Just say no to Peyton!

Post #1 » by **Zonkerbl** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 1:30 pm

OMG. It's happening again. Some big name guy is available and SNYDER MUST PAY WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET HIM. GIVE INDIANA ALL OUR DRAFT PICKS.

NO! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! The dude's got a frickin neck injury!

Illuminaire · Post #2 » by **Illuminaire** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 4:47 pm

If trading ALL our draft picks to put a shaky, barely repaired Peyton Manning behind a leaky offensive line would finally shame Snyder so much as to make him sell the team... I say go for it.

Otherwise....GRAAAAAAAAH!

sashae · Post #3 » by **sashae** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 6:11 pm

Is there such a thing as a really well-managed franchise in the DC area (outside of the Ravens?)

Ye gods.

Post #4 » by **LyricalRico** » Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:57 pm

FYI - This would not involve a trade. Indy has to pay Manning something like $28M if he's on their roster beyond some date in March. Nobody is going to trade for that contract, so they'll have to release him. That means that the only thing Peyton would cost is Snyder's $$$, which I don't care anything about. And even with the contract, they could structure is so they can get out of it if he can't play.

I wouldn't mind them taking a shot on Manning, along with Reggie Wayne (who will also be a FA). Then they can take a RT with their first round pick (perhaps after trading down) and a QB of the future in the second. And if Peyton can't play, throw the young kid to the wolves.

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #5 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:00 am

LyricalRico wrote:FYI - This would not involve a trade. Indy has to pay Manning something like $28M if he's on their roster beyond some date in March. Nobody is going to trade for that contract, so they'll have to release him. That means that the only thing Peyton would cost is Snyder's $$$, which I don't care anything about. And even with the contract, they could structure is so they can get out of it if he can't play.

I wouldn't mind them taking a shot on Manning, along with Reggie Wayne (who will also be a FA). Then they can take a RT with their first round pick (perhaps after trading down) and a QB of the future in the second. And if Peyton can't play, throw the young kid to the wolves.

Yeah Rico,

I've talked myself into this very scenario. Manning for Snyder's money, a rt in round one. Tannehill in round two... Wayne or Desean Jackson in free agency... And we'd have both a short and a long term plan.

Post #6 » by **Zonkerbl** » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:24 pm

As long as we don't give up any draft picks I'm all for signing him.

Post #7 » by **LyricalRico** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:47 pm

McNabb chimes on the Manning-to-DC discussion:

"Peyton’s not gonna go there," McNabb said recently on ESPN Radio’s John Thompson Show, via The Washington Post. "I don’t see Peyton ending up in Washington. Because what happens is now, you’re bringing in another veteran who will be 35, 36, who has been in one offense throughout his career. It’s the same situation.

"Now he comes over, and as they say now, Peyton is such an offensive coordinator on the offense. So now what does that do to your offensive coordinator? Does he step down? Does he step back? Does he begin to change the whole offense according to the play of the quarterback that he has in Peyton Manning? Well, I didn’t see that happen, so I definitely don’t see that happening for Peyton."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... line_stack

Post #8 » by **LyricalRico** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:54 pm

Also, an article with Chris Weinke (who had the same surgery as Manning):

Since September, both Manning and the Colts have been warned not to set timetables on recovery, which goes back to Weinke so strongly emphasizing the need for patience. But Weinke's rehab does provide an example of how quickly things can progress. After the November 1998 surgery, he couldn't grip a football. Five months later, when the Seminoles started spring ball, he participated and says he could throw "with purpose. And then at seven months, I was throwing the ball at 100 percent."

We know Manning was throwing in December, which means -- at least at that point, three months out of surgery -- he was ahead of Weinke then. The rehab process can flatten out and timetables are hard to come by, but the fact that he could throw a regular football then, according to Weinke, is a good sign.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8 ... o-recovery

At first glance, it sounds optimistic. But, as the article points out, Weinke was much younger than Manning. Also, it seems that Weinke only had to have 1 procedure (although I'm not 100% sure of that) while Peyton has had 4.

Post #9 » by **Rafael122** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:29 pm

Would rather put all my eggs in the RG 3 basket, start him Day 1 and go from there. Peyton carries too much risk. And the pundits are in love with the name Manning but refuse to discuss the medical stuff. It's "well he's Peyton Manning." Sure, at 25% of what he once was.

