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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#81 » by TonyMontana » Wed Oct 7, 2009 4:05 pm

MAD MAV MAN wrote:
Kobe MVP wrote:he and his big mouth, this year the Lakers continues the tradition, owning the Mavs, he fears Ron guarding Dirk lol


Artest has been Dirk's bitch the last couple of years. That is not a concern. However, I do believe you should be concerned with Ron's ability to stop the movement of the ball on offense on a consistent basis. If you don't believe me, ask a Rocket fan.


Well we dont believe you, but can you do us a favor and go find one (Rocket fan) and bring him back here so we can confirm your story, cause I think your lying. Go, and Ill wait right here for you. Hurry since I can wait too long. :rofl: wait did I just post the samething three times??
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#82 » by Mahoney_jr » Wed Oct 7, 2009 4:19 pm

@TonyMontana
How often did you defend Kobe Bryant in the past as team player, when the Lakers weren't winning and he had to carry them on his shoulders from start to end of games? Now you switch roles and blast Dirk for doing all things Kobe did from 2004 to 2008. Dirk is hands down the better player. Pau may be a good fit for the Lakers as he defends the 5 spot better and blocks more shots as a help defender. So the benefit for switching Pau with Dirk on the Lakers might not be as high as comparing them for other rotations. But Dirk is hands down the better overall player. Every standard stat and advanced stat, team and individual stat will prove that. So keep it cool and be happy about Gasol on your team, who is a very fine player. I liked him since years and knew that the West would be **** when he came to LA. But better than Nowitzki? That's nonsense.
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#83 » by TonyMontana » Wed Oct 7, 2009 5:11 pm

Mahoney_jr wrote: @TonyMontana
How often did you defend Kobe Bryant in the past as team player, when the Lakers weren't winning and he had to carry them on his shoulders from start to end of games?

Brah, I never defended Kobe in general, I defend the Lakers and Kobe happens to be a Laker, so I would like to clear that part up since Im not a Kobe fan but a Laker fan.

Mahoney_jr wrote:Now you switch roles and blast Dirk for doing all things Kobe did from 2004 to 2008.

Now as far as blasting Dirk, the blasting part began when a Mavs fan decided to come on here and attack us with no facts and kept on insisting to take his words since he has watched Dirk destroy Pau and we need to accept his opinion with no facts, you know and I know that does fly here or anywhere else.
Also you know and I know that you cant compare what Kobe went through with the Lakers in that period of time, since Kobe didnt even have the supporting cast that Dirk did, NOT EVEN CLOSE.
So thats really a bad comperison.
Dirk had far more better supporting cast than we did in 05 06 and 07. As far as 08 season with our loss to the your Cs again we have covered that well over a million threads and posts and I really dont see a need to keep beating a dead horse.

Mahoney_jr wrote: Dirk is hands down the better player. Pau may be a good fit for the Lakers as he defends the 5 spot better and blocks more shots as a help defender.

Sure and nobody is denying that, if anything my reply to Billy Bob was that Pau makes his teammates better, he is a role player that compliments his teammates and makes his teammates better. Dirk isnt and he has never made his teammates better, if anything he cant lead his team and its very obvious since the Mav org. decided to part ways with D. Harris and gave up a lot to obatin J.Kidd. Why cause they lost faith in Dirk as a leader and they came to their senses that without a solid veteran like Kidd they will never achieve their goal of winning a title. AM I WRONG.


Mahoney_jr wrote: So the benefit for switching Pau with Dirk on the Lakers might not be as high as comparing them for other rotations. But Dirk is hands down the better overall player. Every standard stat and advanced stat, team and individual stat will prove that.


LMAO, Right and I agree, no where in my post did I say that as individual players Pau is better than Dirk. I never said or posted anything like that. I AGREE, but we are talking about a player that is suppose to be a leader (Dirk) which he isnt, he has failed many many many times. Even with allstar teammates like Steve Nash 2 time MVP, Mike Finley a solid vet that went on to win a chip with the SPurs, Josh Howard an allstar and Jason Kidd a vet leader that with solid playoff an finals an olympian with so much experience under his belt, D. Harris which is now hands down one of the best P.G in the E/C.

Lets look at the finals when the Mavs were up 2-0 lead in the 06 Finals, Dirk has gone 2-12 in the postseason: four straight losses to Miami, next year a five-game series loss to Warriors, and 08 five-game loss to N.O. He has three first-round losses, three second-round losses, and one NBA Finals arse whooping in his career. Clear enough.



Mahoney_jr wrote: So keep it cool and be happy about Gasol on your team, who is a very fine player. I liked him since years and knew that the West would be **** when he came to LA. But better than Nowitzki? That's nonsense.

Brah Im so cool, ice cubes are jealous of me. I dont need peps to tell me to be cool :wink: and I know you ment that in a good way, and Im glad that Pau did end up in LA, believe me I do. I think he was our main reason we were and will be successful.
I hope I cleared up the whole Dirk>Pau for you and others on here.
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#84 » by Danny Darko » Wed Oct 7, 2009 6:49 pm

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basketball is a team game you moron. you fail big time. you seem to have no lue whatsoever. that spain and lakers teams pau was on when he was so successful were killer from 1-8, not just at PF. with the mavs and germany it's been a completely different story. dirk in the finals with nobody else but terry lol howard and stackhouse. you need to stfu, you're going nowhere with that argumentation. I'll say it again Dirk >>>>>>> Pau. closed case blind homer. and now I'd still like the lakers to win it all if you don't mind.



