Dez contract negotiations

[RJ MacReady1]

I don't like where this is going.

Dez Bryant.

"It's all about respect. It's all about respect, "I am a very loyal person, but just don't test my loyalty."

"I just know what I'm going to accept, and I know what I'm not going to accept,"

"I've been here for five years. You know, it's not about the money. It's not about none of that. I just feel like a little respect should play a factor in that"



Dez getting a top tier contract is no longer what i feel is best for the Cowboys.

As good a Dez is ...I see receiver's being somewhat more expendable that other positions.
Look at the Giants ..Cruz goes out ODB turns into a star (I know it's not always that easy)

The off field issues plus he will always be the center of attention ...and you don't know how TOish that can get.

Here is a question, if they sign Dez, how much of that contract will Romo be the QB?
What if Romo can't deal with the pain any longer and retires before the start of the 2015 season.

Say we flounder at the QB position for several years ...that big Dez contract is a waste of money.
The best receiver in the world can't help being overthrown.

What makes Dez the beast is also what makes him a risk. He hates to go down and fights for every single inch.
That is great but it's also the most likely reason he will get hurt.

[Manster7588]

The double teams Dez takes makes it easier for the others, that one reason I say the Cowboys need to take advantage of that and not force the ball to Dez. If we resign Dez and Romo retires we still have the line and a very nice receiver core, and run game. We can find a good QB late 1st or early 2nd in the draft. I try to resign Dez unless his contract makes it impossible to improve the DL.

[PDay8810]

I'm still trying to figure this out. I know as a fan of the cowboys, I don't trust Dez long term and this latest sound bite confirms it for me. That was pure new agent talk and is getting in the way of THIS SEASON.

Be the man you were in August, Mr.Bryant....table the talks till seasons end.
BUT it appears the new agent has different intensions and lord knows he's seeing additional opportunities through Mr. Bryant. It's clear who's puling this train now. "Don't assume my loyalty? LOL

it's just business........that works both ways

[Manster7588]

If the Cowboys can't pay that "Respect" so be it. We move on. I won't complain if this is the case. Hell there's still some complaining about us passing on Moss.

[Jarntt]

I watched the video and all he did was answer the questions he was asked, so I don't think it's a big deal at all. BUT, he could/should have just said "no comment" as well. Maybe he is just taking after the GM that doesn't turn down an opportunity to discuss it either...

I'm not going to tie signing Dez to Romo being here. Why not just cut everyone and start over if Romo leaves? I think this team is bigger than any one guy and I like our options going forwad with or without Romo. We have a lot of young talent. It's not like we'll be starting Weeden for 5 years if Romo leaves. That being said, I still don't know why we didn't use a mid to late pick on one of the QBs this year. I know our plan was having Orton to protect us for the next two years, but when Romo eventually goes I'd rather be prepared rather than be set back for a year until we find a good replacement. I also don't want a lot of dead money from Romo after he leaves that will prevent us from signing a good replacement in the unlikely scenario that a top QB ends up a FA at the same time.

[Romotodez]

Colleges aren't exactly helping the Qb position these days. This new wave of Qbs aren't ready when they get to the NFL and are forced to play. I said it the other day, teams better hope these mid 30s Qbs continue to play. If your name isn't Luck, I'm not sure I would want any of the others. I loved WIlson coming out, but I still believe he has to be in be right system. Hoping Romo plays til he is 40.

[Manster7588]

Murray or Savage would have been nice to pick up. But I thought one might be available in the 5th. Seeing Hitchens play now I think the team made the right decision.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Until I feel Dez is serious about being a Cowboy for life and really wanting to be here for all we have done for him, I wouldn't go long term. Too much of a risk with his past.

[snookdad]

I don't understand the hypocrisy of both owners and fans in the NFL. I can understand why some would be afraid to resign Dez because of possible of the field issues, but I think those issues apply to a large percent of the players in the league. So I get that. What I question is why do fans get angry when these guys try and gain the most lucrative contract they possibly can? The rules of business seems to apply in every aspect of the NFL until it's a player trying to lock up the best deal that he possibly can. Dez are any player shouldn't be scrutinized because they're looking to secure the long term business and that's not a reflection of his character. If I had the ability to negotiate my contract every 4 years you better believe i'm going to get as much cash as possible. My loyalty to a degree is absolutely directly proportionate to my financial security. He said nothing wrong. If Dez is out pricing himself that's for JJ to decide.

[snookdad]

I'm guessing if Dez isn't resigned by seasons end He'll be a Redskin or what ever the Hell they'll be called.

