2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys

Micah Prescott · Post #61 » by **Micah Prescott** » Wed Feb 8, 2023 3:43 pm

We traded a 1st for Amari but that wasn't really a push. Rams traded 2 firsts for Ramsey and 2 firsts for Stafford. They mortgaged their future and probably won't win anything for a while BUT they got a ring out of it.

IMO we need to make a push like that too right now because now is the time. It's do or die for McCarthy and we can make it a do or die for Dak as well. This defense won't hold together forever. Big contracts are coming.

Time to:
-Backload existing contracts
-Acquire big names that will make an immediate impact, either by trading picks or signing big FAs with backloaded contracts
-Draft physical specimens that don't need developmental years (Bresee)

Then if the 2023 season fails we hit the reset button. Trade away Dak for picks (like Detroit did with Stafford) and hire a new coaching staff.

Post #62 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:14 am

Micah Prescott wrote:Also currently most mocks have Bresee slightly out of our reach. But the draft is a long time from now and players stock is going to fluctuate a ton from now until then. Especially after the combine. There are some 3rd round prospects that will jump up to 1st round from now until then after an elite combine showing.

Maybe Bresee's stock will fall right in place for us. Maybe he'll gain value and this is a pipe dream. But his size and skill set are the missing piece to the puzzle for this defense.

Bresee is far from a sure thing. He's dealt with injuries. Taking him in the first round comes with risk. That's why his stock has fallen.

Mr B · Post #63 » by **Mr B** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:20 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Also currently most mocks have Bresee slightly out of our reach. But the draft is a long time from now and players stock is going to fluctuate a ton from now until then. Especially after the combine. There are some 3rd round prospects that will jump up to 1st round from now until then after an elite combine showing.

Maybe Bresee's stock will fall right in place for us. Maybe he'll gain value and this is a pipe dream. But his size and skill set are the missing piece to the puzzle for this defense.

Bresee is far from a sure thing. He's dealt with injuries. Taking him in the first round comes with risk. That's why his stock has fallen.

That’s all stuff that should come out at the Combine. We will know all their flaws by then. There are always a couple guys talked about early that fall because of something that came out at the Combine. There are also always a couple of QB’s that shoot up the board.

Mr B · Post #64 » by **Mr B** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:20 am

Would you trade a 1st for Jalen Ramsey?

Post #65 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:27 am

Mr B wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:Also currently most mocks have Bresee slightly out of our reach. But the draft is a long time from now and players stock is going to fluctuate a ton from now until then. Especially after the combine. There are some 3rd round prospects that will jump up to 1st round from now until then after an elite combine showing.

Maybe Bresee's stock will fall right in place for us. Maybe he'll gain value and this is a pipe dream. But his size and skill set are the missing piece to the puzzle for this defense.

Bresee is far from a sure thing. He's dealt with injuries. Taking him in the first round comes with risk. That's why his stock has fallen.

That’s all stuff that should come out at the Combine. We will know all their flaws by then. There are always a couple guys talked about early that fall because of something that came out at the Combine. There are also always a couple of QB’s that shoot up the board.

Bresee had an acl injury & didn't look the same when he came back the following year. He's definitely a gamble.

Post #66 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:28 am

Mr B wrote:Would you trade a 1st for Jalen Ramsey?

Nope.

Micah Prescott · Post #67 » by **Micah Prescott** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:20 pm

Mr B wrote:Would you trade a 1st for Jalen Ramsey?

2 years ago yes. Right now no.

CB has the same age decline as RB. Once you lose a step you're done. There are exceptions but they typically don't do well in their 30s.

I would trade a 1st for an elite DT or WR (again). I think those two positions are our biggest holes.

Micah Prescott · Post #68 » by **Micah Prescott** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:39 pm

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-profile-bryan-bresee-clemson

PFF's break down of Bresee

They have him pegged as more of a pass rusher and less of a run stuffer. Maybe he isn't quite the fit I thought he was.

Post #69 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:15 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-profile-bryan-bresee-clemson

PFF's break down of Bresee

They have him pegged as more of a pass rusher and less of a run stuffer. Maybe he isn't quite the fit I thought he was.

I'd honestly rather have Calijah Kancey. Best pass rushing IDL in the whole class. He's a first round talent.

Siaki Ika, Mazi Smith & Keaanu Benton are the top NT's.

Bresee is a 4i/3T. He's not big enough to play NT on every down. His grade against the run isn't that great either.

Micah Prescott · Post #70 » by **Micah Prescott** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:15 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-profile-bryan-bresee-clemson

PFF's break down of Bresee

They have him pegged as more of a pass rusher and less of a run stuffer. Maybe he isn't quite the fit I thought he was.

