The Shaq Trade...

Kreuk · Post #1 » by **Kreuk** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:04 am

in one way or another...

netted us...

Jordan Farmar (with the heat's first round pick)

Gasol (via Kwame via Caron)

and Bynum, thanks to that terrible first season...

not too shabby, when looking at how everyone felt that Mitch initially got throttled by Riles

Post #2 » by **kno** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:09 am

Wasnt it pretty much a fact that it wasnt done for the immediate times then, but for the future?

Its pretty much what everyone expected out of it.

dub81 · Post #3 » by **dub81** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:14 am

For real,

Why do we have to bring up Shaq 4 years later? We sound like a bunch of jealous ex-girlfriends.

Kreuk · Post #4 » by **Kreuk** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:16 am

i still love the fat aristotle

Kreuk · Post #5 » by **Kreuk** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:26 am

Kno wrote:Wasnt it pretty much a fact that it wasnt done for the immediate times then, but for the future?

no, because we took on brian grants contract...

teams that trade for the future trade for cap space and flexibility... when we traded shaq, we traded one capped-out situation for another.

YiYaoYue · Post #6 » by **YiYaoYue** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:28 am

forgot odom too... basically 3 starters and 7th man with many many years left for 1 dominant player now with a year or so till retirement.

Sofa King · Post #7 » by **Sofa King** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:33 am

This topic pops up every other week. :lol:

Post #8 » by **kno** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:36 am

Kobot wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

no, because we took on brian grants contract...

teams that trade for the future trade for cap space and flexibility... when we traded shaq, we traded one capped-out situation for another.

Umm, no.

We all knew Grant was going to provide tons off the books in the FUTURE.

It wasnt because Lakers wanted Grant's superior inside prescence, was it?

Remember all the " '06 offseason plans" or whatever they were?

Those were all possible though Grant's contract. Granted they didnt work out, they were planed for the future, and only possible through the Oneal deal.

It was/is pretty clear that Lakers were trading fr teh future. Anyone who says or thinks otherwise has to be pretty (Please Use More Appropriate Word) to do so IMO.

Post #9 » by **snaquille oatmeal** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 3:45 am

I think it was the 07-08 plan.

Dexmor · Post #10 » by **Dexmor** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 4:39 am

Its because we just got Gasol and Bynum just became a stud as did Farmar and what looked like one of the worst trade in history for us turned out to be the best trade in at least Laker history or one of them.
Not paying Shaq and trading him is something I thought was the obvious right move but so many "experts" said they were stupid for it. Now we have A dynasty in the making.

We got Bynum, Gasol, Odom, Farmar.

Post #11 » by **dockingsched** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 4:57 am

eh, u can't count bynum as part of the players that shaq brought. its not like the lakers were some horrible team the next season. they were like the 6th seed when rudy t quit and all the injuries hit. without that and the masterful tank job during the last 20 games, the lakers wouldn't have been in any position to draft bynum.

MAMBAEMD · Post #12 » by **MAMBAEMD** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 5:37 am

Shaq who?

pdub15 · Post #13 » by **pdub15** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:06 am

Who cares about Shaq. He is not wearing purple & gold nowso we shouldn't be talking about him unless we are playing the Suns. My7 concern is with the team's health and our team picking up their D. I'd rather be talking about how well Vlad played 2night against the Kings.

Dexmor · Post #14 » by **Dexmor** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:14 am

Yeah but if Shaq was there they would have never been in the lotto that year.

Post #15 » by **Slava** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:39 am

A top 10 pick was good but that doesn't erase the memories of a 35 win season.

Pau Gasol after 3 years is pretty good but that Butler for Kwame trade still hurts.

Do I need to mention that Brian Grant contract that almost crippled us had not been for the league amnesty rule?

Didn't 2 years of starting SMush at point hurt?

and how can anyone justify 3 seasons of disappointment, trade demands after the Shaq trade?

dub81 · Post #16 » by **dub81** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 11:56 am

The trade was still horrible.

Erik Eleven · Post #17 » by **Erik Eleven** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 5:54 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:I think it was the 07-08 plan.

I think so, too. Patience is a virtue. Many lessons should have been learned from the flow of events following the Shaq trade.

Speedlot · Post #18 » by **Speedlot** » Mon Apr 7, 2008 6:49 pm

My lakers tanking.. that's something I just can't forget.

Sigh

joe.linnen · Post #19 » by **joe.linnen** » Tue Apr 8, 2008 7:09 am

Lets look at our line up over the years:

2003-04
SF:George
PF:Malone
C:O'Neal
SG:Bryant
PG:Payton

2004-05
SF:Butler
PF:Odom
C:Mihm
SG:Bryant
PG:Atckins

2005-06
SF:Walton
PF:Odom
C:Brown
SG:Bryant
PG:Parker

2006-07
SF:Walton
PF:Odom
C:Brown
SG:Bryant
PG:Parker

2007-08
SF:Odom
PF:Gasol
C:Bynum
SG:Bryant
PG:Fisher

I'm very thinkful for the trade. The way it turned out, yeah I wished Dallas would have beaten Miami that year but oh well.
Bottom Line look at us now.

DEEP3CL · Post #20 » by **DEEP3CL** » Wed Apr 9, 2008 12:24 am

dub81 wrote:For real,

Why do we have to bring up Shaq 4 years later? We sound like a bunch of jealous ex-girlfriends.

Exactly..................its over with and done already. I'm quite sure everybody knows by now what we got by way of that trade directly or indirectly.

People its time to move on, players come and go weather we want them to or not.