[Romotodez]

I don't understand the hypocrisy of both owners and fans in the NFL. I can understand why some would be afraid to resign Dez because of possible of the field issues, but I think those issues apply to a large percent of the players in the league. So I get that. What I question is why do fans get angry when these guys try and gain the most lucrative contract they possibly can? The rules of business seems to apply in every aspect of the NFL until it's a player trying to lock up the best deal that he possibly can. Dez are any player shouldn't be scrutinized because they're looking to secure the long term business and that's not a reflection of his character. If I had the ability to negotiate my contract every 4 years you better believe i'm going to get as much cash as possible. My loyalty to a degree is absolutely directly proportionate to my financial security. He said nothing wrong. If Dez is out pricing himself that's for JJ to decide.

ExcellEnt points. It's his time to get paid whether it is by us or someone else. The guy has some tremendous traits no doubt. I don't know about the percentage of the league with off the field troubles, but you are correct there are plenty. I think some fans are irked because he said negotiations are off until afterwards nd then put it back out there after he signed with a different person. Those are his decisions. The guarantee is the key. It's easy to put 100 million down on paper. The team can cut him anytime so he should take his time with this.

[Romotodez]

Now froM managements side, they have about 20 of their own to think about. MUrray will likely lead the league in rushing. This undrafted guard may be the key to the whole thing. Melton is starting to look every bit as good as Hatcher and looks like he could be a force. That is 4 big time players along with DEz. We haven't even talked about MCClain or Durant. We will need a 3rd Wr as well. Street hasn't looked like he can be that guy yet. Lots of questions but there is time.

[Schmoopy1000]

"I am a very loyal person, but just don't test my loyalty."
soooo..... How do you know your loyal unless your loyalty is tested?
&
what good is loyalty if it cant ever be tested?

This comment makes absolutely no sense.

Sounds like he is going for the top contract for WRs if that is the case I say tag him until we find a replacement

[Manster7588]

I don't understand the hypocrisy of both owners and fans in the NFL. I can understand why some would be afraid to resign Dez because of possible of the field issues, but I think those issues apply to a large percent of the players in the league. So I get that. What I question is why do fans get angry when these guys try and gain the most lucrative contract they possibly can? The rules of business seems to apply in every aspect of the NFL until it's a player trying to lock up the best deal that he possibly can. Dez are any player shouldn't be scrutinized because they're looking to secure the long term business and that's not a reflection of his character. If I had the ability to negotiate my contract every 4 years you better believe i'm going to get as much cash as possible. My loyalty to a degree is absolutely directly proportionate to my financial security. He said nothing wrong. If Dez is out pricing himself that's for JJ to decide.

Personally I don't care how much a pro sports player makes. If the money is there and the team is willing or can afford the money let them get it.

What gets me is when they say show me respect with $$$$$ or when a guy making 5M tried to say he can't feed his kids.

With the salary cap there's only so much $$$$ available. If you tie up 60 to 70% of that cap in three players you cannot fill the roster with true NFL quality players. When a player demands respect he is in fact taking available talent away from the team. If I were to tie up that much of the cap in 3 players it would be QB, LT, and DE. I'd prefer two top 15 WR's if I can use the same $$$ it would take to have 1 top 5 WR. Same with RB I'd spend money on the OL and fill the RB slot with a couple of 4th rounders.
My team build plan would allocate monies to QB, OL, and DL. Everyone else would get the left overs.

[snookdad]

I don't understand the hypocrisy of both owners and fans in the NFL. I can understand why some would be afraid to resign Dez because of possible of the field issues, but I think those issues apply to a large percent of the players in the league. So I get that. What I question is why do fans get angry when these guys try and gain the most lucrative contract they possibly can? The rules of business seems to apply in every aspect of the NFL until it's a player trying to lock up the best deal that he possibly can. Dez are any player shouldn't be scrutinized because they're looking to secure the long term business and that's not a reflection of his character. If I had the ability to negotiate my contract every 4 years you better believe i'm going to get as much cash as possible. My loyalty to a degree is absolutely directly proportionate to my financial security. He said nothing wrong. If Dez is out pricing himself that's for JJ to decide.

Personally I don't care how much a pro sports player makes. If the money is there and the team is willing or can afford the money let them get it.

What gets me is when they say show me respect with $$$$$ or when a guy making 5M tried to say he can't feed his kids.

