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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#81 » by Mr B » Sat Feb 4, 2023 6:09 pm

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Mr B wrote:Considering the Cowboys need to add another weapon to the offense should they consider trading their 1st for Tee Higgins? He’s be BY FAR better than any WR in this draft and he and CeeDee would probably be the best WR duo in the league.

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Love Tee Higgins. Love to have him. Only problem is we have Dak throwing to him. Why give up all that draft capital to get a really nice WR like Higgins when you have Prescott and McCarthy coming back.

I think having Dak is the reason you need excellent WR’s and RB’s and TE’s. Dak is not Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Mahomes where he’s going to elevate the level of play of his skill players. Because of Dak’s shortcomings they need elite players at every other position to elevate his play.

The fact is Dak isn’t going anywhere. He’s the guy the Jones have hitched their wagon to. So if this team wants any kind of chance at winning they HAVE to get better at the skill positions. It’s a crappy way to build a team but it’s the unfortunate situation we as fans find ourself in.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#82 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Feb 4, 2023 6:28 pm

Mr B wrote:Considering the Cowboys need to add another weapon to the offense should they consider trading their 1st for Tee Higgins? He’s be BY FAR better than any WR in this draft and he and CeeDee would probably be the best WR duo in the league.

I wouldn't give up a 1st for Higgins. If you need/want a WR just draft one.

Lamb will be paid in a year or two. So it doesn't make a ton of sense to pay another WR big money. When you can draft someone like Zay Flowers or Jaxon Smith-Njigba instead.

Njigba is my WR1. I doubt he would fall to 26. But you never know, crazier **** has happened.

Zay Flowers is going to be a really good slot receiver. Has some Deebo Samuel to his game. A dynamic playmaker.

Jalin Hyatt is a track star. Best deep threat in this draft. Another option for the Cowboys.

Jordan Addison.

So many solid options.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#83 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Feb 4, 2023 8:55 pm

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Solari & Schotty back together! Lmao

I'll be honest, Brian Schottenheimer is not a great hire.

I know McCarthy will likely be calling plays. But Schotty, like his dad, is very old school. Runs a very simplified offense. Which could benefit Dak. But don't expect a ton of creativity. Going from Kellen Moore to Schottenheimer is a downgrade in that area. Real talk.

As someone who had him as an OC for 3 years, I'm really not a fan of this hire.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#84 » by Mr B » Sun Feb 5, 2023 1:00 am

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Solari & Schotty back together! Lmao

I'll be honest, Brian Schottenheimer is not a great hire.

I know McCarthy will likely be calling plays. But Schotty, like his dad, is very old school. Runs a very simplified offense. Which could benefit Dak. But don't expect a ton of creativity. Going from Kellen Moore to Schottenheimer is a downgrade in that area. Real talk.

As someone who had him as an OC for 3 years, I'm really not a fan of this hire.

He’s been a consultant here for a year already and still won’t actually be calling plays. I still think the Jones’ are just giving MM enough rope to hang himself with.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#85 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Feb 5, 2023 2:18 am

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Solari & Schotty back together! Lmao

I'll be honest, Brian Schottenheimer is not a great hire.

I know McCarthy will likely be calling plays. But Schotty, like his dad, is very old school. Runs a very simplified offense. Which could benefit Dak. But don't expect a ton of creativity. Going from Kellen Moore to Schottenheimer is a downgrade in that area. Real talk.

As someone who had him as an OC for 3 years, I'm really not a fan of this hire.

He’s been a consultant here for a year already and still won’t actually be calling plays. I still think the Jones’ are just giving MM enough rope to hang himself with.

Okay, so the Solari hire makes more sense. The two of them worked together in Seattle for 3 years. Mike also worked for his dad. So they have history.

He won't be calling plays. But still...Schotty has probably been a mid-bottom tier OC throughout his time in the league. Likely a step down from Kellen Moore. Lateral move at best. Even if it's just as an assistant under McCarthy. Still not very inspiring.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#86 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sun Feb 5, 2023 2:29 am

Shotty has the imagination of a hyena in heat. Onward through the fog.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#87 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sun Feb 5, 2023 2:35 am

Mr B wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:Considering the Cowboys need to add another weapon to the offense should they consider trading their 1st for Tee Higgins? He’s be BY FAR better than any WR in this draft and he and CeeDee would probably be the best WR duo in the league.

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Love Tee Higgins. Love to have him. Only problem is we have Dak throwing to him. Why give up all that draft capital to get a really nice WR like Higgins when you have Prescott and McCarthy coming back.

I think having Dak is the reason you need excellent WR’s and RB’s and TE’s. Dak is not Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Mahomes where he’s going to elevate the level of play of his skill players. Because of Dak’s shortcomings they need elite players at every other position to elevate his play.

