OT: Iverson traded to detroit for Billups

[Patterns]

Makes sense that the Spurs are pushing for McDyess. I would love him here though.

[hermes]

ya the spurs don't have a great bench, so it makes sense they are after him


how much would it cost to bring mcdyess in?

[el loco]

Local reports here in San Antonio -- or at least, media speculation -- is that the Spurs will make a big push for McDyess if indeed he is let go.

I don't see us even considering it. We're trying to do everything we can to stay on top of our spiralling payroll. I like our roster pretty much as is.

This move could rejuvinate AI. But more than anything, I think the Pistons are just trying to strip their payroll down. Probably not a bad move on both ends -- take one more title run with a new face, then start the rebuilding process.

As for Denver, as much as I like Billups, he seems to have gotten pretty old pretty fast over the past year or so. Still a great player, no question, but I'm not sure I see him making a huge impact in terms of making the Nuggets a player in the crowded West.

This came from a local Denver paper a few minutes ago:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2 ... lups-deal/

There was talk the Nuggets might buy out the remainder of McDyess' contract and he could eventually return to the Pistons, but Rex Chapman, Denver's vice president of player personnel, said McDyess would stay with the team. It would mark McDyess' third tenure with the Nuggets.

[Danny Darko]

I believe McDyess would play for the pro-rated vet minimum, so most of $1,147,533.

[Erik Eleven]

^ As much as Zo, probably.

Iverson rolled his eyes when he was taken out of the game "too early". The vibes between the two seemed weird, but there was nothing tangible. Quite a few of us reacted to it during the game, though.

[el loco]

^ As much as Zo, probably.

Iverson rolled his eyes when he was taken out of the game "too early". The vibes between the two seemed weird, but there was nothing tangible. Quite a few of us reacted to it during the game, though.

I remember guys on here saying something was up and I felt the same way. I felt that way in the Jazz game and in our final few preseason games, but I didn't see it coming this fast.

[Bamboozled]

Normally this wouldnt be a big deal. However, you are posting this link to your blog on every board @ Realgm , and that is called Spamming.

Please stop

~ phil

[Luxury]

Lol I'm pretty sure we're not going to land McDyess.

[Slava]

Interesting move. As recently as last summer, Detroit were in serious discussions with the nuggets regarding a possible trade centered around Carmelo Anthony and Tay Prince and now they've landed the best player on Denver's team. Melo is typically a volume scorer but his efficiency was badly exposed on more than once occasion last season so if I were Denver, I'd really be wary of building around him. May be the presence of someone like Billups who seems a more mature leader than a brash AI would do some good to him.

Detroit on the other hand just freed up minutes for Maxiell and Amir Johnson and this was long expected but Stuckey's ability to handle full time PG duties is a bit of a surprise to me. He seems to be ready but not quite ready to be the lead guard on a contending team but if they do revitalize AI, they'll be a very different team to contend with in the East.

Another puzzling part is the 3 year extension that Rip Hamilton is rumored to get which doesn't quite fit with the cap space plan of letting both AI and Sheed expire.

[AceFresh]

Lol I'm pretty sure we're not going to land McDyess.

co-sign.

But it would be nice

[Me+_You-]

Denver needed a point guard badly, Billups is definitely a good point guard and he'll help that team out offensively and defensively, this trade also gives J.R Smith the opportunity to become the starting SG, Denver is very high on him. The bad thing about the trade is that there's no scoring off the bench now. McDyess is rumored to return to Detriot if bought out, if he happens to return to Detriot then its a great trade for Detriot. Both teams got what they want, I'm not sure if the trades will help either team out much but we'll see.

[The Rebel]

^ As much as Zo, probably.

Iverson rolled his eyes when he was taken out of the game "too early". The vibes between the two seemed weird, but there was nothing tangible. Quite a few of us reacted to it during the game, though.

I missed the eye roll but it does not surprise me. The fact of the matter is that AI looked horrible 95% of the time he has been on the court this year and needed to be benched for JR who has been extremely effective so far this year. So while many give Karl constant crap he was doing the right thing, and AI felt it was wrong. Nothing new there.

Interesting move. As recently as last summer, Detroit were in serious discussions with the nuggets regarding a possible trade centered around Carmelo Anthony and Tay Prince and now they've landed the best player on Denver's team.

