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Post#101 » by stan francisco » Tue Mar 4, 2025 4:37 am

The Laker Kid wrote:It doesn't feel right to have a player as good as Luka gifted to us out of thin air. It's just unfair and wrong. I cannot, in good conscience, accept the reality of it all. Still can't believe Luka is wearing a Lakers jersey.


They got the best PF in the game back, as well as an elite defender in Christie at age 21. Personally, I believe there is a chance that this trade made both teams better in the long term. In the short term, I do NOT want us to have to face the Mavs in the playoffs.

AD as a help defender 4 is a force like few in the league, let’s not kid ourselves. They got plenty back, maybe the best big defender in the game, and maybe a future POA impact defender, too, in Max. AD can drop 50 on any given night, and Christie’s offense is good, too.

So I don’t think it’s as lop sided a trade as everyone else does. Nico wouldn’t do it unless they wanted to get out of the Luka deal. Kidd wanted defense instead of Luka, and boy did he get it.
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Post#102 » by Impuniti » Tue Mar 4, 2025 4:48 am

stan francisco wrote:
The Laker Kid wrote:It doesn't feel right to have a player as good as Luka gifted to us out of thin air. It's just unfair and wrong. I cannot, in good conscience, accept the reality of it all. Still can't believe Luka is wearing a Lakers jersey.


They got the best PF in the game back, as well as an elite defender in Christie at age 21. Personally, I believe there is a chance that this trade made both teams better in the long term. In the short term, I do NOT want us to have to face the Mavs in the playoffs.

AD as a help defender 4 is a force like few in the league, let’s not kid ourselves. They got plenty back, maybe the best big defender in the game, and maybe a future POA impact defender, too, in Max. AD can drop 50 on any given night, and Christie’s offense is good, too.

So I don’t think it’s as lop sided a trade as everyone else does. Nico wouldn’t do it unless they wanted to get out of the Luka deal. Kidd wanted defense instead of Luka, and boy did he get it.

:lol:

Yeah absolutely. Mavs getting a guy that has injury history and is 32, as well as being a significantly worse player than 25 year old Luka definitely bodes well for the future of both franchises. :crazy:
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Post#103 » by stan francisco » Tue Mar 4, 2025 5:58 am

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stan francisco wrote:
The Laker Kid wrote:It doesn't feel right to have a player as good as Luka gifted to us out of thin air. It's just unfair and wrong. I cannot, in good conscience, accept the reality of it all. Still can't believe Luka is wearing a Lakers jersey.


They got the best PF in the game back, as well as an elite defender in Christie at age 21. Personally, I believe there is a chance that this trade made both teams better in the long term. In the short term, I do NOT want us to have to face the Mavs in the playoffs.

AD as a help defender 4 is a force like few in the league, let’s not kid ourselves. They got plenty back, maybe the best big defender in the game, and maybe a future POA impact defender, too, in Max. AD can drop 50 on any given night, and Christie’s offense is good, too.

So I don’t think it’s as lop sided a trade as everyone else does. Nico wouldn’t do it unless they wanted to get out of the Luka deal. Kidd wanted defense instead of Luka, and boy did he get it.

:lol:

Yeah absolutely. Mavs getting a guy that has injury history and is 32, as well as being a significantly worse player than 25 year old Luka definitely bodes well for the future of both franchises. :crazy:


Let’s see. A healthy AD at the four is a beast. Maybe you need to watch defense, and/or AD’s complete package two-way abilities. His injury report over the last two three years is better than most NBA players, not just Embiid’s FYI. Street clothes hasn’t been a thing for him here, just so that you know.

Let me clarify, short term (not including AD’s current injury) it’s good for Mavs, long term it’s obviously very good for the lakers.

How much the Mavs must’ve disliked Luka for them to give up on him? Yeah, there’s that, too. Not as lopsided as everyone says.
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Post#104 » by Bad Bart » Tue Mar 4, 2025 6:03 am

I think this run is a testament to how much better a team can get when it stops playing D'Angelo Russell significant minutes.
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Post#105 » by danfantastk32 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 7:18 am

I worry about the Lakers against the Celtics, Cavs, Denver, and of course OKC.

Still think OKC will win it all. But unlike a few months ago.....I don't think the Lakers are hopeless. We have a huge gap in size, but for whatever reason, we seem to be playing much better.

