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BREAKING NEWS: Kobe will play through torn ligament

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Post#121 » by kobe#8 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:28 pm

That Nicka wrote:Get the surgery I guess

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We can still make the playoffs without Kobe for 6 weeks :pray:


The west is **** strong this year, 4 losses in a row whe are out of the playoffs..
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Post#122 » by Tommy Trojan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:43 pm

kobe#8 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



The west is **** strong this year, 4 losses in a row whe are out of the playoffs..



Agree, for people saying Lakers can make the playoffs without Kobe, or we will be fine without Kobe for 6 weeks are out of their mind. Four freaking losses and your out of the damn playoff race. We might still make the playoffs, but it is not going to be easy as easy as some people are making it to be.

On the other hand, Kobe should go through with the surgery. I think if Kobe was sure the Lakers would make the playoffs, he would have gone with the surgery the day he learned about it.
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Post#123 » by hermes » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:59 pm

we know the west is going to be tough, be we have a deep talented team
i think they can at least keep us afloat and close enough to getting into the playoffs until everyone comes back
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Post#124 » by ChocolateThundr » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:13 pm

Of course the media wants Kobe to get surgery->lakers out of playoffs->media blames kobe of selfishness
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Post#125 » by semi-sentient » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:24 pm

Well, we've gone through the toughest part of our schedule, so all we really need to do is win the games we're supposed to win. Most of the teams we play will not have an answer for Gasol, and as long as Odom can step it up and everyone else plays up to their potential, we can make it through that stretch.

It's risky as hell though.

That said, what is the absolute earliest he can come back? Does he need the full 6 weeks? What if he comes back in 4, meaning he would only miss 3 weeks worth of games? Would playing with a partial cast be an option? I mean, Kobe DOES know how to use his left hand, and just having him on the court is a big lift for the rest of the team. He can still do plenty of damage with one hand, and we've managed to win games even with him shooting poorly just because of the attention he demands.

I don't know. This is a really crappy situation to be in.

How are all these other teams managing to stay so damn healthy? We have one injury prone team, that's for sure.
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Post#126 » by Sedale Threatt » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:43 pm

It's just something you're probably going to have to deal with at some point.

The Spurs haven't been healthy all season, KG is dealing with an abdominal strain that's probably going to be an issue for the remainder of the year, the Mavericks are missing Howard, Harris and Stackhouse, the Hornets were crippled last season....you can go on and on. It's just our turn -- again.

Guess we can look back and be thankful that injuries didn't prevent us from winning the three most recent championships.

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Post#127 » by semi-sentient » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:54 pm

^^^ Yeah, I remember that. We were robbed of another 'ship.

Regarding injuries this year, the problem isn't that other teams haven't had them, the problem is that we're at risk of losing multiple key pieces at once. At least some of those other top teams have had a player out here and there, but not really for any extended time. We've already lost Drew and Ariza for 8 weeks, now we stand to lose Kobe for 6, while both of those are out. Too many key pieces injured at once, which is really the downfall of any team that's looking to make a run. Like SA and others, we've had injuries here and there, but we've sustained a high level of play because we had other key pieces still in the lineup. Now, that's all in jeopardy if Kobe decides to get the surgery.
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Post#128 » by semi-sentient » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:56 pm

I'd add that if Boston lost either Pierce or Allen, then they'd be in the same boat as us. Likewise, if SA loses Ginboli (in addition to Parker), then are in the same situation.

Anytime you have 2 of your top 3 guns available still, your bound to continue playing well, as has been the case for SA and Boston. For us, losing Kobe would have been fine if Drew was still there, but we literally have no 2nd option if Kobe decides to listen to the advice he's been given.
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Post#129 » by kobe#8 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:10 am

semi-sentient wrote:Well, we've gone through the toughest part of our schedule, so all we really need to do is win the games we're supposed to win. Most of the teams we play will not have an answer for Gasol, and as long as Odom can step it up and everyone else plays up to their potential, we can make it through that stretch.

It's risky as hell though.

That said, what is the absolute earliest he can come back? Does he need the full 6 weeks? What if he comes back in 4, meaning he would only miss 3 weeks worth of games? Would playing with a partial cast be an option? I mean, Kobe DOES know how to use his left hand, and just having him on the court is a big lift for the rest of the team. He can still do plenty of damage with one hand, and we've managed to win games even with him shooting poorly just because of the attention he demands.

I don't know. This is a really crappy situation to be in.

How are all these other teams managing to stay so damn healthy? We have one injury prone team, that's for sure.


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Post#130 » by YiYaoYue » Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:39 am

we played close to under .500 teams when kobe was off (under 10 points)... there was also a statistics saying that when kobe was out the team's losing percentage was 20% greater... that puts us at .450 for 6 weeks... that is not going to help... if lakers were in the east then yea i would agree he needs to get surgery... but in the west... no kobe, no bynum, no ariza for long period of time = very little chance of playoffs.

However the major worry about this injury is how it will heal... there is a good chance that there will be some swelling and the finger may turn out a little deformed without early surgery... now if they can fix that and return it back into shape then I would rather try and go with it but definitely not let it go longer then after playoffs... no way should he play olympics... if the finger does become deformed it could take up to 4 months to get it back into correct shape and that means a good chunk of early season next year... we'll end up in miami's situation (except the part that we becoem the worst team)
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Post#131 » by LLcoleJ » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:52 am

Yahoo has an article with a video of Kobe at the All-Star game talking about playing the ASG and the season hurt.
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Post#132 » by alaskan34pac34 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:42 am

ric the kobe hater bucher said 99% of the players in the nba would of had surgery by now... they just all four trainers at the all star game said they wouldnt even let there players attempt to play in the all star game...lets give kobe some props on what hes doin here and if he decided to have surgery then we got to stay behind him and all support his decision no haters
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Post#133 » by Magz50 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:49 pm

semi-sentient wrote:I'd add that if Boston lost either Pierce or Allen, then they'd be in the same boat as us. Likewise, if SA loses Ginboli (in addition to Parker), then are in the same situation.

Anytime you have 2 of your top 3 guns available still, your bound to continue playing well, as has been the case for SA and Boston. For us, losing Kobe would have been fine if Drew was still there, but we literally have no 2nd option if Kobe decides to listen to the advice he's been given.


The Spurs have lost all three Parker, Manu and TD for stretches this season. Manu was out for around 8 games with a sprained finger, Duncan missed 5 games with a sprained ankle and Parker has been out for around 14 games with his heel problem. Add in Barry's injuries, we've had a tough year. Yet we're still right in the mix. The west is just so damn tough this year.

The Lakers can still make it without Kobe, let's not forget Pau was the number 1 option and carried Memphis to playoffs for years. The lakers schedule is alot easier than the rest of the west going forward so i think the Lakers can still make it in , even without kobe.

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