While there has been confirmation that Detroit offered Billups and Prince for Melo, there has never been any hint that the Nuggets ever actually considered the deal. To make it sound as if it was almost a done deal is ludicrous. And the idea that AI was the best Nuggets player is also a falacy, his per minute stats actually put him at about the third best Nuggets player, and that is not counting the fact that he was by far the worst Nuggets player on defense.

Melo is typically a volume scorer but his efficiency was badly exposed on more than once occasion last season so if I were Denver, I'd really be wary of building around him. May be the presence of someone like Billups who seems a more mature leader than a brash AI would do some good to him.

Melo's biggest problem is that teams could just pack the lane and wait for him, so while he was often doubled covered there were also one or two more opponents waiting for him in the paint area. Having a team focus on stopping your game without any fear of your teammates will kill your efficiency.

Both AI, through his lack of a solid outside shot, and Camby through his camping at the elbow did not help that. This defense is something that goes back to 2005 when the Spurs started using it on him in the playoffs. With the addition of Billups who is a solid outside shooter, and moving JR into the starting lineup that should no longer be a problem, and I think many will be shocked at how much better Melo looks.

[The Rebel]

Denver needed a point guard badly, Billups is definitely a good point guard and he'll help that team out offensively and defensively, this trade also gives J.R Smith the opportunity to become the starting SG, Denver is very high on him. The bad thing about the trade is that there's no scoring off the bench now. McDyess is rumored to return to Detriot if bought out, if he happens to return to Detriot then its a great trade for Detriot. Both teams got what they want, I'm not sure if the trades will help either team out much but we'll see.

Denver still has Kleiza and Atkins to come off of the bench, both of whom can be very good scorers if given the touches they need.

[The Rebel]

^ As much as Zo, probably.

Iverson rolled his eyes when he was taken out of the game "too early". The vibes between the two seemed weird, but there was nothing tangible. Quite a few of us reacted to it during the game, though.

I missed the eye roll but it does not surprise me. The fact of the matter is that AI looked horrible 95% of the time he has been on the court this year and needed to be benched for JR who has been extremely effective so far this year. So while many give Karl constant crap he was doing the right thing, and AI felt it was wrong. Nothing new there.

Interesting move. As recently as last summer, Detroit were in serious discussions with the nuggets regarding a possible trade centered around Carmelo Anthony and Tay Prince and now they've landed the best player on Denver's team.

While there has been confirmation that Detroit offered Billups and Prince for Melo, there has never been any hint that the Nuggets ever actually considered the deal. To make it sound as if it was almost a done deal is ludicrous. And the idea that AI was the best Nuggets player is also a falacy, his per minute stats actually put him at about the third best Nuggets player, and that is not counting the fact that he was by far the worst Nuggets player on defense.

Melo is typically a volume scorer but his efficiency was badly exposed on more than once occasion last season so if I were Denver, I'd really be wary of building around him. May be the presence of someone like Billups who seems a more mature leader than a brash AI would do some good to him.

Melo's biggest problem is that teams could just pack the lane and wait for him, so while he was often doubled covered there were also one or two more opponents waiting for him in the paint area. Having a team focus on stopping your game without any fear of your teammates will kill your efficiency.

Both AI, through his lack of a solid outside shot, and Camby through his camping at the elbow did not help that. This defense is something that goes back to 2005 when the Spurs started using it on him in the playoffs. With the addition of Billups who is a solid outside shooter, and moving JR into the starting lineup that should no longer be a problem, and I think many will be shocked at how much better Melo looks.

[Mindflayer]

Melo's biggest problem is that teams could just pack the lane and wait for him, so while he was often doubled covered there were also one or two more opponents waiting for him in the paint area. Having a team focus on stopping your game without any fear of your teammates will kill your efficiency.

Both AI, through his lack of a solid outside shot, and Camby through his camping at the elbow did not help that. This defense is something that goes back to 2005 when the Spurs started using it on him in the playoffs. With the addition of Billups who is a solid outside shooter, and moving JR into the starting lineup that should no longer be a problem, and I think many will be shocked at how much better Melo looks.

That's exactly what I was thinking when I heard about the trade. I don't think AI works in Detriot's system so I assume they will tweak with it as the season goes on.