The fact is Dak isn’t going anywhere. He’s the guy the Jones have hitched their wagon to. So if this team wants any kind of chance at winning they HAVE to get better at the skill positions. It’s a crappy way to build a team but it’s the unfortunate situation we as fans find ourself in.

Then draft run pounding RB in the draft to go along with Pollard and another O-lineman. Keep dumb Dak from throwing more than 25 passes a game. Get a dominate running game and just have Dak hand the ball off 75% of the time. Hopefully he can do that without fumbling for the next year or so.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#88 » by Mr B » Sun Feb 5, 2023 4:54 am

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Mr B wrote:
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Solari & Schotty back together! Lmao

I'll be honest, Brian Schottenheimer is not a great hire.

I know McCarthy will likely be calling plays. But Schotty, like his dad, is very old school. Runs a very simplified offense. Which could benefit Dak. But don't expect a ton of creativity. Going from Kellen Moore to Schottenheimer is a downgrade in that area. Real talk.

As someone who had him as an OC for 3 years, I'm really not a fan of this hire.

He’s been a consultant here for a year already and still won’t actually be calling plays. I still think the Jones’ are just giving MM enough rope to hang himself with.

Okay, so the Solari hire makes more sense. The two of them worked together in Seattle for 3 years. Mike also worked for his dad. So they have history.

He won't be calling plays. But still...Schotty has probably been a mid-bottom tier OC throughout his time in the league. Likely a step down from Kellen Moore. Lateral move at best. Even if it's just as an assistant under McCarthy. Still not very inspiring.

Hence why I said the Jones’ are giving MM enough rope to hang himself with. HE chose Shotty, that’s his guy. If he doesn’t get to at very least the NFC Championship Game then he’s gone. Jerry has given him everything he needs to get to that point. If he doesn’t get there then Dan Quinn will be the next HC. He won Jerry over and has been loyal to Jerry by staying two years in a row when he could have had his own team.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#89 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sun Feb 5, 2023 3:51 pm

McCarthy doesn't need any more rope to hang himself. He has already done that IMHO. Now that Peyton has committed to Denver, this is all just drama and showtime looney tunes till Dan Quinn takes over next year. To me this looks like another wasted year of a very talented team coming up short once again thanks to Jerry because we are stuck with Dak and McCarthy again next year. You would think after 27 years Jerry would have learned his lesson when it comes to the two most important positions in the NFL. QB and Head Coach. There's a reason why tandems like Bellicheat/Brady, Burrow/Taylor and Reid/Mahomes are always in the Super Bowl or constantly knocking on the door.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#90 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Feb 5, 2023 9:08 pm

Mr B wrote:Hence why I said the Jones’ are giving MM enough rope to hang himself with. HE chose Shotty, that’s his guy. If he doesn’t get to at very least the NFC Championship Game then he’s gone. Jerry has given him everything he needs to get to that point. If he doesn’t get there then Dan Quinn will be the next HC. He won Jerry over and has been loyal to Jerry by staying two years in a row when he could have had his own team.

Idk Jerry is pretty damn loyal as you say. I mean he stuck it out with Garrett longer than anyone expected. I'm not so sure he'd move on from McCarthy so quickly. Assuming they remain competitive.

Btw my condolences on the Kyrie move. Not sure what Cuban is thinking? :wink:
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#91 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:40 pm

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Mr B wrote:Hence why I said the Jones’ are giving MM enough rope to hang himself with. HE chose Shotty, that’s his guy. If he doesn’t get to at very least the NFC Championship Game then he’s gone. Jerry has given him everything he needs to get to that point. If he doesn’t get there then Dan Quinn will be the next HC. He won Jerry over and has been loyal to Jerry by staying two years in a row when he could have had his own team.

Idk Jerry is pretty damn loyal as you say. I mean he stuck it out with Garrett longer than anyone expected. I'm not so sure he'd move on from McCarthy so quickly. Assuming they remain competitive.

Btw my condolences on the Kyrie move. Not sure what Cuban is thinking? :wink:

Don't worry. Jerry will fix it. :eyebrows:
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#92 » by Mr B » Sun Feb 5, 2023 11:01 pm

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Mr B wrote:Hence why I said the Jones’ are giving MM enough rope to hang himself with. HE chose Shotty, that’s his guy. If he doesn’t get to at very least the NFC Championship Game then he’s gone. Jerry has given him everything he needs to get to that point. If he doesn’t get there then Dan Quinn will be the next HC. He won Jerry over and has been loyal to Jerry by staying two years in a row when he could have had his own team.

Idk Jerry is pretty damn loyal as you say. I mean he stuck it out with Garrett longer than anyone expected. I'm not so sure he'd move on from McCarthy so quickly. Assuming they remain competitive.

