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Post#21 » by kobeaki » Wed May 7, 2008 8:02 pm

Lava Rock Kid wrote:LMAO, Fisher and class does not belong in the same sentence.
I know fisher has been classy for you all but he kicked us Utah fans.

Fisher was traded to Utah, he at first refused to report. The GM had to go talk him into it. I wonder if their was a wink wink deal that Utah would release him after the first year.

Fisher also stated that he wasnt about to back somebody up. So they made him the starting 2 guard. And the jazz got killed all year last year by the Kobe, Mcgrady and the all the rest great 2 guards. You all saw how bad out 2 guard spot was lit up.

Fisher said he needed out so he could be with his family getting treatment in LA. He alluded to the fact that he would play for the Knicks or the Nets or he would sit out a year. Before he even was fully released he had an agreement with you guys.

Most people believed that LA must of had the same quality of medical care that NY has. But when we heard that his daughter was still going to NY every month for check ups. We knew it was a lie to get out of Utah.

I read where he lost money to leave utah, He walked out on his contract but signed an equally good one for you all.

While I wouldnt boo him, I just understand why the game fans might.

You guys would boo an opposing player that refused to play for you too.


im not saying you are one of them, but utah has about the most sore-loser fans in the league....about as classless as it gets...remember the finals with the bulls?

and i am a fan of sloane, and my ENTIRE family is mormon, and most of them live in utah, or la or vegas, but 80% in utah...

do you remember how you guys treated karl malone on his return and how utterly classless that was?

how about judging kobe bryants life mistakes...new testament anyone?

anyhoo...good luck next season.
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Post#22 » by Lava Rock Kid » Wed May 7, 2008 10:01 pm

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WHO CARES PART II


How pathetic are you. Why do you read this topic, let alone post on it if you dont care.
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Post#23 » by Lava Rock Kid » Wed May 7, 2008 10:02 pm

milesfides wrote:The misunderstood aspect of Fisher's leaving Utah for LA is that it was never fishy at all.

The procedure used on Tatum's eye was new, it was innovative - it was an alternative to removing the eye. The doctors who knew how to do this were in New York, at Memorial Sloan-Kettering.

One of the ex-colleagues of the surgeon who performed the surgery moved to Los Angeles.

Thus, there is a real, tangible medical advantage for Fisher and his daughter to be in Los Angeles. And every month, he takes Tatum to the children's hospital in Los Angeles to get a CT scan. Part of the treatment is to prevent the cancer from spreading, so they need to constantly monitor it.

That's no slight against the doctors in Utah, it's just that the specialists are located in just a few cities, including New York and Los Angeles.


How often does he still have to go back to NY?
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Post#24 » by Lava Rock Kid » Wed May 7, 2008 10:04 pm

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im not saying you are one of them, but utah has about the most sore-loser fans in the league....about as classless as it gets...remember the finals with the bulls?

and i am a fan of sloane, and my ENTIRE family is mormon, and most of them live in utah, or la or vegas, but 80% in utah...

do you remember how you guys treated karl malone on his return and how utterly classless that was?

how about judging kobe bryants life mistakes...new testament anyone?

anyhoo...good luck next season.


How did you all judge Shaq when he returned?
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Post#25 » by kobeaki » Wed May 7, 2008 10:28 pm

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How did you all judge Shaq when he returned?


hmmm good question, half the peeps blamed kobe for his departure and were very warm to him, and the other half knew that shaq was just as responsible for his leaving as anybody...

the difference is that shaq slammed the city on his way out, "crappy fans", "crappy owner", "bad coach"...etc, etc were all part of his little temper-tantrum...

me? i was hurt that he left us, i was pissed that he couldnt control "his" team...

the difference is that he was generally warmly greeted, and the laker organization did not play some absolutely classless and crass phony phone message over the p.a. during the introductions...

i still remember karls response to the owner of the jazz over that;

"what a coward". (paraphrasing)
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Post#26 » by TonyMontana » Wed May 7, 2008 11:07 pm

Lava Rock Kid wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
How pathetic are you.

Why am I pathetic , cause I dont care about what you and your fans think about Fish and his daughter ?
But thank you for your kind words anyways .



Lava Rock Kid wrote:-= original quote snipped =-Why do you read this topic, let alone post on it if you dont care.