I think one of the bigger teams will figure out something, and exploit our lack of size in the playoffs. But you still gotta outscore Lebron and Luka. I no longer think the Lakers are out of any series. I give us a 15-20% chance. Not great...but it's something.
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Post#106 » by Bob8 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 7:38 am

stan francisco wrote:
Impuniti wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
They got the best PF in the game back, as well as an elite defender in Christie at age 21. Personally, I believe there is a chance that this trade made both teams better in the long term. In the short term, I do NOT want us to have to face the Mavs in the playoffs.

AD as a help defender 4 is a force like few in the league, let’s not kid ourselves. They got plenty back, maybe the best big defender in the game, and maybe a future POA impact defender, too, in Max. AD can drop 50 on any given night, and Christie’s offense is good, too.

So I don’t think it’s as lop sided a trade as everyone else does. Nico wouldn’t do it unless they wanted to get out of the Luka deal. Kidd wanted defense instead of Luka, and boy did he get it.

:lol:

Yeah absolutely. Mavs getting a guy that has injury history and is 32, as well as being a significantly worse player than 25 year old Luka definitely bodes well for the future of both franchises. :crazy:


Let’s see. A healthy AD at the four is a beast. Maybe you need to watch defense, and/or AD’s complete package two-way abilities. His injury report over the last two three years is better than most NBA players, not just Embiid’s FYI. Street clothes hasn’t been a thing for him here, just so that you know.

Let me clarify, short term (not including AD’s current injury) it’s good for Mavs, long term it’s obviously very good for the lakers.

How much the Mavs must’ve disliked Luka for them to give up on him? Yeah, there’s that, too. Not as lopsided as everyone says.


AD has played 60+ games only once in last 5 years. That's pretty bad and being 32 years old for sure doesn't help with injuries concerns.

How is the trade short term good for Mavs? They were in the Finals last year, and they won't make playoffs this year. That's a short term and long term disaster. People are acting like they were play-in team last year. Nico traded 25 years old superstar, the best scorer of the league, who led his team in the Finals, half a year later, because he's afraid of his conditioning, for a 32 years old player, who played more games than Luka only once in last 5 years, and that sounds logical to you? :lol: Mavs didn't need D in front court, they had 2 very good defensive Cs already. They basically traded for marginally better front court D, by losing the best half court creator in Nba. Kyrie is not Pg, he's mostly creating for himself.

There're 2 things you should ask yourself to see how stupid that trade was from Mavs perspective.

1. What is age difference?
2. How good were Mavs with Luka last year and how good were Lakers with AD, who had the first injury free season in a long time?

3rd question would be, if his D is that crucial, how is possible for Lakers to play better D without him and 3&D specialist Christie?

The only winner in this trade are Lakers, not only because they got 26 years old international superstar, but because they will get him for relatively cheap, because he won't be on supermax salary.
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Post#107 » by LakerPhan » Tue Mar 4, 2025 3:47 pm

17-4 and if they could have won those first two Luka games, they'd be 19-2!

Luka was out a month, injured, then the shock of the trade and having to move, a entire new LA life-style, which is also a shock, leaving a newly bought home, new team, new team mates, new arena, new locker room, the recent fires which effected a number of NBA people, the nagging feeling about the Mav's giving up on him, calling him fat and uncommitted, losing out on the biggest contract in NBA history, there are just so many DISTRACTIONS he has been facing..

It's fully understandable to me, why he is not the instant superstar he was, but given time to acclimate, I'm sure everything will be just fine...!
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Post#108 » by Impuniti » Tue Mar 4, 2025 4:04 pm

Bob8 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
Impuniti wrote: :lol:

Yeah absolutely. Mavs getting a guy that has injury history and is 32, as well as being a significantly worse player than 25 year old Luka definitely bodes well for the future of both franchises. :crazy:


Let’s see. A healthy AD at the four is a beast. Maybe you need to watch defense, and/or AD’s complete package two-way abilities. His injury report over the last two three years is better than most NBA players, not just Embiid’s FYI. Street clothes hasn’t been a thing for him here, just so that you know.

Let me clarify, short term (not including AD’s current injury) it’s good for Mavs, long term it’s obviously very good for the lakers.

How much the Mavs must’ve disliked Luka for them to give up on him? Yeah, there’s that, too. Not as lopsided as everyone says.


AD has played 60+ games only once in last 5 years. That's pretty bad and being 32 years old for sure doesn't help with injuries concerns.

How is the trade short term good for Mavs? They were in the Finals last year, and they won't make playoffs this year. That's a short term and long term disaster. People are acting like they were play-in team last year. Nico traded 25 years old superstar, the best scorer of the league, who led his team in the Finals, half a year later, because he's afraid of his conditioning, for a 32 years old player, who played more games than Luka only once in last 5 years, and that sounds logical to you? :lol: Mavs didn't need D in front court, they had 2 very good defensive Cs already. They basically traded for marginally better front court D, by losing the best half court creator in Nba. Kyrie is not Pg, he's mostly creating for himself.

There're 2 things you should ask yourself to see how stupid that trade was from Mavs perspective.

1. What is age difference?
2. How good were Mavs with Luka last year and how good were Lakers with AD, who had the first injury free season in a long time?

3rd question would be, if his D is that crucial, how is possible for Lakers to play better D without him and 3&D specialist Christie?

The only winner in this trade are Lakers, not only because they got 26 years old international superstar, but because they will get him for relatively cheap, because he won't be on supermax salary.

Another question is who is a more valuable player. Every single person that has a functioning brain will state that it's Luka by a big margin. They traded them essentially 1:1 and the Mavs GM only spoke to the Lakers removing his own bargaining power. This is such a dumb deal from one party that anything other than collusion is not feasible. No one is that dumb.

Lakers got a face of the league superstar at 25 years old who can play with superhuman Lebron for several more years. Props to Pelinka for taking advantage of the situation.
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Post#109 » by Bob8 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 4:43 pm

Impuniti wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
Let’s see. A healthy AD at the four is a beast. Maybe you need to watch defense, and/or AD’s complete package two-way abilities. His injury report over the last two three years is better than most NBA players, not just Embiid’s FYI. Street clothes hasn’t been a thing for him here, just so that you know.

Let me clarify, short term (not including AD’s current injury) it’s good for Mavs, long term it’s obviously very good for the lakers.

How much the Mavs must’ve disliked Luka for them to give up on him? Yeah, there’s that, too. Not as lopsided as everyone says.


AD has played 60+ games only once in last 5 years. That's pretty bad and being 32 years old for sure doesn't help with injuries concerns.

How is the trade short term good for Mavs? They were in the Finals last year, and they won't make playoffs this year. That's a short term and long term disaster. People are acting like they were play-in team last year. Nico traded 25 years old superstar, the best scorer of the league, who led his team in the Finals, half a year later, because he's afraid of his conditioning, for a 32 years old player, who played more games than Luka only once in last 5 years, and that sounds logical to you? :lol: Mavs didn't need D in front court, they had 2 very good defensive Cs already. They basically traded for marginally better front court D, by losing the best half court creator in Nba. Kyrie is not Pg, he's mostly creating for himself.

There're 2 things you should ask yourself to see how stupid that trade was from Mavs perspective.

1. What is age difference?
2. How good were Mavs with Luka last year and how good were Lakers with AD, who had the first injury free season in a long time?

3rd question would be, if his D is that crucial, how is possible for Lakers to play better D without him and 3&D specialist Christie?

The only winner in this trade are Lakers, not only because they got 26 years old international superstar, but because they will get him for relatively cheap, because he won't be on supermax salary.

Another question is who is a more valuable player. Every single person that has a functioning brain will state that it's Luka by a big margin. They traded them essentially 1:1 and the Mavs GM only spoke to the Lakers removing his own bargaining power. This is such a dumb deal from one party that anything other than collusion is not feasible. No one is that dumb.

Lakers got a face of the league superstar at 25 years old who can play with superhuman Lebron for several more years. Props to Pelinka for taking advantage of the situation.


Not only that they got superior player, who's 6 years younger. Jeanie Buss got international superstar, who is money machine.
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Post#110 » by Beethoven » Tue Mar 4, 2025 10:36 pm

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Post#111 » by tamaraw08 » Tue Mar 4, 2025 11:18 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:I worry about the Lakers against the Celtics, Cavs, Denver, and of course OKC.

Still think OKC will win it all. But unlike a few months ago.....I don't think the Lakers are hopeless. We have a huge gap in size, but for whatever reason, we seem to be playing much better.