I'd honestly rather have Calijah Kancey. Best pass rushing IDL in the whole class. He's a first round talent.

Siaki Ika, Mazi Smith & Keaanu Benton are the top NT's.

Bresee is a 4i/3T. He's not big enough to play NT on every down. His grade against the run isn't that great either.

Yeah, I am changing my thoughts on Bresee now that I've had a chance to study up.

I like the idea of Siaki Ika or Mazi Smith in the 2nd round.

I don't think Dallas needs anyone at DT who is great pass rusher, just someone who can stop the run and clog the holes.

Mr B · Post #71 » by **Mr B** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:39 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-profile-bryan-bresee-clemson

PFF's break down of Bresee

They have him pegged as more of a pass rusher and less of a run stuffer. Maybe he isn't quite the fit I thought he was.

I'd honestly rather have Calijah Kancey. Best pass rushing IDL in the whole class. He's a first round talent.

Siaki Ika, Mazi Smith & Keaanu Benton are the top NT's.

Bresee is a 4i/3T. He's not big enough to play NT on every down. His grade against the run isn't that great either.

My preference would still be Siaki Ika.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #72 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:51 pm

Mr B wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-profile-bryan-bresee-clemson

PFF's break down of Bresee

They have him pegged as more of a pass rusher and less of a run stuffer. Maybe he isn't quite the fit I thought he was.

I'd honestly rather have Calijah Kancey. Best pass rushing IDL in the whole class. He's a first round talent.

Siaki Ika, Mazi Smith & Keaanu Benton are the top NT's.

Bresee is a 4i/3T. He's not big enough to play NT on every down. His grade against the run isn't that great either.

My preference would still be Siaki Ika.

I'm not confident either one of them will be there when we pick in round 2. Both players are expected to go early in the second round.

Mr B · Post #73 » by **Mr B** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:05 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:I'd honestly rather have Calijah Kancey. Best pass rushing IDL in the whole class. He's a first round talent.

Siaki Ika, Mazi Smith & Keaanu Benton are the top NT's.

Bresee is a 4i/3T. He's not big enough to play NT on every down. His grade against the run isn't that great either.

My preference would still be Siaki Ika.

I'm not confident either one of them will be there when we pick in round 2. Both players are expected to go early in the second round.

Both are being projected to get drafted around our #26 pick. If they want one of those two guys they’re going to have to take them in the 1st round.

Post #74 » by **Cactus Jack** » Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:06 pm

Mr B wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:My preference would still be Siaki Ika.

I'm not confident either one of them will be there when we pick in round 2. Both players are expected to go early in the second round.

Both are being projected to get drafted around our #26 pick. If they want one of those two guys they’re going to have to take them in the 1st round.

Either that or trade back into early round 2. Both will certainly be gone when the Cowboys pick again.

Mr B · Post #75 » by **Mr B** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:17 am

Ok here’s my list of RB’s outside of Bijan. These RB’s are guys that are projected to go between rounds 2-4.

Zach Charbonnet (6’1” 220 lbs)
Jahmyr Gibbs (5’11” 200 lbs)
Tank Bigsby (6’0” 215 lbs)
Kendre Miller (6’0” 220 lbs)

Any of these guys would be a great compliment to Tony Pollard. All also have the ability to develop into an RB1.

Micah Prescott · Post #76 » by **Micah Prescott** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:35 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Mr B wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:I'm not confident either one of them will be there when we pick in round 2. Both players are expected to go early in the second round.

Both are being projected to get drafted around our #26 pick. If they want one of those two guys they’re going to have to take them in the 1st round.

Either that or trade back into early round 2. Both will certainly be gone when the Cowboys pick again.

Too early to say.

Mocks this early are always WAY off.

Post #77 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:10 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:

Read on Twitter

Which is funny because Dak was my player comp for Stroud lol.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #78 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:57 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:

Read on Twitter

Which is funny because Dak was my player comp for Stroud lol.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #79 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:19 pm

If I'm the Cowboys GM, I'm taking LB, DT or OT with my first pick. I've had time to narrow it down with some homework and a bit of research. IMHO that would be best for the team moving forward.

Post #80 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:00 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:If I'm the Cowboys GM, I taking LB, DT or OT with my first pick. I've had time to narrow it down with some homework and a bit of research. IMHO that would be best for the team moving forward.

Sounds like a bad strategy. Not taking the BPA usually backfires.

I guess it's a good thing Jerry doesn't listen to fans. :wink: