2016 Draft - Never too early

[HMFFL]

Alabama's Derrick Henry, graded a second-rounder by NFL draft advisory board, wants to play for Cowboys

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2016/01/15/alabamas-derrick-henry-graded-second-rounder-nfl-draft-advisory-board-wants-play-cowboys

[Mr B]

Derrick Henry reminds me of Brandon Jacobs. I wouldn't mind the Cowboys drafting him but not with their 2nd round pick. A guy I would be interested in is Kelvin Taylor from Florida. He's Fred Taylor's son and should be there in the 3rd or 4th round. He's not quite as big as his dad definitely has some serious skill.

[Otis Driftwood]

Alabama's Derrick Henry, graded a second-rounder by NFL draft advisory board, wants to play for Cowboys

http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2016/01/15/alabamas-derrick-henry-graded-second-rounder-nfl-draft-advisory-board-wants-play-cowboys

My only worry about Henry - he's an Alabama RB. They don't exactly have the most sterling reputations coming into the NFL. Richardson... Ingram... even Lacy. Hard to trust those guys. I'm not saying I would rule him out. That early in the 2nd though... scares me.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I don't know how much you ever watch the Cowboys website/app or how much you pay attention to Rick Gosslin from the DMN but over the last 20 years or so he's been pretty respected when it comes to predicting the draft. He was on the website the other day with Brian Brodus and they seemed to really be hyping up Paxton Lynch.

Gosslin didn't say that the Cowboys will take Lynch at #4 but in his opinion both Goff and Lynch are worthy of the 4th pick. Lynch compares to Rothlisburger. Big guy with a cannon arm from a small school. He also compared him to Bortles. In a re-draft would with of those guys be worth the 4th pick in this draft?

I've seen every game the past 20 years and I believe I've seen all but 7 games since 1970. My family, friends and relatives wish I would pay more attention to them at times than the Cowboys. Funny. You said "pretty respected". I guess that's why we haven't done much and been mediocre during this span. I guess we just plain and simple see things different and want to take this team in separate directions. I've seen enough now the past 20 years to make my long, 4 year bitching for a defense, now more credible. SERIOUSLY, please tell me who the hell on defense we really have and can count, on besides Sean Lee for 6-8 games a year when he is healthy. Currently, a lot of band aides with 3 other players with possible good upsides.

Gosslin is pretty respected. He's not a scout for the Cowboys so they don't always takes the player he thinks is the best. So you're right, maybe that's why they haven't done much and been mediocre during this span.

As for the defense I agreed with you before that they must put more in to it. They can't completely ignore the future at the QB position either. After Romo is gone (likely after 2 years) what do you suggest the Cowboys do? What would your plan be for life after Romo?

And as for who they can count on, on defense... I'm not certain I would put Sean Lee in that category. He's all heart but his body is failing him. They can count on Hitchens, Byron Jones, and Lawrence. After that it's a bit sketchy. Scandrick will come back healthy, Gregory shows promise, and Crawford is solid (not spectacular).

Well thank you. You have just supported what I have been saying all along. So you have now convinced me who we should take with our number 1 pick - Myles Jack, LB - UCLA. Round 2, if he is there, I want Andrew Billing, DT - Baylor.

[Mr B]

I've seen every game the past 20 years and I believe I've seen all but 7 games since 1970. My family, friends and relatives wish I would pay more attention to them at times than the Cowboys. Funny. You said "pretty respected". I guess that's why we haven't done much and been mediocre during this span. I guess we just plain and simple see things different and want to take this team in separate directions. I've seen enough now the past 20 years to make my long, 4 year bitching for a defense, now more credible. SERIOUSLY, please tell me who the hell on defense we really have and can count, on besides Sean Lee for 6-8 games a year when he is healthy. Currently, a lot of band aides with 3 other players with possible good upsides.

Gosslin is pretty respected. He's not a scout for the Cowboys so they don't always takes the player he thinks is the best. So you're right, maybe that's why they haven't done much and been mediocre during this span.

As for the defense I agreed with you before that they must put more in to it. They can't completely ignore the future at the QB position either. After Romo is gone (likely after 2 years) what do you suggest the Cowboys do? What would your plan be for life after Romo?

