Official 2009 Offseason Moves Thread (Roster Update pg.3)

[spaceman_E]

Ok, well it's that time again and the Redskins face a lot of tough decisions.
We are old, expensive and not all that good. To boot, we only have 4 draft picks to improve with. I think it's time to blow this team up and start again. Obviously, Snyder would never allow a complete rebuild as he is too near-sighted, plus the fact that a lot of fans would revolt. But, it's the right thing to do and even if it's not completely done, it's time to purge our roster of a lot of dead weight.
So here is the rundown:

Cuts/Restructures.
From what I've read, we are about $10mil over the cap for next season already. So here is my list of cuts...
Griffin - While a good player and our best DL, he is too injury prone and expensive. He is also not young anymore and must go.
Springs - Again, still a productive player when healthy, but he makes over $6mil and after re-signing Deangelo, Shawn would be a luxury we can't afford behind Hall, Smoot and Rogers.
Marcus Washington - Broken record I know, but he misses 3 or 4 games ever year and is coming off injury the rest of the time. I think we save close to $5mil if we cut him.
Jason Taylor - A restructure is also a possibility but he has no long-term future here and we need to find a young DE this offseason anyways.
Jon Jansen - He never fully returned from his injury and is getting up there in age. Are we seeing a trend yet with all these old, broken down players we keep piling up? Restructured at the least, cutting him, if productive under the cap, is the better move.
Randle El - He is not the player we need opposite Santana and has been unproductive and expensive since we signed him. It's time to cut our losses and open up PT for Thomas and Kelley.
Casey Rabach - We don't really have a replacement for him, so a restructure seems more likely.
P Diddy - Coming off a lost season and not getting any younger. He will not be a full time starter next season and should be restructured accordingly.

That's a lot of guys and it shows how in flux our roster is going to be over the next couple years. Down the road we still have to worry about replacements for Fletcher, Samuels, Kendall, Thomas, and even Portis.

Free Agency:
If we can shed all those salaries with reasonable cap hits, I say we do it. In free agency I'd look to plug some holes on the cheap and if the right player is there(i.e. young and cheap), then sign him up but no more Deion Sanders' or Brandon Lloyd's. It would be great to go out and get Karlos Dansby and Housh, but that's not realistic. I WOULD look into a deal for Boldin but we don't even have a 2nd round pick to offer up for him. He is the red zone threat and possession receiver we need though.

Other than that, it would be nice to trade Betts and bring in Darren Sproles but it seems after his postseason he will be way too expensive for us. Ditto Dansby and Bertrand Berry from Arizona. Al Haynesworth is certainly talented enough to break the bank for, but I don't want him anywhere near my team after the head stomping act.

Draft:
Like I said in the other thread, I like Orakpo and some of the top Tackles, but I fear that most or all will be gone by the time we pick at 13. In that situation I would trade down about 10 spots and pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd. Draft OL and DL almost exclusively. If you can find a quality scat back who can return punts then that is nice. LB could also use some depth.

In the end, it seems this offseason is going to be more about shedding contracts than acquiring any big names. This rebuild has been a few years coming. Maybe the front office guys will actually listen for once.

[LyricalRico]

Here's an article that talks about what the Skins SHOULD do:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03850.html

Here's an article that goes position by position with possible moves:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03410.html

[LyricalRico]

Latest news...

Couldn't allow the day/night to pass without getting the full details of the new contracts for DE Andre Carter and WR Antwaan Randle El.

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As I noted before, the Skins, cap strapped again, save $4.4 million total against the 2009 cap with the two contracts.

Both these guys were among the 12 or so players who restructured their deals last February; Randle El's latest deal became effective 2/6/09, and Carter's came through this Wednesday. In both cases, the players will pocket in raw cash terms exactly what they would have in 2009 under their previous deals ($4.5 million for Carter - including his old roster bonus - and $4 million for Randle El). Only now most of it comes in the form of upfront, guaranteed money, via new signing bonuses.

Link to full contract details.

[spaceman_E]

It has begun. Marcus Washington cut, carter and randle el restructured, rumors that taylor will stay and phillip daniels will move to DT. Doesn't sound good for griffin and I still expect them to extend Taylor if they keep him, so that his cap hit is about cut in half.

[LyricalRico]

Read in one mock draft that the Skins could sign Haynesworth, which would solve A LOT of problems for us on the D-line. A tackle rotation of Haynesworth, Montgomery, Daniels, and Griffin all staying fresh will make Carter and Tayler that much more dangerous on the edges. We'd also be able to stop the run without run-blitzing, freeing up the linebackers to roam and hopefully get more sacks/turnovers.

[LyricalRico]

Let the overspending begin!

The Redskins reached an agreement Friday morning to keep cornerback DeAngelo Hall, and made him one of the highest paid cornerbacks in football.