Well IT IS ON OUR BOARD , and I AM A LAKER FAN .
Am I correct ?
And you are a Utah fan trying to convince us LAKER FANS about why your pathetic low life fan's over their in Utah dislike OUR FAVORITE PG D.Fish .

And as you have reed my post and our Mods post explaining to you the reasons why Fish took a 6 mil pay cut to come to LA to care for his child since we do have better doctor that only specialize for his daugthers issue , and it is closer to his home and friends and family .

Yet you keep on insisting that he came here for other reasons which you and your ignorant fans seem to be dwelling on since he left Utah.
Other than that I dont see any other reason for you to keep on trying to prove your side of the story or what the Utah Chicken Saw County Register wrote in Utah about Fish .
You know why ?
I honestly can say that nobody on this board really cares. So to sum it all up again .

WHO CARES PARTIII

We love D.Fish , and Im glad he came back to the LA , he was a Laker and he will always be a Laker .

COOL .......

Oh Ya please dont insult me again .
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Post#27 » by islander009 » Wed May 7, 2008 11:53 pm

Fish has great class and always have had the perfect image for the NBA. Despite what people say happened in Utah, he did what he had to do for his family first. not for basketball or money. Family is everyones top priority and for people to boo him at every game just shows their lack of respect for people. Would you leave your family for work? Fish has always shown class in every manner. Great to have this veteran back on the team.
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Post#28 » by kobeaki » Thu May 8, 2008 12:00 am

as i stated eariler, my family is all mormon, and i am not.

they very much have a you are with us or you are not mentality about them...

and that shows with their only professional sports team...
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Post#29 » by DanLanghiOwnsAll » Thu May 8, 2008 12:31 am

Fisher was a bum for the Warriors and the Jazz. When you suck for a former team you expect to be booed.
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Post#30 » by Danny Darko » Thu May 8, 2008 12:36 am

DanLanghiOwnsAll wrote:Fisher was a bum for the Warriors and the Jazz. When you suck for a former team you expect to be booed.


That's not the reason Utah booed him. Utah posters aren't even claiming that.
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Post#31 » by TonyMontana » Thu May 8, 2008 12:51 am

kobeaki wrote:as i stated eariler, my family is all mormon, and i am not.
they very much have a you are with us or you are not mentality about them...
and that shows with their only professional sports team...


To me , you are a human being , a creation of God .
I dont care what color , what race , who you worship .

As long as you respect me I respect you .
I have high morals ,class, ethics , and values .... YET Im a M.F who grew up in the hood and I took myself out of the hood , and everything I did , I did it for myself and family and I didnt **** anyone over to get where I am today .
If anything Im the on that got **** over by peps that I took in my life , peps I help , dropped $$$ on them , bought them cars helped them pay their rent . You know your so called friends.
Took my shirt off my back for them .

I take care of my family and that's probably one of the reason that Im single right now . I have been since I got back from the Army for 16 years .
I loved a girl for 6 years and I owned and operate my own company with my father ...........
When my company went down 4 years ago and I wasnt BALLIN like I was before and I could have left my family buisness to go work for BMW Corp starting at 120k a year , I choose not to .
My girl which happened to be my fiancee at that time , told me to leave my family buisness and go work for BMW.
A girl that I loved for 6 years I would have gave her my life , but when it came to my family .............What do you think my answer was to her ?
And she ended up cheating on me after 2 weeks with a **** Mortage Broker ................. :rofl: :rofl: . and I caught her .

Nothing can ever replace my Mother and my Father ... Nothing
I would rather go broke and hungry as long my Familys fine than to see my family suffer or hurt .
The end of this month will be 2 years since I left this Hooker , but you know what I own two companies now , and Im doing just fine .
Now look at Fishs decision .

People just dont get it .
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Post#32 » by milesfides » Thu May 8, 2008 5:55 am

^Tony, you're a stand up guy. You've got character.

Perhaps it takes that kind of person to appreciate what Derek Fisher did.
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Post#33 » by DarkoMilicic » Thu May 8, 2008 11:52 am

TonyMontana wrote:
kobeaki wrote:as i stated eariler, my family is all mormon, and i am not.
they very much have a you are with us or you are not mentality about them...
and that shows with their only professional sports team...


To me , you are a human being , a creation of God .
I dont care what color , what race , who you worship .

