys (NT) later on in the draft without having to use a 1st on him. I actually prefer Keeanu Benton. Very underrated. The guy can really get after it. I would take him in the 2nd round.



Well, that's your opinion and I totally disagree. I think Mazi is the second best DT in the draft. DT is not a sexy position come draft day but I believe in controlling the line of scrimmage and I believe this kid will make a huge difference and allow us to more and other things with Parsons. His motor is non stop and I love that.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#284 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:35 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:I'll pass on that one. No offense to Kincaid, but I want Mazi. :noway:

Well, I didn't ask you. :wink: :kissmybutt:

I was hoping to get a response from Mr. B.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#285 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:23 pm

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Mr B wrote:I’m not sure Mazi Smith will still be on the board at 26. The hype seems to be increasing around him. If he is still there at 26 and the Cowboys pass I doubt he makes it to the 2nd round. Someone will trade up in order to get the 5th year option in him. Dalton Kincaid is probably the only player I would take over Mazi.

I like Mazi. But you can find guys (NT) later on in the draft without having to use a 1st on him. I actually prefer Keeanu Benton. Very underrated. The guy can really get after it. I would take him in the 2nd round.



You won’t find a guy like Mazi later in the draft. He has a motor that buys in the middle rounds just don’t have. That’s why he’s projected as a 1st rounder and they’re projected as middle round guys. Mazi Smith is a difference maker.

Mazi is a good player. I just think he's a little overrated. If I can find another guy with a later pick (Benton) & not have to spend a first. That's the direction I would go is all.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#286 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:27 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:I guess you didn't read the last page. I want DT in the first round and OL or LB in the 2nd. Round 3 take either RB or TE there. I'm wondering if it would be too chancy to trade back a bit to get another 2nd round pick and still get Mazi. As far as disappointment, Jerry has been that since 2002.

Names? It would help. I know you've scouted.

I applaud Mr. B for at least bringing up some other names for discussion. Now its your turn.

For starters, I want Mazi Smith with the first pick if we stand pat with our first pick. Don't know how many times I need to post this. Only two players I would move up to take would be for Bijaan Robinson or Paris Campbell but I hardly doubt we do that unless they fall close to us that moving up wouldn't cost a whole hell of a lot. I'm hearing Jerry has been constantly master baiting over Robinson so its hard to tell what might happen there.
So round 2 I really like O-line here so I have;
John Michael Schmitz, Center out of Minnesota
Darnell Wright, OL out of Tennessee
Jaelyn Duncan, OL out of Maryland
who I all like should we take this route. I do like a couple WR's in this round but I hope and doubt we take one with the signing Brandon Cooks, Josh Downs, WR from North Carolina and Jalin Hyatt out of Tennessee.
Round 3 there are two RB's I love if we don't move up in round 1 and take Robinson, Zach Charbonnett from UCLA (Finally saw some tape on him and I now see what Mr. B was trying to tell me) and I can't explain it but I love that Tyjae Spears out of Tulane. I think I love his speed, cutting ability on a dime along with his great hands and catching ability. He could be a nightmare passing type RB. Also in this round there is a LB out of Iowa I like a lot, Jack Campbell. TCU also has G- Steve Avila who I also like.
I just started scouting round 5 so the only name I can give you right now is LB - Brenton Cocks Jr. out of Florida.
To be continued. Is that what you are looking for and good enough for now Jackie Poo? I hope so, that's all I have at the moment. :wink:
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#287 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:32 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:I guess you didn't read the last page. I want DT in the first round and OL or LB in the 2nd. Round 3 take either RB or TE there. I'm wondering if it would be too chancy to trade back a bit to get another 2nd round pick and still get Mazi. As far as disappointment, Jerry has been that since 2002.

Names? It would help. I know you've scouted.

I applaud Mr. B for at least bringing up some other names for discussion. Now its your turn.