And as for who they can count on, on defense... I'm not certain I would put Sean Lee in that category. He's all heart but his body is failing him. They can count on Hitchens, Byron Jones, and Lawrence. After that it's a bit sketchy. Scandrick will come back healthy, Gregory shows promise, and Crawford is solid (not spectacular).

Well thank you. You have just supported what I have been saying all along. So you have now convinced me who we should take with our number 1 pick - Myles Jack, LB - UCLA. Round 2, if he is there, I want Andrew Billing, DT - Baylor.

You didn't answer the question about the future of the QB position? I guess you're ok with more guys like Kellen Moore and Matt Cassell.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I don't know how much you ever watch the Cowboys website/app or how much you pay attention to Rick Gosslin from the DMN but over the last 20 years or so he's been pretty respected when it comes to predicting the draft. He was on the website the other day with Brian Brodus and they seemed to really be hyping up Paxton Lynch.

Gosslin didn't say that the Cowboys will take Lynch at #4 but in his opinion both Goff and Lynch are worthy of the 4th pick. Lynch compares to Rothlisburger. Big guy with a cannon arm from a small school. He also compared him to Bortles. In a re-draft would with of those guys be worth the 4th pick in this draft?

I've seen every game the past 20 years and I believe I've seen all but 7 games since 1970. My family, friends and relatives wish I would pay more attention to them at times than the Cowboys. Funny. You said "pretty respected". I guess that's why we haven't done much and been mediocre during this span. I guess we just plain and simple see things different and want to take this team in separate directions. I've seen enough now the past 20 years to make my long, 4 year bitching for a defense, now more credible. SERIOUSLY, please tell me who the hell on defense we really have and can count, on besides Sean Lee for 6-8 games a year when he is healthy. Currently, a lot of band aides with 3 other players with possible good upsides.

Gosslin is pretty respected. He's not a scout for the Cowboys so they don't always takes the player he thinks is the best. So you're right, maybe that's why they haven't done much and been mediocre during this span.

As for the defense I agreed with you before that they must put more in to it. They can't completely ignore the future at the QB position either. After Romo is gone (likely after 2 years) what do you suggest the Cowboys do? What would your plan be for life after Romo?

And as for who they can count on, on defense... I'm not certain I would put Sean Lee in that category. He's all heart but his body is failing him. They can count on Hitchens, Byron Jones, and Lawrence. After that it's a bit sketchy. Scandrick will come back healthy, Gregory shows promise, and Crawford is solid (not spectacular).

What would I do? Well, there are many variables here. Our current status, Jerry, ah hell, I'll give it a shot. I would continue with my line of thinking. Myles Jack LB with our #1 and hopefully a DT named Billings from Baylor. After that, I'm open to another CB like most all of Cowboy Nation. Still would love to have another LB or DT though. Even a top notch OL, that currently being rumored isn't so much of a bad idea as well, if there is another stud there at #3. What a better way to help protect Romo for his remaining 3 years with another all pro moose up front for protection. If a QB in later rounds for a back up to Romo is something to address after that, I believe I mentioned to some of you I really love the QB from Washington State. He would be a perfect project for a couple years.
On the free agent scene, I keep McFadden and Dunbar for another year, take a good hard look at possibly bring in Lamar Miller from Miami, trade or get rid of Terrence Williams and bring in Jefferies on a 2-3 year friendly contract. There will be more to come, but so far, this is where I am currently at.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Gosslin is pretty respected. He's not a scout for the Cowboys so they don't always takes the player he thinks is the best. So you're right, maybe that's why they haven't done much and been mediocre during this span.

As for the defense I agreed with you before that they must put more in to it. They can't completely ignore the future at the QB position either. After Romo is gone (likely after 2 years) what do you suggest the Cowboys do? What would your plan be for life after Romo?

And as for who they can count on, on defense... I'm not certain I would put Sean Lee in that category. He's all heart but his body is failing him. They can count on Hitchens, Byron Jones, and Lawrence. After that it's a bit sketchy. Scandrick will come back healthy, Gregory shows promise, and Crawford is solid (not spectacular).

