2023 Cowboys Offseason News & Notes

[Mr B]

Not impossible, there are 7 QBs in the Hall of Fame who never won a ring.

I think he will go on to have post season success though, so many QBs peak in their 30s, Steve Young played 10 seasons before winning a ring in 94 at age 33. Peyton, Elway, many others peaked late. If Dak plays another 8 years, I don't know that he will get a ring, but I would bet he'll have many playoff victories. And I think the next 5 years will be his peak.

The difference between those QB’s and Dak is all had previously made it to the Conference Championship game before finally breaking through to win a SB. All were in the cusp of getting to the SB.

Dak is entering his prime and does still have a chance but history is not on his side. No QB in NFL history (age 30 or older) with only 2 career playoff wins has ever gone on a SB run. That doesn’t mean it can’t be done but history is not on his side.

Where did you get that info? That's completely untrue. Dak keeps getting the Peyton comparison who was also 2-4 in the playoffs just like Dak going into his 30s.

It looks like Steve Young was 2-2 in the post season before winning at age 33

Steve Young was 8-6 overall in the post season, the ONLY time he got more than 1 win was 94, his SB year.

John Elway was 37 before finally making it to the SB. Although I can see he had a few seasons with 2 playoff wins before.

Then there are the QBs who kind of fell into a SB win like Brad Johnson. Johnson only had 1 playoff win before winning a ring at age 34

Doug Williams only had 1 playoff win before winning it all at age 32

Joe Theismann had ZERO playoff wins before winning a ring at age 33



In fact now that I look at this, I think it is more uncommon for 20-somethings to win rings. Mahomes is the outliar.

Peyton Manning made it to the 2004 AFC Championship game. That was his 6th season, he was 28 years old.

Steve Young was in his 6th season with San Fran when he made it to the NFC Championship Game. He would have made it sooner if it weren’t Joe Montana and the fact that his first two seasons were spent on other teams before getting traded to San Fran.

John Elway won the AFC Championship in 1987 in his 4th season. Lost in the SB. He was 27.

[Mr B]

Roger, who is BJJ's God, was 29 winning his first ring, (close to 30) and had no playoff wins going into that.

Roger won his second at age 35

Don’t forget that Staubach had to serve 4 years in the Navy before he could play in the NFL.

[Micah Prescott]

Okay but you said "no qb in history over age 30 with only 2 PO wins ever went on to win a ring"

Between that and BJJ claiming the defense scored 5 million points, wtf is going on in here?

[Cactus Jack]

If Lance comes in at any point of this season for any reason beyond mop up then we are already screwed and playing for draft position next spring.

Anyone expecting anything beyond that is simply unrealistic.

You are correct, sir.

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[bluejerseyjinx]

They were arguing with this matter a while back on ESPN. To be honest, I don't know how they arrived at 224 either. In 2021 the Cowboys had 42 points in defense and special teams scoring. 2022 they had only 18 points. Maybe they added kicker scoring. But that doesn't add up either. 129 points in 2021 and 137 in 2022. This is why I don't listen to most of these ESPN guys or ESPN at all while I'm washing dishes.
As of yesterday I don't have ESPN on my cable provider anymore. Noticed it came up blank starting yesterday. Apparently ESPN is asking too much so Spectrum dropped them. Good thing I have a stick to stream.

Now you're pinning it on some vague ESPN comment that you can't explain after telling me "it's nit hard to find out".

"It's right there in plain site"


I don't care who said it, like I said earlier, how did you not immediately know it was off? You should already know that defenses don't score hundreds of points just from common sense.

I just spent 4 hours looking up every Cowboy 2021 & 2022 PPG stats and I can't find anything to back up what they are saying. My bad I guess. The only thing they may have been referring to in their debates are the INT's and other turnovers created by the defense that lead to scores the offense got credit for. That's what I get listening from the other room when Dan Orlovski is talking.

[Mr B]

Okay but you said "no qb in history over age 30 with only 2 PO wins ever went on to win a ring"

Between that and BJJ claiming the defense scored 5 million points, wtf is going on in here?

Where was I wrong?

[Micah Prescott]

Okay but you said "no qb in history over age 30 with only 2 PO wins ever went on to win a ring"

Between that and BJJ claiming the defense scored 5 million points, wtf is going on in here?

Where was I wrong?

There are many QBs who won a ring over age 30 who had 2 PO wins or less. Stafford, Williams, Theismann, Johnson, to name a few

[Mr B]

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[Otis Driftwood]

Cowboys and RT Terence Steele reached agreement on a five-year, $86.8 million contract extension that includes $50 million guaranteed, per sources. Deal has a max upside of up to $91.8 million. The contract was negotiated and confirmed by @ErikBurkhardt of @RocNationSports.

Good for him & good for the Cowboys.

[bluejerseyjinx]

I wonder how Cooper Rush feels about it. Kind of a slap in the face to him. That's the Cowboys letting Cooper know that he had no future here as a starter.

I don’t think anyone envisioned Cooper Rush ever being the full time starter in Dallas. He’s always be a career backup.

Cooper Rush has a noodle arm and Trey Lance has a cannon for starters. Lance is also more mobile and athletic by a mile along with being a better runner and scrambler. Lance is way more of a weapon than Rush.

[Micah Prescott]

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[Mr B]

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People seem to forget that he was recruited to Penn St as a RB not a LB.