Btw my condolences on the Kyrie move. Not sure what Cuban is thinking? :wink:

Jerry doesn’t have the same ties to MM that he had with Garrett family. Garrett’s dad was a long time coach in Dallas, both Garrett and his brother played in Dallas, and Garrett was hand picked by Jerry to be the next Sean Payton. So Jerry a lot more invested in Garrett than he does with MM.

As for the Kyrie trade, I actually love it as a Mavs fan. They HAD to make this trade. Luka told them he needed help and wanted them to get another star. Well they did at a fairly cheap price. They needed another ball handler to bring Luka’s usage down and they got probably the best ball handler in the NBA to help Luka. Worst case scenario and Kyrie walks, it means they are not tied to him long term and it was a huge salary dump. That would allow them to get a max player in free agency.

Plus they still have enough assets to make a move before Thursday’s deadline.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#93 » by Micah Prescott » Mon Feb 6, 2023 1:26 am

Mr B wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Mr B wrote:Considering the Cowboys need to add another weapon to the offense should they consider trading their 1st for Tee Higgins? He’s be BY FAR better than any WR in this draft and he and CeeDee would probably be the best WR duo in the league.

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Love Tee Higgins. Love to have him. Only problem is we have Dak throwing to him. Why give up all that draft capital to get a really nice WR like Higgins when you have Prescott and McCarthy coming back.

I think having Dak is the reason you need excellent WR’s and RB’s and TE’s. Dak is not Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady or Mahomes where he’s going to elevate the level of play of his skill players. Because of Dak’s shortcomings they need elite players at every other position to elevate his play.

The fact is Dak isn’t going anywhere. He’s the guy the Jones have hitched their wagon to. So if this team wants any kind of chance at winning they HAVE to get better at the skill positions. It’s a crappy way to build a team but it’s the unfortunate situation we as fans find ourself in.

Literally every single team not named the Chiefs is in this situation. Rodgers isn't Rodgers any more, losing Adams was too much for him to overcome. Brady is retiring.

There is only 1 Mahomes. He is the only QB that can single handedly win games and make mediocre WRs look like studs.

The rest of us have to deal with what's left.

Dak is around top 8-12 range. It's fine. You're right that we need to load talent around him but that is precisely what Philly has done with Hurts. It can work.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#94 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:32 am

Hopefully tonight we will find out if Parsons is defensive player of the year. Hopefully soon we will also find out if Darren Woodson and Chuck Howley get elected to the Pro Football hall Of fame this summer.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#95 » by Mr B » Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:19 am

Would you guys trade for Stefon Diggs? If so what would you be willing to give up?
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#96 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:30 am

Mr B wrote:Would you guys trade for Stefon Diggs? If so what would you be willing to give up?

Diggs is a top 3/5 receiver. You'd probably have to give up the moon to get him. Two first's or a 1st & a 2nd. Which is a lot. That was the price for Adams.

Would you be willing to do that?
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#97 » by Otis Driftwood » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:19 pm

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Mr B wrote:Would you guys trade for Stefon Diggs? If so what would you be willing to give up?

Diggs is a top 3/5 receiver. You'd probably have to give up the moon to get him. Two first's or a 1st & a 2nd. Which is a lot. That was the price for Adams.

Would you be willing to do that?


And just as important - would Buffalo be willing to do that?
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#98 » by Mr B » Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:26 pm

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Mr B wrote:Would you guys trade for Stefon Diggs? If so what would you be willing to give up?

Diggs is a top 3/5 receiver. You'd probably have to give up the moon to get him. Two first's or a 1st & a 2nd. Which is a lot. That was the price for Adams.

Would you be willing to do that?


And just as important - would Buffalo be willing to do that?

Well he’s having issues with the Bills ownership I believe. Or maybe it’s the coaches he’s having a problem with, not really sure. But I do know that his brother has been campaigning for Cowboys to get him to Dallas. He wants the team to trade for his brother.

Personally I might be talked into trade 1 first round pick but definitely not multiple first round picks.
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#99 » by Mr B » Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:27 pm

Here’s another question. I saw that Baltimore is open to trading Jackson. For cap reasons this trade could never happen however if you could, would y’all trade Dak for Jackson?
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Re: 2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes 

Post#100 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:07 pm

Mr B wrote:Here’s another question. I saw that Baltimore is open to trading Jackson. For cap reasons this trade could never happen however if you could, would y’all trade Dak for Jackson?

I wouldn't do it.

Lamar wants a fully guaranteed contract or the most guarantees behind Deshaun Watson. The Ravens are too smart for that & thus he remains unsigned.

He's too much of a gamble due to his playing style. He hasn't stayed healthy because of it.

I would pass on Lamar.
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