Well thank you. You have just supported what I have been saying all along. So you have now convinced me who we should take with our number 1 pick - Myles Jack, LB - UCLA. Round 2, if he is there, I want Andrew Billing, DT - Baylor.

You didn't answer the question about the future of the QB position? I guess you're ok with more guys like Kellen Moore and Matt Cassell.

Give me a second. I got carried away answering the other part of the question, lol.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Gosslin is pretty respected. He's not a scout for the Cowboys so they don't always takes the player he thinks is the best. So you're right, maybe that's why they haven't done much and been mediocre during this span.

As for the defense I agreed with you before that they must put more in to it. They can't completely ignore the future at the QB position either. After Romo is gone (likely after 2 years) what do you suggest the Cowboys do? What would your plan be for life after Romo?

And as for who they can count on, on defense... I'm not certain I would put Sean Lee in that category. He's all heart but his body is failing him. They can count on Hitchens, Byron Jones, and Lawrence. After that it's a bit sketchy. Scandrick will come back healthy, Gregory shows promise, and Crawford is solid (not spectacular).

Well thank you. You have just supported what I have been saying all along. So you have now convinced me who we should take with our number 1 pick - Myles Jack, LB - UCLA. Round 2, if he is there, I want Andrew Billing, DT - Baylor.

You didn't answer the question about the future of the QB position? I guess you're ok with more guys like Kellen Moore and Matt Cassell.

No, not really. Personally I let both Cassell and Terrance go. When your talking the future, again we are dealing with Jerry. After all, it was Parcells and Peyton that brought in Romo. Jerry gave us Quincy Carter and all the other crap that set us back years. I believe I mention the Washington State QB a while back if he is available in later rounds after defense is addressed. QB is not on my radar this year. Rather draft another OT in late rounds and take a chance we get the right free agents and health is not a factor next year.

[Mr B]

Well thank you. You have just supported what I have been saying all along. So you have now convinced me who we should take with our number 1 pick - Myles Jack, LB - UCLA. Round 2, if he is there, I want Andrew Billing, DT - Baylor.

You didn't answer the question about the future of the QB position? I guess you're ok with more guys like Kellen Moore and Matt Cassell.

No, not really. Personally I let both Cassell and Terrance go. When your talking the future, again we are dealing with Jerry. After all, it was Parcells and Peyton that brought in Romo. Jerry gave us Quincy Carter and all the other crap that set us back years. I believe I mention the Washington State QB a while back if he is available in later rounds after defense is addressed. QB is not on my radar this year. Rather draft another OT in late rounds and take a chance we get the right free agents and health is not a factor next year.

We are also talking about Will McClay and Stephen Jones. Jerry wouldn't be picking another Quincy Carter or Stephen McGhee. McClay has proven that he knows what he's doing when it comes to the draft and would not make the same mistake of drafting a bum like those guys. Also remember what I was saying that you have a better chance on hitting on a QB the higher he's drafted. McGhee was a 3rd round pick and Jerry reached for Carter in the 2nd when he had a 4th round grade.

[bluejerseyjinx]

No, because Jerry still wants Manziel and would if he had his way. I'd rather have RG knee.

[Otis Driftwood]

Gosslin is pretty respected. He's not a scout for the Cowboys so they don't always takes the player he thinks is the best. So you're right, maybe that's why they haven't done much and been mediocre during this span...

Gosselin is my favorite. The man absolutely knows the in's and out's of the NFL. I respect his knowledge of the entire league way more than I do people like Schefter, Rapaport, and their ilk. I've been reading his work for over 20 years now and trust his judgement simple because he does his homework, asks the right people the right questions, and has the trust of pretty much everyone in the league.

So - I'm sure you read his most recent article (January 6) about drafting a QB with the #4 pick. I'm going to post a separate thread with that one. Should make for a good discussion.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Gosslin is pretty respected. He's not a scout for the Cowboys so they don't always takes the player he thinks is the best. So you're right, maybe that's why they haven't done much and been mediocre during this span.

As for the defense I agreed with you before that they must put more in to it. They can't completely ignore the future at the QB position either. After Romo is gone (likely after 2 years) what do you suggest the Cowboys do? What would your plan be for life after Romo?

And as for who they can count on, on defense... I'm not certain I would put Sean Lee in that category. He's all heart but his body is failing him. They can count on Hitchens, Byron Jones, and Lawrence. After that it's a bit sketchy. Scandrick will come back healthy, Gregory shows promise, and Crawford is solid (not spectacular).

Well thank you. You have just supported what I have been saying all along. So you have now convinced me who we should take with our number 1 pick - Myles Jack, LB - UCLA. Round 2, if he is there, I want Andrew Billing, DT - Baylor.

You didn't answer the question about the future of the QB position? I guess you're ok with more guys like Kellen Moore and Matt Cassell.

I would take a look to see what it would take to bring in A.J. McCarron from the Bengals.

[Mr B]

Well thank you. You have just supported what I have been saying all along. So you have now convinced me who we should take with our number 1 pick - Myles Jack, LB - UCLA. Round 2, if he is there, I want Andrew Billing, DT - Baylor.

You didn't answer the question about the future of the QB position? I guess you're ok with more guys like Kellen Moore and Matt Cassell.

I would take a look to see what it would take to bring in A.J. McCarron from the Bengals.

I don't think McCarron is a free agent. They've traded away enough of their draft picks. I would say that McCarron has to have at least two more years on his rookie contract.

[bluejerseyjinx]

We could get A.J. in a trade and another #1 pick, giving us 2 first rounders if we sweetened the deal.

[Mr B]

We could get A.J. in a trade and another #1 pick, giving us 2 first rounders if we sweetened the deal.

How would they do that?

[Otis Driftwood]

We could get A.J. in a trade and another #1 pick, giving us 2 first rounders if we sweetened the deal.

Why would the Bengals do that?

[bluejerseyjinx]

We could get A.J. in a trade and another #1 pick, giving us 2 first rounders if we sweetened the deal.

How would they do that?

Sweeten the pot by throwing our last cancer, Dez Bryant. That's how.

[bluejerseyjinx]

We could get A.J. in a trade and another #1 pick, giving us 2 first rounders if we sweetened the deal.

Why would the Bengals do that?

Because Andy Dalton will be back next year and there is no if, and or buts about him not being the Starter for the Bengals for years to come. Cincinnati is probably the most balance team in the NFL missing just a couple pieces. I would think because they are so close, Dez would be an attractive offer for them with A.J. Green on the other side with Eifert, Hill and Bernard. I can see us with our future QB and most definitely, a great back up till then. I bet we could get a lot for dez.

[Mr B]

We could get A.J. in a trade and another #1 pick, giving us 2 first rounders if we sweetened the deal.

Why would the Bengals do that?

Because Andy Dalton will be back next year and there is no if, and or buts about him not being the Starter for the Bengals for years to come. Cincinnati is probably the most balance team in the NFL missing just a couple pieces. I would think because they are so close, Dez would be an attractive offer for them with A.J. Green on the other side with Eifert, Hill and Bernard. I can see us with our future QB and most definitely, a great back up till then. I bet we could get a lot for dez.

I think I will take a pass on that scenario.

[Otis Driftwood]

We could get A.J. in a trade and another #1 pick, giving us 2 first rounders if we sweetened the deal.

Why would the Bengals do that?

Because Andy Dalton will be back next year and there is no if, and or buts about him not being the Starter for the Bengals for years to come. Cincinnati is probably the most balance team in the NFL missing just a couple pieces. I would think because they are so close, Dez would be an attractive offer for them with A.J. Green on the other side with Eifert, Hill and Bernard. I can see us with our future QB and most definitely, a great back up till then. I bet we could get a lot for dez.

That's actually an "All In" scenario worth considering. There's only one problem with it and it's a significant one. As much as we bag on Jerry and his GM skills... there is someone worse out there.

Say Hi to Mike Brown... the cheapest guy in the business now that Michael Bidwell is calling the shots in Arizona and his dad is sipping dinner at the nursing home. If there was anyone in the business too cheap to even consider a deal like this one - it's him.