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Post#41 » by TommyTheCat » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:02 pm

dcash4 wrote:bynum is going to have to develop his passing skills pretty soon. teams are starting to double team him pretty often, and he kinda panics. he dribbles away from the double, picks up his dribble, and passes it out to whoever is available. he isn't looking for open cutters, or spinning away from the double.

once he starts doing that, watch out all-nba team.


i thought he was doing a pretty good job of it last year preinjury. not saying he was an amazing passer but it thought he had a better feel for where his teammates were & were going to be. maybe it's a lack of confidence in his reads :dontknow:
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Post#42 » by dockingsched » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:41 pm

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dcash4 wrote:bynum is going to have to develop his passing skills pretty soon. teams are starting to double team him pretty often, and he kinda panics. he dribbles away from the double, picks up his dribble, and passes it out to whoever is available. he isn't looking for open cutters, or spinning away from the double.

once he starts doing that, watch out all-nba team.


I think it is due the fact that he hasn't played much organized ball before coming into the NBA. HIgh school basketball only teaches you so much and you already have the pressure to impress scouts and outplay recruits in the limited 30 or so games you have there.

Passing and finding cutters is more due to instinct for the game and knowing what the other wingmen would do when you have the ball in the post. It'll come to him with Kobe getting into his ear now and then or he can work on it with help from Kareem.


yeah, i agree with a lot of what you said. i'm not saying he should already possess the ability to pass from the double, im just saying thats his next step. thats what separates his post presence from pau's. he has plenty of time to get it down.


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i thought he was doing a pretty good job of it last year preinjury. not saying he was an amazing passer but it thought he had a better feel for where his teammates were & were going to be. maybe it's a lack of confidence in his reads :dontknow:


last yr he was never getting doubled as soon as he got the ball. this is a little different.
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Post#43 » by joe.linnen » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:35 am

Bynum is the real thing and I know he'll rule the leauge
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Post#44 » by Edrees » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:43 am

I have bynum on 3 fantasy teams and i'm reapin the rewards. And I got him like in the 5th round each league, what a steal.
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Post#45 » by Mamba Venom » Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:56 am

I can't wait to see this team fire on all cylinders.

I love how all the Free agency stuff is over and I can't wait for all the old vets that deserve a ring to come over for the minimum. I think Shaq is going to come knocking on the Lakers door this off-season as well as a vet pg.

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Post#46 » by Anklebreaker702 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:48 am

dcash4 wrote:bynum is going to have to develop his passing skills pretty soon. teams are starting to double team him pretty often, and he kinda panics. he dribbles away from the double, picks up his dribble, and passes it out to whoever is available. he isn't looking for open cutters, or spinning away from the double.

once he starts doing that, watch out all-nba team.
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Post#47 » by Kilroy » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:47 pm

dcash4 wrote:bynum is going to have to develop his passing skills pretty soon. teams are starting to double team him pretty often, and he kinda panics. he dribbles away from the double, picks up his dribble, and passes it out to whoever is available. he isn't looking for open cutters, or spinning away from the double.

once he starts doing that, watch out all-nba team.


I think he has the skills to pass the ball... I just don't think he's developed the feel for the game yet to react quickly to what's going on and get the ball where it needs to go...

It goes back to my comment about Gasol making Bynum look like he's forcing everything... After thinking more about it, I think that feeling comes from the fact that Gasol just instinctively knows where to dish the ball at this point and Bynum isn't quite there yet... He 'thinks' about where the ball needs to go and by the time he decides, that avenue has closed...

Professional basketball today is a game of split-second reactions. Make the right reactions, and the game flows and looks easy for you, fail to react or make the wrong reactions and everything grinds to a halt.

That just comes with experience though... He just needs to spend some more time on the court and get a better feel for the game... Then, he'll have more confidense in his decisions and be able to move the ball in the flow of the game... Instead of stopping the flow with a decision process...

I think he's just afraid to make the wrong decision.
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Post#48 » by Sedale Threatt » Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:05 pm

A lot of that comes down to pure instincts. Some guys have a natural feel for the game, some guys don't. Pau is one. I always felt Shaq and Olajuwon were instinctive passers, whereas guys like Ewing or Mourning were pretty terrible.

I haven't seen much from Andrew in this regard, or as a shot blocker (most of which he gets because he's so long and tall). Both of those could certainly improve with time, but it's never a guarantee. Look at Moses Malone, who played until he was 39 and was sub-par to poor in both areas.

What Andrew does do well is score the ball; he just has a natural gift for it. He's a also dominant rebounder when he wants to be. Those are great qualities to have as a starting center, especially one so young.
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Post#49 » by Mamba Venom » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:43 am

ESPN, Fox Sports & Yahoo are hating on Bynum in the stats department.

Go to ESPN, then clip NBA, then stats.

You should see an accurate top 5 of every player. Bynum should be on the list w/ his 11.2 rebs, 19.9 ppg, and 1.7 bpg. Bynum is the ONLY player I can think of not on the stats page. He is on fg%. When you click on complete leaders, it just skips right over Drew.

Whats up with that ESPN, FoxSports & Yahoo. Do all you guys use the same stats engine? There are guys on their that have played less games so that cant be it.
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Post#50 » by Mamba Venom » Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:47 am

Correction Bynum is on the blocks and fg& but it skips right over him for ppg & rebs even though Bynum is 2nd in the NBA in ppg for centers and 4th in the nba period for rebs.
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Post#51 » by s3antana5757 » Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:13 am

It's because he missed those few games. No big deal, he'll be there eventually.

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