State of Cowboys Union?

[bluejerseyjinx]

Are you claiming Jerry is smart? LMAO. Jerry hasn't done once in 18 years anything that resembles showing he has any football knowledge when it comes to drafting. Don't you remember a few years ago when he wanted to draft Johnny "the junkie" Manziel? For chemistry purposes alone, I'd prefer we get dak back for another year. But I'm telling ya, Jerry is foaming at the mouth and probably stoking his penis at the same time knowing he has a shot at Wilson or Watson. I can see all in Jerry selling the farm and putting us in a bad spot making a big time trade. Jerry has proven to me the past 4 years that he does not have faith in giving the keys to the car and that he is his guy despite Dak being the perfect role model QB.

I could see Jerry doing that however I don’t see Stephen allowing him to do that, just like when Jerry wanted to draft Manziel. Jerry may still be the face of the franchise but Stephen really is the one that has the power now with the Cowboys.


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Is that how we ended up with Nolan as DC,

[Mr B]

Are you claiming Jerry is smart? LMAO. Jerry hasn't done once in 18 years anything that resembles showing he has any football knowledge when it comes to drafting. Don't you remember a few years ago when he wanted to draft Johnny "the junkie" Manziel? For chemistry purposes alone, I'd prefer we get dak back for another year. But I'm telling ya, Jerry is foaming at the mouth and probably stoking his penis at the same time knowing he has a shot at Wilson or Watson. I can see all in Jerry selling the farm and putting us in a bad spot making a big time trade. Jerry has proven to me the past 4 years that he does not have faith in giving the keys to the car and that he is his guy despite Dak being the perfect role model QB.

I could see Jerry doing that however I don’t see Stephen allowing him to do that, just like when Jerry wanted to draft Manziel. Jerry may still be the face of the franchise but Stephen really is the one that has the power now with the Cowboys.


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Is that how we ended up with Nolan as DC,

Pretty much anything that happens with the team at this point is the direct result of Stephen Jones. Obvious Jerry is still the boss but at this point this is Stephen’s team.

I actually have a funny story that I heard about Stephen Jones years ago. In 1993-94 I was in high school and worked at TJ Maxx here in Dallas. The store manager was this lady I’m going to guess was in her early 30’s. She said she went to School at Arkansas when Stephen did and that she knew him. They ran in the same circle according to her. She said she was shocked when she heard that Stephen’s dad had bought the Cowboys and now Stephen was helping to run the team. She said he was the biggest frat boy coke head in the school, and was a huge douche bag. I always got a kick out of that.


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[bluejerseyjinx]

Cowboys need to restructure Elliott's contract to free up more money. He's not worth 24 million and is not even the best RB on our team.

[Cactus Jack]

Cowboys need to restructure Elliott's contract to free up more money. He's not worth 24 million and is not even the best RB on our team.

$13.7m is his cap hit.

If you restructure, all it does is put more money towards the cap in future years.

[Mr B]

Cowboys need to restructure Elliott's contract to free up more money. He's not worth 24 million and is not even the best RB on our team.

Like Cactus Jack said, by doing that you are only pushing that money back to other seasons. Zeke is not the same guy he was coming out of Ohio St but that doesn’t mean he sucks. He’s still a very effective RB, especially when paired with Pollard. Zeke is your power back, he’s the guy that moves the chains and works in short yardage and goal line situations. Zeke is still very effective in those situations. Based on his contract he’s going to be hear until after the 2022 season. After that they can cut him with minimal cap hit.


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[bluejerseyjinx]

Cowboys need to restructure Elliott's contract to free up more money. He's not worth 24 million and is not even the best RB on our team.

Like Cactus Jack said, by doing that you are only pushing that money back to other seasons. Zeke is not the same guy he was coming out of Ohio St but that doesn’t mean he sucks. He’s still a very effective RB, especially when paired with Pollard. Zeke is your power back, he’s the guy that moves the chains and works in short yardage and goal line situations. Zeke is still very effective in those situations. Based on his contract he’s going to be hear until after the 2022 season. After that they can cut him with minimal cap hit.


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Like you said in an earlier post, its most likely we are done with Elliott after this upcoming season anyway, so what does it matter? I don't think Elliot is effective at all especially now when we don't a top 3 O-line like we did 3 or 4 years ago. I can give you the fact Elliot is effective as a power back running the ball when everything is right, but horribly effective in all other phases an RB needs to be today. In the passing game is were he sucks. Doesn't have good hands, drops a third of targets to him and has become a turnover machine when he does get the ball in the passing game. Pollard did a much better job last season with all the back ups in there then Elliot did with our starters before they all went down. We made a mistake drafting Elliot and signing him to that contract two years ago. I hate to disagree with you about anything Mr. B., but that's how I feel about this particular situation.