I think one of the bigger teams will figure out something, and exploit our lack of size in the playoffs. But you still gotta outscore Lebron and Luka. I no longer think the Lakers are out of any series. I give us a 15-20% chance. Not great...but it's something.

I was really scared of a healthy Dallas team becuase I feel AD, Gafford can really wreak havoc inside but that Kyrie injury might have just sealed their fate.
I don't know about Boston's size because KP lurks too much in the perimeter but I worry about Cleveland's Mobley and
Allen, also Jokic and the 2 tall centers of OKC.
I just watched how UCLA's 7-3 Center just simply dominated the game with 6 offensive, 10 total rebs, 11 points and 3 blocks for just 16 mins.
It's very hard to stop huge guys like Jokic, Mobley, Allen etc, once they get the ball within 5 feet, either via entry passes or offensive rebounds.
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Post#112 » by stan francisco » Wed Mar 5, 2025 12:36 am

Bob8 wrote:
Impuniti wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
AD has played 60+ games only once in last 5 years. That's pretty bad and being 32 years old for sure doesn't help with injuries concerns.

How is the trade short term good for Mavs? They were in the Finals last year, and they won't make playoffs this year. That's a short term and long term disaster. People are acting like they were play-in team last year. Nico traded 25 years old superstar, the best scorer of the league, who led his team in the Finals, half a year later, because he's afraid of his conditioning, for a 32 years old player, who played more games than Luka only once in last 5 years, and that sounds logical to you? :lol: Mavs didn't need D in front court, they had 2 very good defensive Cs already. They basically traded for marginally better front court D, by losing the best half court creator in Nba. Kyrie is not Pg, he's mostly creating for himself.

There're 2 things you should ask yourself to see how stupid that trade was from Mavs perspective.

1. What is age difference?
2. How good were Mavs with Luka last year and how good were Lakers with AD, who had the first injury free season in a long time?

3rd question would be, if his D is that crucial, how is possible for Lakers to play better D without him and 3&D specialist Christie?

The only winner in this trade are Lakers, not only because they got 26 years old international superstar, but because they will get him for relatively cheap, because he won't be on supermax salary.

Another question is who is a more valuable player. Every single person that has a functioning brain will state that it's Luka by a big margin. They traded them essentially 1:1 and the Mavs GM only spoke to the Lakers removing his own bargaining power. This is such a dumb deal from one party that anything other than collusion is not feasible. No one is that dumb.

Lakers got a face of the league superstar at 25 years old who can play with superhuman Lebron for several more years. Props to Pelinka for taking advantage of the situation.


Not only that they got superior player, who's 6 years younger. Jeanie Buss got international superstar, who is money machine.


We didn’t call Nico. He called us. They must’ve really wanted him gone. There’s no arguing that.

The end.

Not sure why you’re here bitching at us. You should address the Adelson ownership group with all of your hurt emotions.
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Post#113 » by danfantastk32 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 5:07 am

stan francisco wrote:We didn’t call Nico. He called us. They must’ve really wanted him gone. There’s no arguing that.

The end.

Not sure why you’re here bitching at us. You should address the Adelson ownership group with all of your hurt emotions.


Agree. All we did was say "yes" to the offer put in front of us. I get that Dallas fans are pissed...but we here on the Lakers are kinda over it. If you still got things to say...prob aughta say it to Dallas ownership.
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Post#114 » by danfantastk32 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 5:14 am

tamaraw08 wrote: I was really scared of a healthy Dallas team becuase I feel AD, Gafford can really wreak havoc inside but that Kyrie injury might have just sealed their fate.
I don't know about Boston's size because KP lurks too much in the perimeter but I worry about Cleveland's Mobley and
Allen, also Jokic and the 2 tall centers of OKC.
I just watched how UCLA's 7-3 Center just simply dominated the game with 6 offensive, 10 total rebs, 11 points and 3 blocks for just 16 mins.
It's very hard to stop huge guys like Jokic, Mobley, Allen etc, once they get the ball within 5 feet, either via entry passes or offensive rebounds.


Yeah, I think I skipped Dallas because I'd read that Irving was out. As well....I don't know what's up with AD. If I were Dallas, I'd sit AD till next year, and get him as good as you can. Any surgeries needed....do them now.

I'm curious to see how we fair here. I do worry about Denver. Why wouldn't I? They've earned my respect till proven otherwise in a series. And I think OKC and Cavs are the top tier this season. Celtics are the lowest on my list...but they are defending champs.

