2016 Draft - Never too early

Otis Driftwood · Post #1 » by **Otis Driftwood** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:16 pm

Might as well fire it up, BJJ. As we have pretty much agreed where our gaps are already. DT...LB... CB... RB... and you can never go wrong drafting offensive linemen.

And - I think this is the year we need to get serious about "the QB of the future". I would make an honest effort to resign Cassel. Best backup we've had since Romo. Then - draft the QB to groom. Only question is who and where in the draft.

ThunderFan123 · Post #2 » by **ThunderFan123** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:13 pm

Think we draft top 15, maybe top 10. Think RB is #1 priority. If we get a top 10 pick, landing Derrick Henry would be nice

bluejerseyjinx · Post #3 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:02 am

LMAO !!!! I haven't changed my mind. This will be the 4th year in a row I want DT, DT, LB,LB and after that you guys can all fight over the remainder of the draft. That's all I ever wanted or asked for the past 4 years, for xmas or anything else. I want to start a Doomsday III defense first, and fill in after that. I'm sick and tired of not being dominate on the D-line and running game. We've been so **** against the run for so many years now I have stopped counting. I have been right about it for years but no one will listen, especially the most important idiot, Jerry.
However, I have been listening to you all, caught up on some reading at the hoop, and my eye test agrees with most of you all on the other issues. The RB position needs to be resolved and addressed this offseason. You know the old saying, when you have 3 RB's, you actually have none. When we've had our great runs and successful years, we went with only one main guy. Perkins, Thomas, Dorsett and Emmitt. And wow guys, do we need another dominate TE, and in a hurry. The way the game is played today, its too important to not be exceptionally strong in that area. We are just starting to get out of salary cap hell, so the damn front office and Jerry will need to keep getting good draft to work on our depth. We have none.

Otis Driftwood · Post #4 » by **Otis Driftwood** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:00 pm

ThunderFan123 wrote:Think we draft top 15, maybe top 10. Think RB is #1 priority. If we get a top 10 pick, landing Derrick Henry would be nice

If we pick high enough where Henry sits... I'm all over him! But... I tend to side with BJJ this off season. Defense was exposed while Romo was out. Crawford isn't the guy they thought when they gave him that contract. And - we are going to need LB's once McClain leaves and (I fear) Lee has to make a tough choice. Add to it Claiborne saying adios... and Carr probably being a salary cap cut... Quality RB's are there to be had on day 2. My focus would be defense too.

But - if Henry is there, I'm thinking hard about that one.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #5 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:36 pm

Unfortunately I have no power to nominate or put you in total charge of the next Cowboy Draft. I can also think of at least 5 or 6 guys over at the hoop would make better draft choices than Jerry. I just wish I had the power to make the first 4 upcoming draft choices in this year's draft.

Otis Driftwood · Post #6 » by **Otis Driftwood** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:27 am

So... anyway.

Back to the draft

bluejerseyjinx · Post #7 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:11 am

Yes, time to prep for the war room and get the scouting department on overtime. :banghead:

Otis Driftwood · Post #8 » by **Otis Driftwood** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:14 pm

And - the talking heads have started the drumbeat that the Cowboys need to draft a QB in the first round. Friggin' nimrods!

bluejerseyjinx · Post #9 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:37 pm

ThunderFan123 wrote:Think we draft top 15, maybe top 10. Think RB is #1 priority. If we get a top 10 pick, landing Derrick Henry would be nice

First of all, I believe we will be in the top 6 this upcoming draft. And I know this is just your opinion, but really, a RB. How many more years do you want to go with a lousy defense with no DT's and LB's? We haven't had a dominate DT since Leon Lett and still have no DT today. We need to get rid of Hardy and McClain and Sean Lee can't stay healthy. And when Lee does not play we get **** shredded every time which suggest to me we have no depth on defense. I couldn't disagree with you more.

Otis Driftwood · Post #10 » by **Otis Driftwood** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:49 pm

As long as there is a dominant DT sitting there that isn't a "reach", I have no issue with your position BJJ. My only worry here is Jerry's propensity to reach as opposed to just taking the best player available. If Henry is sitting there... I have to take him. If Fournette is sitting there... I have to take him. If a can't-miss DT is sitting there... I have to take him.

If all three are sitting there...

Hell - I'm with you! I'm taking the DT. But he had better be can't-miss!

bluejerseyjinx · Post #11 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:36 pm

Roadhog Moran wrote:As long as there is a dominant DT sitting there that isn't a "reach", I have no issue with your position BJJ. My only worry here is Jerry's propensity to reach as opposed to just taking the best player available. If Henry is sitting there... I have to take him. If Fournette is sitting there... I have to take him. If a can't-miss DT is sitting there... I have to take him.

If all three are sitting there...

Hell - I'm with you! I'm taking the DT. But he had better be can't-miss!

What scares me the most is so many Cowboy fans and a lot over at the hoop want a QB. I am in full agreement we need to groom someone. But Romo's cap hit next year goes up tremendously. Why go after a QB in the first round when we know Romo will be back and Jerry committed to him 2 years ago. We have so many other needs, especially on DL and LB.

