Who will go to the finals in the West ?

[crazyeights]

Botched?

First off, it was a minimim of 8 weeks recovery. There was no surgery, just rehab. You either respond to rehab ar you do not. There was swelling that happened.

Secondly, by all accounts he was cleared by the Lakers enough to play- he just choose to get a second opinon from due to his family and agent thinking about long term. ( he has the right)

Had he wanted to come back , he probably could have. He choose to be safe, got a second opinion by a non-nba doctor and then after it was all said and done he had a minor surgery to clean up his knee cap.

Alot of players in this league and the history of the NBA have played with more pain and worse injuries than Bynum had. He just choose to make sure his future is secure.

You're focusing on a point I wasn't arguing, but I appreciate the mediation. I'm dispelling the notion that it was Bynum's second opinion caused him to be delayed. When he was already out for 18 weeks at that point.

[LLcoleJ]

Botched?

First off, it was a minimim of 8 weeks recovery. There was no surgery, just rehab. You either respond to rehab ar you do not. There was swelling that happened.

Secondly, by all accounts he was cleared by the Lakers enough to play- he just choose to get a second opinon from due to his family and agent thinking about long term. ( he has the right)

Had he wanted to come back , he probably could have. He choose to be safe, got a second opinion by a non-nba doctor and then after it was all said and done he had a minor surgery to clean up his knee cap.

Alot of players in this league and the history of the NBA have played with more pain and worse injuries than Bynum had. He just choose to make sure his future is secure.

You're focusing on a point I wasn't arguing, but I appreciate the mediation. I'm dispelling the notion that it was Bynum's second opinion caused him to be delayed. When he was already out for 18 weeks at that point.

Since we cant be privy to all the info that has been going on . On the surface his rehab was not going as planned and that was because of how his knee responded in connection to his actual injury. IIRC there were 2 "second opinons' and at atleast one of them was when the Lakers thought he was ready enough to play.

Not sure what the Lakers botched in this regard. The surgery was really after the fact and more of a clean up as he got ready for the offseason-training.

When you have an injury like this with a young player- you hope they can rehab quickly and get back under the " minimum" time frame. It just didnt work at that way - which is always a possibilty.

You say you are dispelling the notion that his 2nd opinion didnt cause a delay. From what has been reported; the Lakers could have cleared him to play had he not received a 2nd opinion , which was largely fuled by his agent and his family to protect that extension.

[crazyeights]

I don't get you guys...Bynum obviously wasn't comfortable playing. He was still having problems with that knee.

Do you want him to risk turning a full recovery injury into something much worse?

Enough with the demonization of Bynum and his agent. Let's just expect him to get the max in this extension and anything less we can say "Wayta go Mitch!"

And everything I was hearing out of the Lakers camp, from the beginning of that injury, was that they wanted Bynum to take his time. Why would they want him to do anything but that? Especially after we made the Pau trade? I don't feel this needs to be expounded on, but really I keep seeing this intense fear over his agent and family. He wants money. So does every single player on this team.

Ronny and Fish, probably the biggest standout guys on our roster last year, have both left the Lakers for more money.

It'll all work out.

[hermes]

i think this thread has gone to a bad place, everyone was just supposed to say lakers

[LLcoleJ]

Crazy- you are assuming that I am attacking Bynum here. It was what it was.. overall I was pleased with the season ( lower expectations to start the season) and I certainly didnt want Bynum to get back too soon.

I guess only he would know if he could have played and I am not bashing him for him going after the money. Its important in life.

my point is there is a lot more to the story than a "botched' job by the Lakers. There was a lot of stuff that went on from both sides and as long as he is healthy for the future then its all good.

[joe.linnen]

1. Lakers (62-20)
2. Hornets (59-23)
3. Rockets (57-25)
4. Jazz (54-28)
5. Spurs (51-31)
6. Suns (49-33)
7. Blazers (48-34)
8. Mavs (47-35)

1. Lakers (62-20)
2. Hornets (59-23)
3. Spurs (57-25)
4. Jazz (54-28)
5.Rockets (55-27)
6. Suns (49-33)
7. Blazers (48-34)
8. Mavs (47-35)

[crazyeights]

Crazy- you are assuming that I am attacking Bynum here. It was what it was.. overall I was pleased with the season ( lower expectations to start the season) and I certainly didnt want Bynum to get back too soon.

I guess only he would know if he could have played and I am not bashing him for him going after the money. Its important in life.

my point is there is a lot more to the story than a "botched' job by the Lakers. There was a lot of stuff that went on from both sides and as long as he is healthy for the future then its all good.

Yes, but the botched recovery was not really what I was trying to point out, it was merely semantics. Maybe a poor word choice, either way we'll never know exactly what went on.

I just found it funny when it was said that "if lakers can stay healthy (if bynum doesnt break a nail) they're set in the west."

If everyone else agrees with the notion that Bynum was dogging it, then fine I guess that's my problem. I was pointing out it's sort of pathetic the Lakers' biggest flaw was toughness...and so many are saying that Bynum is going to be the missing piece...

So, is Bynum soft or isn't he? I just thought it was ironic. That's all.

[is1531]

All the extra rest will help Bynum assist the Lakers to winning the conference finals. Bynum will prove he is a difference maker.

[daddyfivestar]

I don't get you guys...Bynum obviously wasn't comfortable playing. He was still having problems with that knee.

Do you want him to risk turning a full recovery injury into something much worse?

Enough with the demonization of Bynum and his agent. Let's just expect him to get the max in this extension and anything less we can say "Wayta go Mitch!"

And everything I was hearing out of the Lakers camp, from the beginning of that injury, was that they wanted Bynum to take his time. Why would they want him to do anything but that? Especially after we made the Pau trade? I don't feel this needs to be expounded on, but really I keep seeing this intense fear over his agent and family. He wants money. So does every single player on this team.

Ronny and Fish, probably the biggest standout guys on our roster last year, have both left the Lakers for more money.

It'll all work out.

Fish left? Damn, where have I been?

[joe.linnen]

I think that we will will the finals this year tho. I feel that its our time tho. we have Bynum and ariza back it our time. Gasol will be with us for a full year so its our year. On top of that Fisher is still our Point Guard, I don't know what the guy about was talking about. As you can see he isn't a Laker fan at all.


SF:Odom/Ariza/Walton
PF:Gasol/Powell/Radmanovic
C:Bynum/Mihm
SG:Bynum/Vujacic
PG:Fisher/Farmar/Yue

[stood-amire]

I don't think that Fish has left.