For starters, I want Mazi Smith with the first pick if we stand pat with our first pick. Don't know how many times I need to post this. Only two players I would move up to take would be for Bijaan Robinson or Paris Campbell but I hardly doubt we do that unless they fall close to us that moving up wouldn't cost a whole hell of a lot. I'm hearing Jerry has been constantly mater baiting over Robinson so its hard to tell what might happen there.
So round 2 I really like O-line here so I have;
John Michael Schmitz, Center out of Minnesota
Darnell Wright, OL out of Tennessee
Jaelyn Duncan, OL out of Maryland
who I all like should we take this route. I do like a couple WR's in this round but I hope and doubt we take one with the signing Brandon Cooks, Josh Downs, WR from North Carolina and Jalin Hyatt out of Tennessee.
Round 3 there are two RB's I love if we don't move up in round 1 and take Robinson, Zach Charbonnett from UCLA (Finally saw some tape on him and I now see what Mr. B was trying to tell me) and I can't explain it but I love that Tyjae Spears out of Tulane. I think I love his speed, cutting ability on a dime along with his great hands and catching ability. He could be a nightmare passing type RB. Also in this round there is a LB out of Iowa I like a lot, Jack Campbell. TCU also has G- Steve Avila who I also like.
I just started scouting round 5 so the only name I can give you right now is LB - Brenton Cocks Jr. out of Florida.
To be continues. Is that what you are looking for and good enough for now Jackie Poo? I hope so, that's all I have at the moment. :wink:

Okay, now was that so difficult? :wink:

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#288 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:39 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Names? It would help. I know you've scouted.

I applaud Mr. B for at least bringing up some other names for discussion. Now its your turn.

For starters, I want Mazi Smith with the first pick if we stand pat with our first pick. Don't know how many times I need to post this. Only two players I would move up to take would be for Bijaan Robinson or Paris Campbell but I hardly doubt we do that unless they fall close to us that moving up wouldn't cost a whole hell of a lot. I'm hearing Jerry has been constantly mater baiting over Robinson so its hard to tell what might happen there.
So round 2 I really like O-line here so I have;
John Michael Schmitz, Center out of Minnesota
Darnell Wright, OL out of Tennessee
Jaelyn Duncan, OL out of Maryland
who I all like should we take this route. I do like a couple WR's in this round but I hope and doubt we take one with the signing Brandon Cooks, Josh Downs, WR from North Carolina and Jalin Hyatt out of Tennessee.
Round 3 there are two RB's I love if we don't move up in round 1 and take Robinson, Zach Charbonnett from UCLA (Finally saw some tape on him and I now see what Mr. B was trying to tell me) and I can't explain it but I love that Tyjae Spears out of Tulane. I think I love his speed, cutting ability on a dime along with his great hands and catching ability. He could be a nightmare passing type RB. Also in this round there is a LB out of Iowa I like a lot, Jack Campbell. TCU also has G- Steve Avila who I also like.
I just started scouting round 5 so the only name I can give you right now is LB - Brenton Cocks Jr. out of Florida.
To be continues. Is that what you are looking for and good enough for now Jackie Poo? I hope so, that's all I have at the moment. :wink:

Okay, now was that so difficult? :wink:

Solid.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#289 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:14 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:For starters, I want Mazi Smith with the first pick if we stand pat with our first pick. Don't know how many times I need to post this. Only two players I would move up to take would be for Bijaan Robinson or Paris Campbell but I hardly doubt we do that unless they fall close to us that moving up wouldn't cost a whole hell of a lot. I'm hearing Jerry has been constantly mater baiting over Robinson so its hard to tell what might happen there.
So round 2 I really like O-line here so I have;
John Michael Schmitz, Center out of Minnesota
Darnell Wright, OL out of Tennessee
Jaelyn Duncan, OL out of Maryland
who I all like should we take this route. I do like a couple WR's in this round but I hope and doubt we take one with the signing Brandon Cooks, Josh Downs, WR from North Carolina and Jalin Hyatt out of Tennessee.
Round 3 there are two RB's I love if we don't move up in round 1 and take Robinson, Zach Charbonnett from UCLA (Finally saw some tape on him and I now see what Mr. B was trying to tell me) and I can't explain it but I love that Tyjae Spears out of Tulane. I think I love his speed, cutting ability on a dime along with his great hands and catching ability. He could be a nightmare passing type RB. Also in this round there is a LB out of Iowa I like a lot, Jack Campbell. TCU also has G- Steve Avila who I also like.
I just started scouting round 5 so the only name I can give you right now is LB - Brenton Cocks Jr. out of Florida.