Hall accepted a six-year $54 million deal that included $22.5 million in guarantees, giving the 25-year-old cornerback his second big payday in as many years.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3938727

Way too much IMO. Something like 5 years, $30M with $10M guaranteed (like what Randle El initially got) would have been more appropriate. This probably means they aren't going to get Haynesworth, which may be for the best if they can get a couple other guys. Maybe go after Canty and get Dockery back?

[Tony Montana]

Albert Hanyesworth is a done deal folks. SWEEEEEETTT

[LyricalRico]

First $54M for Hall and now another $100M for Haynesworth.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9271 ... l?MSNHPHMA

Did Danny get TARP money or something.

[Tony Montana]

i dont know how it was possible but hey i'm not complaining

[LyricalRico]

Hopefully Dockery will be next. If they do that and then use every draft pick they have on offensive linemen (maybe one on a LB), I'll call this a very successful offseason.

[Tony Montana]

They need an OL the most. Last year proved that we need to address that immediately

[spaceman_E]

Dockery in, Springs out.

I still expect to see Griffin let go once we secure our young FA dl.

[LyricalRico]

The Redskins released defensive end Jason Taylor today.

The team had wanted to add a clause to Taylor's contract that would have required him to participate in offseason workouts at Redskins Park for a bonus believed to be $500,000, team and league sources said. But Taylor declined to add that to the contract, the sources said, so the Redskins decided to part ways with him.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redski ... aylor.html

Sorry but I don't buy that this is over a half-a-mil workout clause. I thought they would have kept him now that they have a DT that will open things up for him. My guess is they wanted to restructure to spread the cash over a multi-year deal and Taylor didn't want to do that.

[standupwiz]

Al signed
Hall re-signed
Dockery signed back
Springs Cut
Taylor Cut

still got draft picks, albeit only 4. And now some modest cap room to add a couple pieces, hopefully bring D. Evan's back. If Kendall wants to take the vet minimum that's cool. We need an OT, young with upside. And a speed RB guy would be on my wish list too. Two LB's would be good too, one to replaces Washington, the other to back up Rocky if his knees don't hold up.

[LyricalRico]

Double Post

[LyricalRico]

Cutler to DC?

The Washington Redskins are among the leading candidates to pull off a deal for Cutler. The Redskins have a proven young quarterback in Jason Campbell and would meet the Broncos' preference of dealing Cutler outside their American Football Conference. The Redskins also have the No. 13 selection in this year's draft on April 25, one spot behind the Broncos.

The New York Jets also have been aggressive in their pursuit of Cutler. The Jets, who have extra picks in the third and fourth rounds, are better stocked for the upcoming draft than the Redskins, who don't have picks in the second and fourth round.

Four other National Football Conference teams — Tampa Bay, Chicago, Minnesota and Detroit — have previously expressed interest in Cutler.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_12040620

The article mentions that Skins as a possible frontrunner with an offer of Campbell and the #13. I'd say that's fair value if they rate Cutler as a Pro Bowl QB for the next 10 years. It's especially good value if they weren't planning on keeping Campbell. The Jets have more picks to offer but Denver reportedly doesn't want Cutler in the AFC.

The big problem is that the Skins don't have much in terms of picks or cash left to fill all of their other holes. They could make this move and still end up like Denver last year - Cutler throws for 4,000 yards but they still miss the playoffs. I'd still want them to make the deal, though. I actually think they almost have to make the deal if Denver is willing to take that offer.

(BTW - I'd feel pretty sorry for Jason Campbell to have to learn yet another offense. A move like this could be a potential career killer for him. But hey, that's the business.)

[Scabs304]

Cutler fits here well since he has already been running the west coast offense. I just think we might be aiming to high throwing in the 1st rounder. I think at most we can go is a 2nd rounder and Campbell. If we send the 1st I think sending Campbell too would be to much.

[Rafael122]

So who are we going to draft? We're just gonna be left with 3 picks? Really? REALLY?

I'm all for getting Cutler here. I'm more comfortable trading JC and next year's first for him though. I wouldn't be surprised if Denver traded our pick or their pick to get more picks in return, something that we should be doing.

[LyricalRico]

I'm all for getting Cutler here. I'm more comfortable trading JC and next year's first for him though.

That's an interesting thought. But with there being a new regime in Denver and coaches having such a short leash, I would think they'd want to get all the picks they can this season. Maybe we trade Campbell and the #13 for Cutler and a third? Maybe it's still not ideal but at least we get another pick to add some much needed depth.

[standupwiz]

this for a guy who threw 18 int's last year. I wouldn't give a first for him at all. how long is he locked up for? we still need a LB, RT,a young DE(unless they actually give rob jackson a shot), A Center to groom, a corner to compete with tryon, a punt returner, I would want a vet WR to replace thrash.

if this happens I'll write this season off, but it hasn't and it may very well won't so I'm not mad. yet