Hail To The Redskins

[Rafael122]

People are not going to like what I say, but...I'd keep the coaching staff the way it is for next season.

I'd also keep Campbell, at least for a year. This whole thing with Sherman Lewis/Sherman Smith/Jim Zorn seems to be working. Our offense actually moves the ball now.

I think if you keep Campbell, they should just draft the top o-linemen they can find in the draft and start him right away. Seems to have worked with Oher in Baltimore. I'd also make changes, i.e. like trading or releasing Portis, etc.

[Wizards2Lottery]

Greg Blache has to go. Freaking idiot. I hope we trade Laron Landry too. What a disgrace this guy is.

Maybe I'd keep Lewis but Zorn is a turd bag of a coach. Great guy but he coaches like a pussy.

[closg00]

Disgraceful no-call on the last play for the Skins, obvious roughing the quarterback.

[WizStorm]

People are not going to like what I say, but...I'd keep the coaching staff the way it is for next season.

I'd also keep Campbell, at least for a year. This whole thing with Sherman Lewis/Sherman Smith/Jim Zorn seems to be working. Our offense actually moves the ball now.

I think if you keep Campbell, they should just draft the top o-linemen they can find in the draft and start him right away. Seems to have worked with Oher in Baltimore. I'd also make changes, i.e. like trading or releasing Portis, etc.

Uggg ... Me thinks that your standards have just dropped considerably by watching this wretched team. The past 2 weeks were basically gift wrapped victories that the coaching staff and players found ways to lose.

[Rafael122]

I haven't watched a full game in weeks. I've just caught glimpses and liked what I saw. :-/

[mohammed10]

Shouldn't the title of this thread be changed to "To he** with the Redskins"?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Disgraceful no-call on the last play for the Skins, obvious roughing the quarterback.

It was disgraceful.

I thought the Skins, for the second week, played good football but lost at the end.

[LyricalRico]

The improved play calling and the lack of Portis' personality have rejuvenated the offense. Cooley is also looking expendable with Davis steadily improving. I say we trade both of them, along with Landry, for whatever picks we can get to rebuild the offensive line.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

People are not going to like what I say, but...I'd keep the coaching staff the way it is for next season.

I'd also keep Campbell, at least for a year. This whole thing with Sherman Lewis/Sherman Smith/Jim Zorn seems to be working. Our offense actually moves the ball now.

I think if you keep Campbell, they should just draft the top o-linemen they can find in the draft and start him right away. Seems to have worked with Oher in Baltimore. I'd also make changes, i.e. like trading or releasing Portis, etc.

+1

The last three games this is a completely different team. I like what I'm seeing. I think for next season they need to build off this season. They should keep continuity between Jason Campbell and the young receivers. Davis, Kelly, and Devin Thomas should all be even better next season.

Speaking of Oher in Baltimore, Raf, I just saw "The Blind Side". Terrific flick. All time great terrific as far as I'm concerned. About Oher's struggle to get where he is today.

The changes I think the Skins need to make are to draft offensive lineman and running backs. LR, I think you're right about Portis and Cooley. Landry at least hits hard. I don't see enough Skins games out here, but from what I gather dude's a hothead who makes some mistakes out there.

[verbal8]

The improved play calling and the lack of Portis' personality have rejuvenated the offense. Cooley is also looking expendable with Davis steadily improving. I say we trade both of them, along with Landry, for whatever picks we can get to rebuild the offensive line.

Given how quickly most RBs decline, I think trading Portis could be a good idea. If they don't get a good offer for him, they need to revamp the O-Line and see what he has left. Down the road, at some point they will likely even need to consider cutting him. Whatever the Skins do with Portis, they need to get a young RB with feature back potential. The back-ups(Rock and Betts) are 30.

However I think with Cooley's injury it will be hard to get much in return for him. Also I think he could fill in at FB for Sellers.

[WizStorm]

Zorn is still completely way over his head as the man in charge. Amazing to me that a couple of close losses (LOSSES) has people back on his bandwagon. A big reason we're losing these winnable games is because of the tentative decisions Zorn is making when it matters.

Does anybody really think that Zorn controls the sidelines and instills confidence in the team?
Does anybody have confidence in Zorn that he's making the right decisions and isn't there just playing not to lose?

When I see Zorn on the sidelines, I certainly don't see a head coach that is taking charge of the team. Instead what I see is a deer in headlights that has too many people yelling in his ear and is indecisive, especially under pressure. The whole coaching staff needs to go and needs to be rebuilt where the new coach has the final say of EVERYBODY on his staff. Of course, new players, new GM and a new Owner wouldn't hurt as well.

[Kanyewest]

The improved play calling and the lack of Portis' personality have rejuvenated the offense. Cooley is also looking expendable with Davis steadily improving. I say we trade both of them, along with Landry, for whatever picks we can get to rebuild the offensive line.

Didn't the Redskins only have 6 points the last week. The absence of Portis has nothing to do with Jason Campbell getting his act together. I will say though that Portis's days a primary ball carrier are over; he would do MUCH better with 10-15 carries per game.

[Kanyewest]

Zorn is still completely way over his head as the man in charge. Amazing to me that a couple of close losses (LOSSES) has people back on his bandwagon.