Darnell Wright is going to be a 1st Round pick. Schmitz might go in the 1st as well.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#290 » by bluejerseyjinx » Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:34 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:For starters, I want Mazi Smith with the first pick if we stand pat with our first pick. Don't know how many times I need to post this. Only two players I would move up to take would be for Bijaan Robinson or Paris Campbell but I hardly doubt we do that unless they fall close to us that moving up wouldn't cost a whole hell of a lot. I'm hearing Jerry has been constantly mater baiting over Robinson so its hard to tell what might happen there.
So round 2 I really like O-line here so I have;
John Michael Schmitz, Center out of Minnesota
Darnell Wright, OL out of Tennessee
Jaelyn Duncan, OL out of Maryland
who I all like should we take this route. I do like a couple WR's in this round but I hope and doubt we take one with the signing Brandon Cooks, Josh Downs, WR from North Carolina and Jalin Hyatt out of Tennessee.
Round 3 there are two RB's I love if we don't move up in round 1 and take Robinson, Zach Charbonnett from UCLA (Finally saw some tape on him and I now see what Mr. B was trying to tell me) and I can't explain it but I love that Tyjae Spears out of Tulane. I think I love his speed, cutting ability on a dime along with his great hands and catching ability. He could be a nightmare passing type RB. Also in this round there is a LB out of Iowa I like a lot, Jack Campbell. TCU also has G- Steve Avila who I also like.
I just started scouting round 5 so the only name I can give you right now is LB - Brenton Cocks Jr. out of Florida.

Darnell Wright is going to be a 1st Round pick. Schmitz might go in the 1st as well.

I'm starting to think we should trade back a bit to gain an extra 2nd round pick. 98% of mock drafts have Mazi going early in round two as low as 36. We can still get Mazi and do some serious damage in round 2. All of most of our needs can be addressed in round 2.
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Post#291 » by Mr B » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:23 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:For starters, I want Mazi Smith with the first pick if we stand pat with our first pick. Don't know how many times I need to post this. Only two players I would move up to take would be for Bijaan Robinson or Paris Campbell but I hardly doubt we do that unless they fall close to us that moving up wouldn't cost a whole hell of a lot. I'm hearing Jerry has been constantly mater baiting over Robinson so its hard to tell what might happen there.
So round 2 I really like O-line here so I have;
John Michael Schmitz, Center out of Minnesota
Darnell Wright, OL out of Tennessee
Jaelyn Duncan, OL out of Maryland
who I all like should we take this route. I do like a couple WR's in this round but I hope and doubt we take one with the signing Brandon Cooks, Josh Downs, WR from North Carolina and Jalin Hyatt out of Tennessee.
Round 3 there are two RB's I love if we don't move up in round 1 and take Robinson, Zach Charbonnett from UCLA (Finally saw some tape on him and I now see what Mr. B was trying to tell me) and I can't explain it but I love that Tyjae Spears out of Tulane. I think I love his speed, cutting ability on a dime along with his great hands and catching ability. He could be a nightmare passing type RB. Also in this round there is a LB out of Iowa I like a lot, Jack Campbell. TCU also has G- Steve Avila who I also like.
I just started scouting round 5 so the only name I can give you right now is LB - Brenton Cocks Jr. out of Florida.

Darnell Wright is going to be a 1st Round pick. Schmitz might go in the 1st as well.

You guys need to check out Darnell Wrights Twitter page. He’s been going ham on his critics the last day or two.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#292 » by Mr B » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:26 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:For starters, I want Mazi Smith with the first pick if we stand pat with our first pick. Don't know how many times I need to post this. Only two players I would move up to take would be for Bijaan Robinson or Paris Campbell but I hardly doubt we do that unless they fall close to us that moving up wouldn't cost a whole hell of a lot. I'm hearing Jerry has been constantly mater baiting over Robinson so its hard to tell what might happen there.
So round 2 I really like O-line here so I have;
John Michael Schmitz, Center out of Minnesota
Darnell Wright, OL out of Tennessee
Jaelyn Duncan, OL out of Maryland
who I all like should we take this route. I do like a couple WR's in this round but I hope and doubt we take one with the signing Brandon Cooks, Josh Downs, WR from North Carolina and Jalin Hyatt out of Tennessee.
Round 3 there are two RB's I love if we don't move up in round 1 and take Robinson, Zach Charbonnett from UCLA (Finally saw some tape on him and I now see what Mr. B was trying to tell me) and I can't explain it but I love that Tyjae Spears out of Tulane. I think I love his speed, cutting ability on a dime along with his great hands and catching ability. He could be a nightmare passing type RB. Also in this round there is a LB out of Iowa I like a lot, Jack Campbell. TCU also has G- Steve Avila who I also like.
I just started scouting round 5 so the only name I can give you right now is LB - Brenton Cocks Jr. out of Florida.

Darnell Wright is going to be a 1st Round pick. Schmitz might go in the 1st as well.

I'm starting to think we should trade back a bit to gain an extra 2nd round pick. 98% of mock drafts have Mazi going early in round two as low as 36. We can still get Mazi and do some serious damage in round 2. All of most of our needs can be addressed in round 2.