As long as you respect me I respect you .
I have high morals ,class, ethics , and values .... YET Im a M.F who grew up in the hood and I took myself out of the hood , and everything I did , I did it for myself and family and I didnt **** anyone over to get where I am today .
If anything Im the on that got **** over by peps that I took in my life , peps I help , dropped $$$ on them , bought them cars helped them pay their rent . You know your so called friends.
Took my shirt off my back for them .

I take care of my family and that's probably one of the reason that Im single right now . I have been since I got back from the Army for 16 years .
I loved a girl for 6 years and I owned and operate my own company with my father ...........
When my company went down 4 years ago and I wasnt BALLIN like I was before and I could have left my family buisness to go work for BMW Corp starting at 120k a year , I choose not to .
My girl which happened to be my fiancee at that time , told me to leave my family buisness and go work for BMW.
A girl that I loved for 6 years I would have gave her my life , but when it came to my family .............What do you think my answer was to her ?
And she ended up cheating on me after 2 weeks with a **** Mortage Broker ................. :rofl: :rofl: . and I caught her .

Nothing can ever replace my Mother and my Father ... Nothing
I would rather go broke and hungry as long my Familys fine than to see my family suffer or hurt .
The end of this month will be 2 years since I left this Hooker , but you know what I own two companies now , and Im doing just fine .
Now look at Fishs decision .

People just dont get it .


You could almost say the same (WHO CARES) about this life story of yours. And talking about classless fans, how about the way you treated a Jazz fun who is right? You think you have a right to talk because this is "your year"? You guys were taking it in the bummer the last 2 years...
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Post#34 » by TonyMontana » Thu May 8, 2008 4:49 pm

DarkoMilicic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



You could almost say the same (WHO CARES) about this life story of yours. ...

Your right and I cant disagree , but if you noticed what I posted .
I posted my reasons that I can relate to Fishs issue when it came to his daughter , also if you notice as I posted this before .
This is the Lakers board so if Im a Laker fan and I post something on this board , I didnt post this on the Utah board .


DarkoMilicic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-And talking about classless fans, how about the way you treated a Jazz fun who is right? ...

Utah fans are classless , the entire world of basketball knows Utah fans are classless , this isnt something new .
Also I didnt come on your board and post " How Pathetic are you " your classless Utah buddy from your board did .
I simply posted WHO CARES cause I dont , this is a dead subject that only Utah fans like to resurrect everytime D.Fishes name comes up or the Lakers play the Jazz.
First of all , I posted WHO CARES as I will again post WHO CARES cause I dont care and Im sure I can speak on 99.9 % of the Lakers fan , that nobody cares what you or your fans have to say about , Why fisher left Utah ? I dont care ............. The only reason you guys are mad is simple , Fish came back to LA and he's tearing your Jazz apart piece by piece .
He is doing what you guys wished he would do in Utah , he is the leading point guard of LA Lakers the team you love to hate , and he's basically ripping your D.Williams if half , he has shut him down , he's coming thorugh bucket after bucket , and you know what ?
YOU GUYS are pissed .
So all you can do like every Jazz fan , is whine , complain , come up with every B.S about why he left Utah .

DarkoMilicic wrote:-= original quote snipped =-You think you have a right to talk because this is "your year"? You guys were taking it in the bummer the last 2 years...

Where in my post have I said anything about WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TALK CAUSE THIS IS OUR YEAR ?
Where ?
The reason I have the right to talk is simple .
I have a user name and I am a member of the Lakers board on realgm and this is The Lakers Board and Fish is a Laker .
Its that simple , also thank you for acknowledging that this is our year .
Me myself , I dont look that far in the future .
I only take the success of this team one game at a time.

Also , this is another classless remark by a classless Utah fan .

You guys were taking it in the bummer the last 2 years


Okay we have had a few bad years after our three peat , but if you Noticed I SAID 3Peat ...... Can you or your team say 3Peat ?
NO .
Can you say 14 titles ?
No .
Can you say Dynasty ?
NO

So as far as the Lakers Org. Ya we took three years or four years off but Were back , and we are better than what we were 2 or 3 years ago .
Yet you guys are 2 games away from getting swept again .

Time stands still when your in Utah , and we make changes and we make progress , while you guys just cry , whine and complain about everything , from the price of Gas , to Hilary Clinton , or why Fisher left Utah .............

Thanks for stopping by .

Good luck in Game 3 .
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