I tune out for a second and you've gone from debate to personal attacks. I don't really care if you disagree with any of the views here, but now you're over the top and pushing you luck on trolling as well. Don't get me wrong... I'm not saying don't post. I like debate, but make sure you aren't starting a flame war with your comments
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#85 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Oct 9, 2009 1:10 pm

I left that behind. I'm not someone to blow up just like that. I felt really provoked by hannah montana and I checked the posts again. I'm a peaceful person, I will continue posting here peacefully as I always do. That guy wanted to have it that way period. I was probably the one to start the on-record namecalling and I'm sorry bout that but "brah" :roll: kindled it.

That's it from me on that matter, I'm through with that. Again, sorry Danny, I didn't mean you, I was kinda angry and got it confuesed. as for that montana guy, I still feel he is an arrogant provoking dude, but anyway. I'm cool with that
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#86 » by TonyMontana » Fri Oct 9, 2009 4:00 pm

basketboule wrote:I left that behind. I'm not someone to blow up just like that. I felt really provoked by hannah montana and I checked the posts again. I'm a peaceful person, I will continue posting here peacefully as I always do. That guy wanted to have it that way period. I was probably the one to start the on-record namecalling and I'm sorry bout that but "brah" :roll: kindled it.

That's it from me on that matter, I'm through with that. Again, sorry Danny, I didn't mean you, I was kinda angry and got it confuesed. as for that montana guy, I still feel he is an arrogant provoking dude, but anyway. I'm cool with that


Obviously you havent moved on since your still lingering here like some bad odor and your still calling people names. So I "RECKON" we move on, shall we "BRAH" ?
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#87 » by Danny Darko » Fri Oct 9, 2009 4:57 pm

Alright let's just agree to stop the snarky baiting on each and every side of the situation.

Back to the topic... I think Artest came out playing triangle ball perfectly in 1 preseason game... I know this does not equal a season of stability, but I'm encouraged.
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#88 » by TonyMontana » Fri Oct 9, 2009 6:06 pm

Danny Darko wrote:
Back to the topic... I think Artest came out playing triangle ball perfectly in 1 preseason game... I know this does not equal a season of stability, but I'm encouraged.

I agree, after the G.S game he sated that he has learned the triangle playing against the Lakers and that now he is running in the triangle against other teams. I loved his attitude and he doesnt care about being the focul point of the team. Props to R-Test and his attitude. I think he will do just fine.
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#89 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Oct 9, 2009 6:10 pm

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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#90 » by Mamba Venom » Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:43 am

Lakers happy Mavs got Cuban
Lakers are 22-3 in OT last 6 seasons:Kobe best OT closer!
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#91 » by Scorpion King » Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:34 pm

Can you imagine the press Lakers would get if Cuban was the owner. Lakers would championships every decade with his willingness to spend money to retain and attract talent. Buzz and company have come around lately. It would be fun to have a owner who will do anything to win championships ala George Steinbrenner (Yankees)
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#92 » by Mamba Venom » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:05 pm

Lakers are better off w/o Cuban who tries to GM and over spends on every player but Nash.
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#93 » by Patterns » Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:43 am

Mamba Venom wrote:Lakers are better off w/o Cuban who tries to GM and over spends on every player but Nash.

Can't argue with the results. The guy is a good owner, very good.
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#94 » by Slava » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:06 am

They had two great seasons and one good playoffs but neither won them a championship and I feel much better when the team owner is not getting in team huddles with the players. Cuban is a great guy but he needs to stop clinging onto his players.
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#95 » by Tekkenlaw » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:39 pm

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Mamba Venom wrote:Lakers are better off w/o Cuban who tries to GM and over spends on every player but Nash.

Can't argue with the results. The guy is a good owner, very good.
I'll take Buss if we're talking about getting results. He traded Harris and two 1sts for Kidd, ridiculous.
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#96 » by Kilroy » Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:36 am

How could you even compare Cumbun and the Buss family?

Cuban couldn't carry any of the Buss' jockstraps... Not even Jeanie's...

How many championships have the Buss' brought to LA? 9 with the Lakers (2 with the Sparks)

Cuban is a blowhard... No substance...

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Post#97 » by Ballings7 » Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:29 pm

Cuban's an idiot

Ron historically has always played well in general against Dallas, and when his teams have been good defensively (whether the teams were consistent or not), he slows down Dirk noticably. Cuban also forgets that Odom does an above-average job against Dirk as well.
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#98 » by Magicontinues » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:39 am

Tekkenlaw wrote:
Patterns wrote:
Mamba Venom wrote:Lakers are better off w/o Cuban who tries to GM and over spends on every player but Nash.

Can't argue with the results. The guy is a good owner, very good.
I'll take Buss if we're talking about getting results. He traded Harris and two 1sts for Kidd, ridiculous.


Exactly, results eh Patterns? :roll: :lol: That's a hoot. What results? I guess a few winning seasons is there kind of "results"

Sorry, Lakers kind of "results" is rings baby.
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#99 » by tkb » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:35 pm

Mavs are my dark horse team this year, but how Cuban can be happy that the biggest obstacle for his team winning a championship got a former DPOY cheap is strange to me. Jealousy much?

Cuban is a very good owner though. Got a lot of respect for his contributions.
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Re: Cuban happy Lakers got Artest 

Post#100 » by Sedale Threatt » Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:02 am

I remember him gloating over picking up Devean George after he strung a couple of decent games together. Like that was a huge loss...

It's just Cuban's style. He's a great owner in many ways, but he's also got a huge mouth and is exceedingly arrogant.

It's amazing the roof doesn't collapse through the gravitational pull of their collective egos when he and Phil are in the same arena.

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