Dwight Howard Is A Freak

[LLcoleJ]

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Are you kidding? Kobe would have finished 3rd or 4th in this year's dunk contest.

Thats not what he said. Regardless, you continue to come here with a Kobe hate agenda. My advice? Stop

[TyCobb]

Anyone remember Lester Earl? What happened to that guy?

[DarkoMilicic]

This year's dunk contest was a joke. No wonder the NBA wants to remove the dunk contest from the All Star break. Years ago was fun watching the dunk contest, now it's just another show. I remember the dunks from Jordan, Nick, Webb, Nance those were the real dunks. Even when Kobe won his dunk contest those few years had pretty solid dunks also.

If this superman layup was few years I it would not have counted. The dunk contest was over from the beginning, they were sold on the "superman dunk" no matter what anyone else did would not have counted.

To Phil:

Is he not saying Dwight was basically HANDED the award?

[LLcoleJ]

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To Phil:

Is he not saying Dwight was basically HANDED the award?

Where does... "Kobe would beat Howard" in his statements? He said that HE feels his dunk was not a dunk. That is his opinion. You want to debate that? fine do it without using your standby Kobe hate. ..i.e. Kobe would have finished 3rd or 4th.... irrelevent to this discussion.

[Sedale Threatt]

Dude doesn't know Rule No. 1 of the Lakers board.

Don't Phuck with Phil.

[DarkoMilicic]

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Where does... "Kobe would beat Howard" in his statements? He said that HE feels his dunk was not a dunk. That is his opinion. You want to debate that? fine do it without using your standby Kobe hate. ..i.e. Kobe would have finished 3rd or 4th.... irrelevent to this discussion.

I'm just stating that he's saying Howard was awarded the win no matter what anyone else did while saying Kobe's dunk contest was decent. The dunks he did I'd say 10% of the league can do. The dunks Howard did might be replicated by a handful at most.

[LLcoleJ]

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I'm just stating that he's saying Howard was awarded the win no matter what anyone else did while saying Kobe's dunk contest was decent. The dunks he did I'd say 10% of the league can do. The dunks Howard did might be replicated by a handful at most.

No, you are just looking for an "in" to come here and remind us how you dont like Kobe.

His statements were about past dunk contests and he mentioned kobe and others.

Its his right to have an opinion on what Howards dunk was. Its yours to debate him.

Considering you only visit this board to remind us all on how much you dont like Kobe is enough for me to call you a troll.

You would be better served to address the posts and not make a straw man argument linked to Kobe because you hate him...... Oh and btw, I dont care if you dont like Kobe. I am actually glad you dont. I just dont care much for people with agendas.

[Sofa King]

Anyone remember Lester Earl? What happened to that guy?

No. Who?

[TyCobb]

A real, real, real nice dunker. http://youtube.com/watch?v=bamV1EjuCGg

[Chubby Chaser]

Dwight is definitely a freak.

[TheUrbanZealot]

Kemp was excellent, but Howard this season is having a better season than any of the Reignman's.

Yeah but you better have a major asterisk with this statement. As I indicated in my last post, Kemp played with basically 10 starters. Seattle's teams from 91-96 were THAT DEEP. He was playing with people like Gary Payton, Detlef Schremph, Kendall Gill, who- while all were in their prime, were sharing the stat sheets with him. Plus he had big men like Michael Cage (a notorious rebounder) and Sam Perkins who took shared some of the rebounding load. Plus he didn't get as many mins as Dwight Howard is getting.

The bottomline is Kemp's stats were UNDER-exaggerated because he had other players around him that he had to share the wealth with. Orlando, on the other hand, has ZERO rebounding help, and I mean ZERO. If Orlando had a Michael Cage (whom you probably have no idea of), I guarantee you Dwight Howard would be averaging no more than 9-10 rebs per game, if that much.

Even then, it's still moot point, because the primary premise of this discussion is about athleticism, which, Kemp has a heads up on.

I want you to go to basketball-reference.com. Check some of the stats for Seattle teams between 91-95. Look at the balance the team had, from mins, to points, to rebounds, etc. If Kemp was the one man inside show that Howard is now, with no elite hall of famer in Gary Payton (not to mention the other talent) playing with him, and was forced to help carry the inside presence, I could only imagine what type of numbers he would have put up...

[HeyIt'sMe]

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Yeah but you better have a major asterisk with this statement. As I indicated in my last post, Kemp played with basically 10 starters. Seattle's teams from 91-96 were THAT DEEP. He was playing with people like Gary Payton, Detlef Schremph, Kendall Gill, who- while all were in their prime, were sharing the stat sheets with him. Plus he had big men like Michael Cage (a notorious rebounder) and Sam Perkins who took shared some of the rebounding load. Plus he didn't get as many mins as Dwight Howard is getting.

The bottomline is Kemp's stats were UNDER-exaggerated because he had other players around him that he had to share the wealth with. Orlando, on the other hand, has ZERO rebounding help, and I mean ZERO. If Orlando had a Michael Cage (whom you probably have no idea of), I guarantee you Dwight Howard would be averaging no more than 9-10 rebs per game, if that much.

Even then, it's still moot point, because the primary premise of this discussion is about athleticism, which, Kemp has a heads up on.

I want you to go to basketball-reference.com. Check some of the stats for Seattle teams between 91-95. Look at the balance the team had, from mins, to points, to rebounds, etc. If Kemp was the one man inside show that Howard is now, with no elite hall of famer in Gary Payton (not to mention the other talent) playing with him, and was forced to help carry the inside presence, I could only imagine what type of numbers he would have put up...

Are you questioning my basketball knowledge by seriously asking me if I know who Michael Cage is? Come on, now, no need for the smart ass comment.

Howard gets a ton of rebounds because he's a great rebounder, period. The kid averaged 10 a game as a high school rookie for crying out loud. He's stronger (by a fairly wide margin) than Kemp, and longer and taller as well. When you add that with his ridiculous vertical, it's easy to see why he's a dominant rebounder.

Nobody is debating that Kemp is more athletic (he is), but what I'm arguing with you is who the better talent/player is. You make it sound like it's Kemp easily, and that isn't close to being the case.

[Slava]

A real, real, real nice dunker. http://youtube.com/watch?v=bamV1EjuCGg

Yeah he was supposedly better than Kobe at that point and he had offers to come into the NBA out of high school but he went to LSU and put on probation for illegally taking payments from pro teams, later went to KU IIRC and messed up by skipping practices and also violated a drug program doing substance abuse. [/career]

[snaquille oatmeal]

agendaless subplot point- Shaq no longer known or refered to as Superman in the NBA, anybody know a good tatoo removal place in Phoenix?

[Sedale Threatt]

RE Lester Earl, I was impressed with his clip, so I did a little searching on the Net. This is the best I could find regarding his whereabouts:

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/sep/ ... s_apology/

[kno]

agendaless subplot point- Shaq no longer known or refered to as Superman in the NBA, anybody know a good tatoo removal place in Phoenix?

Look for a home designer/remodeler/upholsterist while youre at it.

[ock]

dwight is unique in that he is an amazing physical specimen who will throw down in your face and then give you a million dollar smile as if you should thank him for displaying that power and agility.

that's a pure smile of enjoyment. how can anyone hate on him?

[TyCobb]

This is what makes Kobe's dunk on him so much more special.

[Gerald3Wallace]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NckvyZUFA9Q

where u at dwight??