I just don't see us out of any series now. We have a decent chance against anyone...IMO. And that's nice to feel. Do I think we'll win the title? Prob not. But CAN we?? Certainly. Looking forward to the postseason.
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Post#115 » by Bob8 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:25 am

stan francisco wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Impuniti wrote:Another question is who is a more valuable player. Every single person that has a functioning brain will state that it's Luka by a big margin. They traded them essentially 1:1 and the Mavs GM only spoke to the Lakers removing his own bargaining power. This is such a dumb deal from one party that anything other than collusion is not feasible. No one is that dumb.

Lakers got a face of the league superstar at 25 years old who can play with superhuman Lebron for several more years. Props to Pelinka for taking advantage of the situation.


Not only that they got superior player, who's 6 years younger. Jeanie Buss got international superstar, who is money machine.


We didn’t call Nico. He called us. They must’ve really wanted him gone. There’s no arguing that.

The end.

Not sure why you’re here bitching at us. You should address the Adelson ownership group with all of your hurt emotions.


Bitching at you? Saying that you got superior and younger player, who is international money machine for Jeanie? :lol:

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Post#116 » by xinxin » Wed Mar 5, 2025 1:02 pm

I like the fire coming from the lakers players..

When Knecht was fouled by Bruce Brown, I like how the Lakers reacted.. starting with Luka.. then Vando.. & Jemison..

you hurt our team mate, you have to deal with us .. that has “ I got your back “ written all over it.. great for team chemistry


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Post#117 » by Beethoven » Wed Mar 5, 2025 3:58 pm

19 - 4.
That is an 83% win rate. The ironic thing is the losses are all against subpar teams.

(one of the losses was against the clips. but they are a subpar team no? I consider them to be.
Take off the rose-tinted glasses; harden and simmons arent stars anymore. They are just run-of-the-mill nba players now. Their only real star right now is kawhi (but you know how he'll turn out end of april) .. perhaps zu and powell are getting there but theyre not going to get to all-star level)
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Post#118 » by stan francisco » Wed Mar 5, 2025 9:46 pm

Bob8 wrote:
stan francisco wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Not only that they got superior player, who's 6 years younger. Jeanie Buss got international superstar, who is money machine.


We didn’t call Nico. He called us. They must’ve really wanted him gone. There’s no arguing that.

The end.

Not sure why you’re here bitching at us. You should address the Adelson ownership group with all of your hurt emotions.


Bitching at you? Saying that you got superior and younger player, who is international money machine for Jeanie? :lol:

I have Lakers Nba league pass, watching all Luka's/Lakers games and enjoying them. ;)


There’s been a lot of haters here.

Me, too.
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Post#119 » by gailgoodrich » Thu Mar 6, 2025 9:42 am

stan francisco wrote:
The Laker Kid wrote:It doesn't feel right to have a player as good as Luka gifted to us out of thin air. It's just unfair and wrong. I cannot, in good conscience, accept the reality of it all. Still can't believe Luka is wearing a Lakers jersey.


They got the best PF in the game back, as well as an elite defender in Christie at age 21. Personally, I believe there is a chance that this trade made both teams better in the long term. In the short term, I do NOT want us to have to face the Mavs in the playoffs.

AD as a help defender 4 is a force like few in the league, let’s not kid ourselves. They got plenty back, maybe the best big defender in the game, and maybe a future POA impact defender, too, in Max. AD can drop 50 on any given night, and Christie’s offense is good, too.

So I don’t think it’s as lop sided a trade as everyone else does. Nico wouldn’t do it unless they wanted to get out of the Luka deal. Kidd wanted defense instead of Luka, and boy did he get it.

I love AD, but the only universe this isn't a lopsided trade is one where Luka walks in free agency.

AD's likely out for the season. He turns 33 next year. I'm sure he's got some very good basketball left in him, but the writing is on the wall. And Christie is nowhere near good enough to bridge the gap in value between a few years of AD in injury-prone decline and a generational superstar at 26 years old.
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Post#120 » by gailgoodrich » Thu Mar 6, 2025 9:44 am

Bad Bart wrote:I think this run is a testament to how much better a team can get when it stops playing D'Angelo Russell significant minutes.

I laughed, but really, it's probably a bigger testament to how good DFS and Vanderbilt are. They are transformative players when they're out there. Superstars in their roles.

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