Post #10 » by **LyricalRico** » Thu Mar 1, 2012 8:18 pm

Brian Billick agrees that Manning and WAS are a poor fit:

As for the Redskins, I find it very hard to imagine Mike Shanahan and Peyton Manning coexisting. Shanahan runs a very scripted offense that is carefully pieced together throughout the course of the preparation week. Manning’s offense is very much fluid in the fact he calls plays in real time based on the look the defense is giving. These are two very different approaches, and because of that, I think the Redskins are better off trading up for Robert Griffin III, no matter the cost. Additionally, Manning knows his years are limited, and he wants to get back to the Super Bowl Playing in the highly competitive NFC East might not be the best path to get there.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyt ... nse-030112

He calls out Seattle, KC, and the Jets as teams that would be the best fits. I still say Arizona probably gives him the best chance to win. It would make the Kolb trade look even worse, but it's probably the right move for them.

Post #11 » by **LyricalRico** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 11:37 pm

It's official!

Peyton Manning's 14-year career as a member of the Indianapolis Colts is coming to an end.

Sources close to the team told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen that the announcement will come at a news conference in Indianapolis on Wednesday with both Manning and owner Jim Irsay in attendance.

The decision to pass on the $28 million bonus owed Manning and not to pick up the four remaining years on his contract means Manning will become a free agent, and sources told Mortensen that he intends to continue to play.

The article also had an update on his progress:

Several sources have told ESPN during the past month that Manning's throwing strength has dramatically improved as his nerves continue to regenerate following his latest neck surgery Sept. 8. Dr. Robert Watkins, who performed the single-level cervical fusion, has stated publicly that he has cleared Manning to resume his playing career.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/76538 ... -wednesday

Knighthonor · Post #12 » by **Knighthonor** » Wed Mar 7, 2012 8:01 pm

LyricalRico wrote:Brian Billick agrees that Manning and WAS are a poor fit:

As for the Redskins, I find it very hard to imagine Mike Shanahan and Peyton Manning coexisting. Shanahan runs a very scripted offense that is carefully pieced together throughout the course of the preparation week. Manning’s offense is very much fluid in the fact he calls plays in real time based on the look the defense is giving. These are two very different approaches, and because of that, I think the Redskins are better off trading up for Robert Griffin III, no matter the cost. Additionally, Manning knows his years are limited, and he wants to get back to the Super Bowl Playing in the highly competitive NFC East might not be the best path to get there.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/peyt ... nse-030112

He calls out Seattle, KC, and the Jets as teams that would be the best fits. I still say Arizona probably gives him the best chance to win. It would make the Kolb trade look even worse, but it's probably the right move for them.

Well maybe this is a key sign that the redskins need to change this area, to better themselves.

Post #13 » by **Rafael122** » Wed Mar 7, 2012 9:38 pm

I just want RG 3. If they sign Manning and get RG 3 in a trade up, I'm fine with that. I just don't want this team to get Peyton and then sign Grossman as a backup.

Post #14 » by **LyricalRico** » Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:16 pm

^ What about Peyton and a trade down for Tannehill where they get more picks in the process?

Post #15 » by **Rafael122** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:09 am

Risky because Tannehill might not last past the 10th pick.

Post #16 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:49 pm

It does seem bizarre that Tannehill is now considered a likely top 10 pick. I thought he was underrated during the season - when he was considered a 2nd round pick - at best. Now, he's so overrated. He really was not a consistent college QB, and his lack of experience is going to likely make him a very shakey QB in his first several NFL seasons. He's 2nd round material, imo.

verbal8 · Post #17 » by **verbal8** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:30 pm

I would put the Titans as the front runners for Manning at this point.

verbal8 · Post #18 » by **verbal8** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:05 pm

Manning will be signing with the Broncos. So this ends the "Where will Manning go" soap opera, but it starts the "What will happen to Tebow" one. Jacksonsville has been rumored to have a lot of interest. I think with the years and dollars Manning is getting, they have to move Tebow.

Post #19 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:36 pm

I wonder if there'd be Tebow to DC rumors if we hadn't made the trade to get RG3? Another reason to be thankful for RG3.

Post #20 » by **LyricalRico** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:52 pm

^ Ha! That would have been hilarious!

Speaking of hilarious - wouldn't it be funny if SF ended up with no starting QB? They slow walked the new deal they were supposedly ready to sign Alex Smith to. Then they got into the Manning sweepstakes, only to whiff. Problem is, now Smith is negotiating a deal with Miami.