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LA TIMES: Odom doesn't want sixth-man role

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Re: LA TIMES: Odom doesn't want sixth-man role 

Post#41 » by Kilroy » Thu Oct 2, 2008 2:10 am

milesfides wrote:...


I agree with all of that. Our core is Bynum, Gasol, Kobe and all others are "pieces"...

I also think Odom is a short-timer with the Lakers... He may want to stay here but there's no way we can pay him and he's going to end up being such a small part of whatever success we enjoy that it just doesn't make sense for anybody to try to retain him...

I'm also not sold on the idea of him playing 'Point Forward' but it's what the staff keeps saying they want to try and I'd like to see it just for giggles...

The only point of my post was to say that perhapse an outside shot isn't that big a part of his playing a part on our starting rotation...

I think it is a huge part of whether or not he has a long-term roll on the team however...
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Re: LA TIMES: Odom doesn't want sixth-man role 

Post#42 » by Ballings7 » Thu Oct 2, 2008 5:49 am

Offensively, I don't quite like Odom starting for you guys, because his overall jumpshot has little to no credibility. Let alone his 3PT shot.

So, the most consistent spacing on the perimeter from the starters will be from Fisher, since Kobe is a better and more regular creation shooter, than a spot up shooter. And, then maybe Sasha if you guys go with the Kobe-Sasha wing duo to finish games like last season. Which I'd lean to happening.

But with Odom moving down to the three and back-up PF, combined with the Sasha-Kobe likelyhood, how will he like not finishing games when probably last years 2-3 final pairing in the line-up is continued? May just have to be a real team player.
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Re: LA TIMES: Odom doesn't want sixth-man role 

Post#43 » by Chubby Chaser » Thu Oct 2, 2008 8:48 am

Odom coming off the bench as a sixth man role is a HORRIBLE idea. Absolutely HORRIBLE. The role of a successful sixth man is that, once inserted, will bring instant energy, scoring, and infectious hustle to the game (i.e. Manu) A major key to our success last season was Sasha coming in off the bench as a sixth man. Sasha has that tough green light mentality and brings a lot of energy on the defensive end. If our offense looked flat to start the game, Phil would insert Sasha and he would come in and start firing away from behind the arc. And to his success, he would hit a good percentage of his three's. This is EXACTLY what we need from our sixth man. These requirements are not what Lamar brings to the table. Lamar likes to let the game come to him. He likes to feel out the game and score when situations present itself. He's a chemistry guy that gets everyone going and himself going later. Now if Lamar starts coming off the bench as the sixth man, he's going to feel pressured to look for his shot immediately once he gets in.These are not strong suits of Lamar's game. When Lamar forces the ball he commits a lot of charges, turnovers, and takes a lot of bad shots (3 pointers). IMO regarding Lamar, we either start him at the 3. Or if that doesn't work out we trade him before the deadline. I however think he'll work out just fine at the 3. He's played this position before and has had success with it. He'll still create mis matches for the opposing teams. He's a great passer and a chemistry guy. The chemistry that he and Pau had last season was a beautiful thing to watch and I do not want to mess with that. He's not selfish, and won't have any problems taking a backseat to Kobe, Pau, or Andrew. I think we're getting a little a head of ourselves by considering Lamar as the sixth man, or trying him at the point guard position. We'll be fine with Lamar at the 3. At the very least give the Odom, Pau, Bynum experiment a shot. Lamar's earned it. He's been here through the bad times after the Shaq trade. He's been the Laker's scape goat throughout the whole time. He's been heavily scrutinized by the media. He's taken it all in stride. After the loss to the Celtics you could tell in his interviews how furious he was. He's stuck with us through it all and should have an opportunity to play a significant role in our championship run this year.
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Re: LA TIMES: Odom doesn't want sixth-man role 

Post#44 » by supergallinari » Thu Oct 2, 2008 9:15 am

I hope Ariza starts. He's only 23 years old. Your team is good enough to be a top seed in the west while letting Ariza develop by giving him a lot of minutes.
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