[Cactus Jack]

Cowboys need to restructure Elliott's contract to free up more money. He's not worth 24 million and is not even the best RB on our team.

Lie you said in an earlier post, its most likely we are done with Elliott after this upcoming season anyway, so what does it matter? I don't think Elliot is effective at all especially now when we don't a top 3 O-line like we did 3 or 4 years ago. I can give you the fact Elliot is effective as a power back running the ball when everything is right, but horribly effective in all other phases an RB needs to be today. In the passing game is were he sucks. Doesn't have good hands, drops a third of targets to him and has become a turnover machine when he does get the ball in the passing game. Pollard did a much better job last season with all the back ups in there then Elliot did with our starters before they all went down. We made a mistake drafting Elliot and signing him to that contract two years ago. I hate to disagree with you about anything Mr. B., but that's how I feel about this particular situation.

I know you hate the guy, but he should bounce back assuming the line is somewhat healthy this year.

His cap number is manageable after 2023. Which means he'll be a Cowboy for at least the next two years at minimum.

If you release him now, he counts $36.9m against the cap (over two years).

If you we're to release him next year, he'd count $23m against the cap.

If you restructure him, all it does is push that money owed to him down the line. Meaning, you'll have more money tied to him & less cap space after he's gone.

So, you might as well just ride things out.


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[bluejerseyjinx]

I liked you better when you were not a Mod.

[Cactus Jack]

I liked you better when you were not a Mod.

Liar!

[bluejerseyjinx]

Cowboys need to restructure Elliott's contract to free up more money. He's not worth 24 million and is not even the best RB on our team.

Lie you said in an earlier post, its most likely we are done with Elliott after this upcoming season anyway, so what does it matter? I don't think Elliot is effective at all especially now when we don't a top 3 O-line like we did 3 or 4 years ago. I can give you the fact Elliot is effective as a power back running the ball when everything is right, but horribly effective in all other phases an RB needs to be today. In the passing game is were he sucks. Doesn't have good hands, drops a third of targets to him and has become a turnover machine when he does get the ball in the passing game. Pollard did a much better job last season with all the back ups in there then Elliot did with our starters before they all went down. We made a mistake drafting Elliot and signing him to that contract two years ago. I hate to disagree with you about anything Mr. B., but that's how I feel about this particular situation.

I know you hate the guy, but he should bounce back assuming the line is somewhat healthy this year.

His cap number is manageable after 2023. Which means he'll be a Cowboy for at least the next two years at minimum.

If you release him now, he counts $36.9m against the cap (over two years).

If you we're to release him next year, he'd count $23m against the cap.

If you restructure him, all it does is push that money owed to him down the line. Meaning, you'll have more money tied to him & less cap space after he's gone.

So, you might as well just ride things out.


https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/ezekiel-elliott-18952/

Well that sucks donkey balls. I guess we are stuck with with this junkie - assed party animal punk. All that money for an incomplete RB.

[Cactus Jack]

Well that sucks donkey balls. I guess we are stuck with with this junkie - assed party animal punk. All that money for an incomplete RB.

He wasn't great last season. But he also didn't have a line to run behind either.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Well that sucks donkey balls. I guess we are stuck with with this junkie - assed party animal punk. All that money for an incomplete RB.

He wasn't great last season. But he also didn't have a line to run behind either.

Neither did Pollard and he was way more effective. Faster and a much better receiving RB.

[Mr B]

Cowboys need to restructure Elliott's contract to free up more money. He's not worth 24 million and is not even the best RB on our team.

Lie you said in an earlier post, its most likely we are done with Elliott after this upcoming season anyway, so what does it matter? I don't think Elliot is effective at all especially now when we don't a top 3 O-line like we did 3 or 4 years ago. I can give you the fact Elliot is effective as a power back running the ball when everything is right, but horribly effective in all other phases an RB needs to be today. In the passing game is were he sucks. Doesn't have good hands, drops a third of targets to him and has become a turnover machine when he does get the ball in the passing game. Pollard did a much better job last season with all the back ups in there then Elliot did with our starters before they all went down. We made a mistake drafting Elliot and signing him to that contract two years ago. I hate to disagree with you about anything Mr. B., but that's how I feel about this particular situation.

I know you hate the guy, but he should bounce back assuming the line is somewhat healthy this year.

