jordan farmar is suckin it up

[TommyTheCat]

fisher needs to keep out of foul trouble so the lakers can limit farmar's minutes.

[bballguru]

Wow... the dude is 21 and is slumping a bit. He's given solid minutes all season. Comparisons to smush are uncalled for. Keep positive and hope he plays a little better.

[Kilroy]

The mark of a truely great professional basketball player, or at least a player who has the potential to be great, is how they elevate their game in the post season...

It takes pride, determination, and skill to take it up a notch in the playoffs...

Farmar hasn't and the regular season really doesn't matter anymore...

He isn't just playing poorly, or missing shots... That might be a slump and be ok eventually... He's making really bad decisions...

He's shooting when he should pass, he's passing when he should shoot, he's loosing the ball, and he hasn't taken a whole lot of pride on D.

I think Farmar assumes that if he just makes some rediculous 3's he'll be the hero and won't have to play D.

Right now, Farmar is our biggest liability on both ends of the floor... That's saying something considering he plays with Radman...

[Danny Darko]

I've watched his passing accuracy go down all year too. Now his shot won't fall, he's not driving and probing, he doesn't look like a point guard, and he's looking slow. Tired.. maybe, but seriously he's not playing huge minutes he has no excuse for me.

Rad is pissing me off too. I'm just holding out that both return to form. I think Jordan plays better with a true second unit and gets himself psyched out when he has pressure situations with the 1st unit. Maybe Phil needs to take some shots in the media at him.

[Kilroy]

I think Jordan plays better with a true second unit and gets himself psyched out when he has pressure situations with the 1st unit. Maybe Phil needs to take some shots in the media at him.

I thought that might be the case at first to, but it seems like the one thing Farmar doesn't lack is Confidence... Judging from all the ill-advised, long-range threes he pulls the trigger on, I'd almost say he borders on Arrogance...

He does seem slow... But to me, it almost seems like he thinks he can sigle-handedly dictate the pace of the game... His pace... He seems to come in the game with the "Ok fellas, we're gonna slow it down a notch now" attitude, when the oppisite is needed.

I think the biggest dissapointment for me with Farmar and Radman both is the fact that even when they're having little or no effect on offense, they have little or no effect on D as well. I mean if you can't make the right pass, the right shot, or the right cut, at least get a stop or two... Farmar should be throwing himself after each loose ball like Fish or more so even, given how innefective he's been on the other end of the floor.

In OT last night, the ball got away from DWill and Farmar just watched it untill DWill gathered it up again.... He did NOTHING...

Deron Williams is a great PG but if Fish can stay in front of him Farmar ought to be able to at least do that too...

[milesfides]

I think Farmar is getting laid too often.
He just looks castrated out there.
The guy is just not ready for battle.
Where's all that pent-up energy and aggression?

The guy looks like Agassi after he married Brooke Shields.

Mickey: Women weaken legs!
-Rocky (1976)

[Danny Darko]

Wasn't there an issue between Farmar and Kobe too at one point earlier in the season? I think Farmar refused to pass for open looks a few times to Kobe for would-be dunks.

I think he is probably arrogant, but his shot sure looks like a lack of confidence right now.

I think Vlad needs to do another pre-game shoot-a-thon. That broke him out of his earlier shooting slump. I think his defense gets better when he's shooting well, which is the opposite of what you'd want if you had to sacrifice one or the other, but I do think he's either getting lots of touches or he starts dreaming of a Borat sequel.

[Tommy Trojan]

Wasn't there an issue between Farmar and Kobe too at one point earlier in the season? I think Farmar refused to pass for open looks a few times to Kobe for would-be dunks.
I think he is probably arrogant, but his shot sure looks like a lack of confidence right now.

I think Vlad needs to do another pre-game shoot-a-thon. That broke him out of his earlier shooting slump. I think his defense gets better when he's shooting well, which is the opposite of what you'd want if you had to sacrifice one or the other, but I do think he's either getting lots of touches or he starts dreaming of a Borat sequel.

I dont know about earlier in the season, but some of the Laker players had concerns about Farmars lack of passing and running the point position during the playoffs ... what i hear from espn

[MikeyMike]

Farmar, just get your head outta your azz and play some good ball, thanks.

[TruSkool]

crittenton>farmar

[Kilroy]

crittenton>farmar

I personally don't think that's quite true either...

Critt definately had way more upside, but he would have required a whole lot of training to develop into a suitable PG in our system. He needed to learn how to make the right pass for the Tri and defend well.

Our problem is that we either need a young PG that just was born to pass and run and offense like the Triangle, or we need a wiley vet that has the experience and has developed the skill-set we need.

Farmar is going in the opposite direction from that which is really frustrating at this point in our season.

Critt doesn't fit that either.

Given how LO has played this post season, and considering the depth we have at SF, I think we really need to look at a 1st or second option at the point this off-season.

UNLESS:
1. Lamar wants a massive paycheck (in that case he should be shipped for either an elite SF or a decent C)
2. Bynum is not recovering from his injury and we need a viable (on a contender) front-court presence
3. All of the above

[Gerald3Wallace]

crittenton>farmar

+1

hmm..when fisher is in foul trouble...critt on deron would be lovely

[Tommy Trojan]

crittenton>farmar

Sasha>Farmar

I would like to see almost all the min taken away from Farmar and given to Sasha.

And if Ariza is back he can get Sasha's min at the 2

[Erik Eleven]

Sasha>Farmar

I would like to see almost all the min taken away from Farmar and given to Sasha.

And if Ariza is back he can get Sasha's min at the 2

I'm down with that, until Farmar finds his head again.

[magicfan4life05]

Phil Jackson (Los Angeles): Don't tell anyone, but I keep playing Farmar against Williams so we can resign Farmar on the cheap this summer...man is he getting killed...

SportsNation John Hollinger: (4:15 PM ET ) Way to see a glass with one tiny piece of condensation on the rim as half-full. Farmar was great all regular season but has been unbelievably bad in this series, and I have no good explanation for why.

the great phil jackson

[MikeyMike]

I think Farmar played a lot better in game 5.

Still missed quite a few shots but he had that nice 3 point play, and overall I think his defense was much improved.

[Trifecta7]

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+1

hmm..when fisher is in foul trouble...critt on deron would be lovely

I don't think Critt would have helped this year. Rookie calls would bite him. Although he's taller, Deron still has a stocky body to beat him up.

The good news for Farmar is that he's still on the bench cheering for his teammates when they make plays. So he's not like Smush who only has a blank face most of the time.

The bad news is that his confidence is clearly shaken. It's similar to how Luke plays great when confident and subpar when he's not. You see him hesitating to take shots and they are off. Getting blocked inside when he used to convert some of them isn't helping the cause.

[madmaxmedia]

As a UCLA alum, I never liked Farmar that much to begin with. But I think the backlash has been a bit too much here.

He was never spectacular in my eyes, but can become a solid NBA PG. Deron Williams used him throughout the series, but he can do that to many, many point guards. Derek Fisher is one of the few guys both quick and strong enough to defend Deron 1-on-1. Most other guys need significant help. Farmar is not nearly strong enough, and hasn't learned enough to really have any clue how to stay in front of Deron, who is sort of a physical anomaly in this league.

Farmar is young and this was his first significant playoff PT, and it showed. But I don't think he should be completely written off because of it.

[MikeyMike]

Lets see how he does against Parker.

He's fast as hell, but he 's not anywhere near as strong as Deron.