Yup, Zorn's clock management has been horrific. For instance, he didn't call timeouts to close out the 1st half which would have allowed the Redskins more time to complete a drive in a two minute offense.

But Zorn doesn't look as bad with guys like Thomas, Kelley, and Fred Davis making a play or two. Ultimately, the downfall of Jim Zorn has been Campbell, those two interceptions to close out the first half were absolutely horrible, and the lack of an offensive line. Ideally, I would like to see what Zorn could do with a hand picked QB (sorry Colt Brennan doesn't count) rather than QBs from the previous regime (Campbell and Collins).

And our offensive line is not just not that good, not from a lack of talent but because injuries and a lack of depth.

But during the last two games, the Redskins look like they have pieces to put it together. If the Redskins are going to get rid of Zorn, they might as well get rid of Campbell since it'll be too complicated for him to learn a new offensive system.

[pancakes3]

as far as using cooley goes, i'm a firm believer that a good coach creates a playbook to fit his players, not trade for players to fit his playbook. cooley's still our best tight end despite the emergence of fred davis. trading him for a 3rd rounder (i can't see us getting a 2nd rounder for him) would probably not get us equal value back.

we can definitely work in cooley and davis both into the offense. we used to use cooley as an Hback, and this is an opportunity for him go to back to gibbs's formation. i also remember thinking that fred davis meant us running a lot of 2 tight end sets, and mixing in kelly/thomas as the B receiver. with 2 TEs or the H-back formation we can run stretch plays, which circumvents our OL woes.

i don't know how much we'd get back for portis either. he'll be 29 next season and dangerously close to wearing out. i'd be surprised if we got a 2nd rounder for him. i think betts/cartwright would be effective for another 2 seasons since they have seen VERY limited carries despite being 30.

whatever we do we should use our high picks for OLinemen. there's no more putting it off. we can use a 5th/6th rounder for a RB as a stopgap or even scour the waivers but our priority is NOT RB at this point. we can wait a season before spending a top pick on RB or even QB but building a young line that gels for the next 7-10 years has to start NOW.

[no D in Hibachi]

cooley's still our best tight end despite the emergence of fred davis. trading him for a 3rd rounder (i can't see us getting a 2nd rounder for him) would probably not get us equal value back.

I don't know X's and O's of football real well so if my comment is lunacy please correct my way of thinking. That said, wasn't Cooley drafted as an H-Back? What would be the crime in putting Cooley as the H-Back/Full-Back and keeping Fred Davis as the starting TE? Cooley isn't an idiot and is a gritty player so I think he'd work as a full-back type player and be a great pass catcher out of the back field. I think that'd fit his skill better since he isn't the down the seem type of TE. He's more of a screen play TE.

[pancakes3]

an h-back started out as nothing more than a full back lining up wider to help double-team defensive ends. i think cooley's ability to catch the ball would be wasted if he was moved back to a "true h-back" position. i like the idea of the double-tight set with both davis and cooley out there. campbell seems more comfortable passing to big targets like the TE than finding Moss/Randle-el in tight fitting slant/option patterns.

i also don't think cooley is bad at running down the seam, it's just that Davis is taller (by like an inch or so) and would be better suited to run down the middle. cooley is still at his best at running drags and other crossing patterns that exploit space in the middle and not be relegated to running outs and flares.

what my point is, that given our roster, zorn has a lot of room to adjust and not necessarily stick to WCO formations. we can overload, we can come out with only 1 receiver, 2 TE's, and 2 RBs, we can go full backfield, we can do some real smash mouth, old school stuff. in fact, given Campell's "weakness" and making checkdowns this would be probably a better use of the offense to pare down the playbook from 4 receivers down to 2-3. Peyton only works with 2-3 receivers most of the time. Not everyone has the vision of Brees or Brady.

[Rafael122]

Cooley seemed to do just fine in Gibbs' system. Cooley was asked to block more because our offensive line is horrible.

It really does look like slowly but surely last year's draft class is starting to contribute. Especially Fred Davis. That doesn't look like such a bad pick now.

I think if we have a chance to get Colt McCoy, we need to. You are going to hear Sam Bradford a lot, Jake Locker, Tim Tebow, but Colt McCoy will probably be a better pro QB than all of them. He's super accurate, has a strong arm, and he runs like a horse. The only problem is, we're gonna need extra picks this year to somehow solidify our offensive line, similar to what Atlanta did when they got their franchise QB and their left tackle in the first round.

[wermolwermol777]

I am very pleased with how Thomas and Davis seem to have come along lately. And Kelly had a pair of nice receptions last game also. As much as I am excited about Davis I'd still keep Cooley for the future.

Also I still think that rather than look for a QB next draft we should work on patching up our offensive line and possibly look for a RB in the later rounds.

I'm afraid Portis is done, but neither Betts nor Cartwright is the answer for us as no.1 RB, but I'll be fine with having some form of a committee of Runnung Backs for next season - we have more important things to take care of first.

As for Campbell - I think the chance of him staying with us is close to 0, but damn I'm sure he'll be very good wherever he ends up.

[lupin]

if it is an uncapped year Campbell will be an RFA. in that scenario he'd probably be back on a 1-3 year deal unless The Brains Trust decided they did want him gone.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Skins will beat the Saints.

I'll say the Skins win big: 31-13