I would t hate that move. Trade back a few spots draft Mazi, then with their own 2nd round pick draft Darnell Washington. The extra 3rd could allow them to trade up again into the 2nd and draft Charbonnet.

I’d they traded down and still ended up with Mazi, Washington, and Charbonnet. I’d consider that a win.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#293 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:17 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Darnell Wright is going to be a 1st Round pick. Schmitz might go in the 1st as well.

I'm starting to think we should trade back a bit to gain an extra 2nd round pick. 98% of mock drafts have Mazi going early in round two as low as 36. We can still get Mazi and do some serious damage in round 2. All of most of our needs can be addressed in round 2.

I would t hate that move. Trade back a few spots draft Mazi, then with their own 2nd round pick draft Darnell Washington. The extra 3rd could allow them to trade up again into the 2nd and draft Charbonnet.

I’d they traded down and still ended up with Mazi, Washington, and Charbonnet. I’d consider that a win.

Taking a TE over a O-lineman in round two scares the hell out of me in our current situation.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#294 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:10 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Bijan was a roadblock for him. He would start for most college teams.

A prospect like Bijan only comes around every 5 to 10 years. Yet Roschon still got a good amount of carries. If you watch Texas, you'll realize that Roschon played a bigger role. Despite not getting the recognition. Because he was playing next to a freak.

Keep in mind, I really like Roschon and I would love for the Cowboys to draft him. Like you said he has size, power, speed and he is being underrated. I even said that he would be getting more publicity if it wasn’t for his teammate. He was a backup though and there are a lot of really good backs in this draft. There are good small running backs and there are good big running backs. It’s a deep draft for a position that has very little value right now. That’s why I think he’s going to slip to late in the draft.

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Post#295 » by Mr B » Wed Apr 12, 2023 1:19 am

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Mr B wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Bijan was a roadblock for him. He would start for most college teams.

A prospect like Bijan only comes around every 5 to 10 years. Yet Roschon still got a good amount of carries. If you watch Texas, you'll realize that Roschon played a bigger role. Despite not getting the recognition. Because he was playing next to a freak.

Keep in mind, I really like Roschon and I would love for the Cowboys to draft him. Like you said he has size, power, speed and he is being underrated. I even said that he would be getting more publicity if it wasn’t for his teammate. He was a backup though and there are a lot of really good backs in this draft. There are good small running backs and there are good big running backs. It’s a deep draft for a position that has very little value right now. That’s why I think he’s going to slip to late in the draft.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#296 » by Mr B » Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:43 am

The latest rumors have the Cowboys taking WR Zay Flowers at pick 26. The Cowboys recently had him in for a visit and some are saying he might be the #1 WR What n the draft. This is not who I would want but the rumor is the Cowboys are very interested in him.

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Post#297 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:51 am

Mr B wrote:The latest rumors have the Cowboys taking WR Zay Flowers at pick 26. The Cowboys recently had him in for a visit and some are saying he might be the #1 WR What n the draft. This is not who I would want but the rumor is the Cowboys are very interested in him.

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I love Zay. His play is similar to Brandin Cooks.

He's my #2 WR behind JSN.
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Post#298 » by Otis Driftwood » Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:30 pm

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Mr B wrote:The latest rumors have the Cowboys taking WR Zay Flowers at pick 26. The Cowboys recently had him in for a visit and some are saying he might be the #1 WR What n the draft. This is not who I would want but the rumor is the Cowboys are very interested in him.

I love Zay. His play is similar to Brandin Cooks.

He's my #2 WR behind JSN.


Not how I would go in the 1st round but I can understand the thought process. Having another guy that can stretch the field can never hurt. And with Gallup not exactly stepping up last season after the injury, the logic is reasonable.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#299 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:24 pm

I don't like the idea of drafting a WR because WRs usually take 1-2 years to develop.

CEEDEE LAMB
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2021: 1102 yds, 6 TDs
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Lamb is due for a monster in 23 but it took 3 years of growth to get there. I want someone who is going to make an IMMEDIATE impact. Also I think our need at TE outweighs WR by a lot.

We never planned on drafting Lamb, he kind of fell in our lap unexpectedly. The thing is I do not think there is a CeeDee Lamb in this draft. And it could get to pick 26 without a single WR taken and I am still not sure we should take a WR.
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Post#300 » by Otis Driftwood » Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:43 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:We never planned on drafting Lamb, he kind of fell in our lap unexpectedly.


Which is why I'll wait and see how things shake out. There's always "someone" sitting there that we weren't expecting. And if that someone fits...
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