With the salary cap there's only so much $$$$ available. If you tie up 60 to 70% of that cap in three players you cannot fill the roster with true NFL quality players. When a player demands respect he is in fact taking available talent away from the team. If I were to tie up that much of the cap in 3 players it would be QB, LT, and DE. I'd prefer two top 15 WR's if I can use the same $$$ it would take to have 1 top 5 WR. Same with RB I'd spend money on the OL and fill the RB slot with a couple of 4th rounders.
My team build plan would allocate monies to QB, OL, and DL. Everyone else would get the left overs.

I can agree with every thing you said. I'm just curious to why it makes him a less loyal are a bad guy for pursuing the heftiest contract possible. JJ and SJ will decide if this is a sustainable business model. I prefer to keep Dez, but if he has to go I will survive. If we have to choose between Dez and Murray if I had a choice, I would have to say keep Dez.

[Jarntt]

Now froM managements side, they have about 20 of their own to think about. MUrray will likely lead the league in rushing. This undrafted guard may be the key to the whole thing. Melton is starting to look every bit as good as Hatcher and looks like he could be a force. That is 4 big time players along with DEz. We haven't even talked about MCClain or Durant. We will need a 3rd Wr as well. Street hasn't looked like he can be that guy yet. Lots of questions but there is time.

Or Carter since you are talking LB. My guess is we resign McClain if the $'s are reasonable and resign one of Carter or Durant. Then you have Hitchens competing for a starting job or backing up at all 3 spots. That gives you 4 LBs and other than McClain the others could all play any of the 3 spots. Then you have Wilbur and a couple of these other guys competing for the jobs that are left. Probably see another draft pick or cheap FA in the mix too.

[Jarntt]

I don't understand the hypocrisy of both owners and fans in the NFL. I can understand why some would be afraid to resign Dez because of possible of the field issues, but I think those issues apply to a large percent of the players in the league. So I get that. What I question is why do fans get angry when these guys try and gain the most lucrative contract they possibly can? The rules of business seems to apply in every aspect of the NFL until it's a player trying to lock up the best deal that he possibly can. Dez are any player shouldn't be scrutinized because they're looking to secure the long term business and that's not a reflection of his character. If I had the ability to negotiate my contract every 4 years you better believe i'm going to get as much cash as possible. My loyalty to a degree is absolutely directly proportionate to my financial security. He said nothing wrong. If Dez is out pricing himself that's for JJ to decide.

Personally I don't care how much a pro sports player makes. If the money is there and the team is willing or can afford the money let them get it.

What gets me is when they say show me respect with $$$$$ or when a guy making 5M tried to say he can't feed his kids.

With the salary cap there's only so much $$$$ available. If you tie up 60 to 70% of that cap in three players you cannot fill the roster with true NFL quality players. When a player demands respect he is in fact taking available talent away from the team. If I were to tie up that much of the cap in 3 players it would be QB, LT, and DE. I'd prefer two top 15 WR's if I can use the same $$$ it would take to have 1 top 5 WR. Same with RB I'd spend money on the OL and fill the RB slot with a couple of 4th rounders.
My team build plan would allocate monies to QB, OL, and DL. Everyone else would get the left overs.

I can agree with every thing you said. I'm just curious to why it makes him a less loyal are a bad guy for pursuing the heftiest contract possible. JJ and SJ will decide if this is a sustainable business model. I prefer to keep Dez, but if he has to go I will survive. If we have to choose between Dez and Murray if I had a choice, I would have to say keep Dez.

It doesn't make him less loyal. Dez is the one that brought up loyalty and respect. Everyone else knew it was always about the $ from the beginning. Bringing up loyalty and respect is just a way to pretend it isn't only about money when we all know that's what the negotiations are about. Now if the Cowboys are trying to include language about body guards and not going to clubs or anything like that and that is what he is referring to, then if I'm Dez I tell them to shove it. He's 26 years old and isn't going to sign anything like that now that he is in the driver's seat...

[Romotodez]

One thing is for certain, we have a lot of players that play big parts that are free agents. I like our players. I hope we sign as many as possible. I don't think Randle can carry the load like MUrray has this yr. We still have WIlliams on the Psquad. Not sure he is the answer either but for some reason he is still here. There are some Wrs out there if we were to lose Dez- but I don't think that will happen.

[PDay8810]

agree with jarntt.
That was pure agent stroking the fire while it' hot.

table it for end of season

[ncmalko1]

Another thing no one has mentioned is there are a bunch of good FA WR's this year. Maclin, dude from Denver too. Maclin sure isnt as talented as Dez but does have slightly better numbers this year and would costs a LOT less.