His cap number is manageable after 2023. Which means he'll be a Cowboy for at least the next two years at minimum.

If you release him now, he counts $36.9m against the cap (over two years).

If you we're to release him next year, he'd count $23m against the cap.

If you restructure him, all it does is push that money owed to him down the line. Meaning, you'll have more money tied to him & less cap space after he's gone.

So, you might as well just ride things out.


https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/ezekiel-elliott-18952/

Well that sucks donkey balls. I guess we are stuck with with this junkie - assed party animal punk. All that money for an incomplete RB.

Exactly the way you’re describing Zeke is why you should not want LB Micah Parsons in the draft. I don’t believe the Cowboys will draft a LB, at least not within the first 3 rounds but if they did, trust me you don’t want it to be Parsons. He has the same rep coming out of college that Zeke did. He likes to party.


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[Mr B]

Well that sucks donkey balls. I guess we are stuck with with this junkie - assed party animal punk. All that money for an incomplete RB.

He wasn't great last season. But he also didn't have a line to run behind either.

They should have everyone back except Looney. Biadasz will be back as the starting center and Collins, Martin, and Tyron will all be back from injury. The line is going to look night and day different than it did last year.


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[Mr B]

Well that sucks donkey balls. I guess we are stuck with with this junkie - assed party animal punk. All that money for an incomplete RB.

He wasn't great last season. But he also didn't have a line to run behind either.

Neither did Pollard and he was way more effective. Faster and a much better receiving RB.

Pollard is the 3rd down back. He has a lot of his success because Zeke is in there punishing the defense on 1st and 2nd downs.


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[bluejerseyjinx]

Well that sucks donkey balls. I guess we are stuck with with this junkie - assed party animal punk. All that money for an incomplete RB.

He wasn't great last season. But he also didn't have a line to run behind either.

They should have everyone back except Looney. Biadasz will be back as the starting center and Collins, Martin, and Tyron will all be back from injury. The line is going to look night and day different than it did last year.


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But if one of them or more get injured or go down like last year we will be in the same boat. Don't trust T. Smith staying healthy. Another O-lineman or two in the draft would not hurt at all. At least get a little depth.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I know you hate the guy, but he should bounce back assuming the line is somewhat healthy this year.

His cap number is manageable after 2023. Which means he'll be a Cowboy for at least the next two years at minimum.

If you release him now, he counts $36.9m against the cap (over two years).

If you we're to release him next year, he'd count $23m against the cap.

If you restructure him, all it does is push that money owed to him down the line. Meaning, you'll have more money tied to him & less cap space after he's gone.

So, you might as well just ride things out.


https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/ezekiel-elliott-18952/

Well that sucks donkey balls. I guess we are stuck with with this junkie - assed party animal punk. All that money for an incomplete RB.

Exactly the way you’re describing Zeke is why you should not want LB Micah Parsons in the draft. I don’t believe the Cowboys will draft a LB, at least not within the first 3 rounds but if they did, trust me you don’t want it to be Parsons. He has the same rep coming out of college that Zeke did. He likes to party.


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I never mentioned Parsons as the LB I would want to take. But based on what said about parsons makes me want to take a OL even more now.

[Mr B]

He wasn't great last season. But he also didn't have a line to run behind either.

They should have everyone back except Looney. Biadasz will be back as the starting center and Collins, Martin, and Tyron will all be back from injury. The line is going to look night and day different than it did last year.


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But if one of them or more get injured or go down like last year we will be in the same boat. Don't trust T. Smith staying healthy. Another O-lineman or two in the draft would not hurt at all. At least get a little depth.

Yea but you can say that about every team in the NFL. If any teams loses 4 of their starting OL like the Cowboys did last year they are in trouble. I doubt we have that many injuries on the OL again. Tyron is likely to get injured again though based on his recent health history. Towards the end of last season though Knight was actually playing pretty well. I do expect they will draft an OL or two.


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[Mr B]

If this is true this would be a great signing for the Cowboys. Now he’s still more of a 3-tech DT but he’s far better than anyone on the roster.

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[Cactus Jack]

If this is true this would be a great signing for the Cowboys. Now he’s still more of a 3-tech DT but he’s far better than anyone on the roster.

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"Star" is a stretch lol.

He's a good interior lineman. Solid 3-tech, like you mention. I wouldn't be shocked if he landed in Dallas due to Quinn.

The Hawks let him go because his cap hit ($13m) was too high & he refused to take a pay cut. If the Cowboys can get him at half that price, he'd be a solid addition.