Otis Driftwood · Post #12 » by **Otis Driftwood** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:30 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:
Roadhog Moran wrote:As long as there is a dominant DT sitting there that isn't a "reach", I have no issue with your position BJJ. My only worry here is Jerry's propensity to reach as opposed to just taking the best player available. If Henry is sitting there... I have to take him. If Fournette is sitting there... I have to take him. If a can't-miss DT is sitting there... I have to take him.

If all three are sitting there...

Hell - I'm with you! I'm taking the DT. But he had better be can't-miss!

What scares me the most is so many Cowboy fans and a lot over at the hoop want a QB. I am in full agreement we need to groom someone. But Romo's cap hit next year goes up tremendously. Why go after a QB in the first round when we know Romo will be back and Jerry committed to him 2 years ago. We have so many other needs, especially on DL and LB.

If the defense had been good enough to make one or two stops that won games (like against Seattle for example) then they "might" be able to make a decent argument. But this defense still looks like the one that couldn't stop a one-legged QB in the playoffs back in January. No QB fixes that.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #13 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:07 am

I was actually hoping the 49ers were going to pull the upset so we would have the worst record in the conference. Hopefully we will get Number 3 or 4. Cleveland, Miami and Titans are pretty bad.

ThunderFan123 · Post #14 » by **ThunderFan123** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 12:53 am

What do y'all think about Nkemdiche from Ole Miss? Top 5 material? Seen him play a couple times on TV and he has looked impressive

Otis Driftwood · Post #15 » by **Otis Driftwood** » Thu Dec 3, 2015 4:03 pm

ThunderFan123 wrote:What do y'all think about Nkemdiche from Ole Miss? Top 5 material? Seen him play a couple times on TV and he has looked impressive

I've seen him too. He seemed to live up to the hype when he came from HS. A friend in Georgia loves him. He seems a little light but plenty of college players add weight without sacrificing quickness.

Is he a Top 5 Draft pick? Not sure. He has an interesting choice to make. But I would damn sure have him on the radar.

Schmoopy1000 · Post #16 » by **Schmoopy1000** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 5:32 am

only one reason to use a 1st round on the QB.
if he is the next Peyton/Luck once a generation type QB. & if that player is here in the draft he would go #1. So there really is no reason at all to draft a QB in the 1st round for the boys.

Otis Driftwood · Post #17 » by **Otis Driftwood** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 7:01 pm

Schmoopy1000 wrote:only one reason to use a 1st round on the QB.
if he is the next Peyton/Luck once a generation type QB. & if that player is here in the draft he would go #1. So there really is no reason at all to draft a QB in the 1st round for the boys.

Exactly! How many teams have made that fatal choice over the last 15 years. You miss that early in the draft on a "guy" you "think" has it and you've set your program back another 5 years.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #18 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Mon Dec 7, 2015 9:58 pm

We are already committed to Romo for 4 more years with a nice $17 million cap hit starting next year. Can't see signing a high #1 draft choice on a QB to be groomed and sit the bench in a back up role for the next 3 years. :crazy:

I still want DT, DT and more LB's. But if we do anything on offense, RB is also a huge need that will help the running game keep and Romo off his back and taking so many hits.

Otis Driftwood · Post #19 » by **Otis Driftwood** » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:36 pm

ThunderFan123 wrote:What do y'all think about Nkemdiche from Ole Miss? Top 5 material? Seen him play a couple times on TV and he has looked impressive

I think I might have one or two questions about him now. Something about jumping out of windows leaves just a small level of concern for me. I'm sure there's a perfectly good explanation though.

bluejerseyjinx · Post #20 » by **bluejerseyjinx** » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:35 am

Schmoopy1000 wrote:only one reason to use a 1st round on the QB.
if he is the next Peyton/Luck once a generation type QB. & if that player is here in the draft he would go #1. So there really is no reason at all to draft a QB in the 1st round for the boys.

You should take your wonderful Mod over at the hoop to task on this one. I agree with you on this but I couldn't believe many of the posts on the hoop the other day when I was doing some catch up reading. Its bad enough your mod is a despicable person and lousy mod, but I'm beginning to wonder if he is competent or starting to lose it. To post and say the Cowboys should basically stay the course made me sick. Go pretty much all out on a QB, RB and another WR. All the lousy coaching and poor defensive play was the fault of too many injuries. REALLY, WOW. I'd probably get banned again if I bantered with him on this.
I must be missing something here. I guess some people are just plain numb or just don't get it when it comes to bottom line facts right in front of their faces. Its been going on since the turn of the century, look it up, its all there to see.
Can any Cowboy fan please tell me where I am wrong? Am I missing something, when every year I look at defensive stats for the last 15 years, and it doesn't matter what stat, Vs. the run, Vs, the pass, T.D.'s against, Points against, total yards given up, I mean I could keep going on here for another paragraph. Except for one halfway decent year, we are always at or near the bottom in almost every defensive category. WE have nothing resembling or anything close to resembling anything Doomsday1, Doomsday II or early 90's teams. Oh, I forgot again, Jerry has been pretty much GM for the past 20 years. I bet it wouldn't have taken Landry or Jimmy 20 years to build a championship defense.