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Game #48 Lakers @ Celtics 1/31/10 12:30 Pm PST on ABC

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Re: Game #48 Lakers @ Celtics 1/31/10 12:30 Pm PST on ABC 

Post#541 » by DEEP3CL » Mon Feb 1, 2010 3:44 am

Sedale Threatt wrote:Well, now would be the time to bump that thread. Pau was awful, and Andrew played like a full-grown man. He was our best player today, hands down.

I'm a huge Pau supporter, and even I would have been pissed had Andrew not played in the fourth. Frankly, he should have played the entire quarter. Oh well -- better late than never.
Nah Sedale, no need for that. Everybody had valid points in that thread but raking over it again is moot. On the other hand I didn't create it to prove a point neither, just from things I saw at the time. Thing is and semi-sentient mentioned this on the GB, he said if Pau and Drew could learn to dominate at the same time we'd be damn near unbeatable and we wouldn't have these trade rumors for other teams guards. And I totally agree.

As far as this game Drew just flat out refused to be punk'd or bullied by the Perkins or KG, he smashed their asses in the mouth with brute and forceful play. Which is all I'm asking from both Pau and Drew.
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Re: Game #48 Lakers @ Celtics 1/31/10 12:30 Pm PST on ABC 

Post#542 » by daddyfivestar » Mon Feb 1, 2010 3:56 am

Good call Crazy,
Shannon's 4th Q was killer. In the run that cut it from 11 to 2pt deficit (9 min mark 70-81 to 3 min mark 84-86) he had 6pts and a nice assist for Odom dunk off turnover fast break.
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Re: Game #48 Lakers @ Celtics 1/31/10 12:30 Pm PST on ABC 

Post#543 » by slifersd » Mon Feb 1, 2010 3:57 am

Sedale Threatt wrote:I do disagree with the blanket notion that Pau is too soft for ALL big games. He's played well in plenty of important spots, or have people already forgotten the Finals?

But nevermind that. Andrew was awesome today; he deserves all the love he's getting.


I for one never said that Gasol is soft in all big games, but you do have to admit that he has had his share of soft big games in the last couple of years. As good as he was in last year's finals, he was equally bad in the finals from two years ago. This particular season, he has been mediocre to say the best in most of the big games we have had. I am not hating on him (although I am trading him pretty soon in my 2k10), just stating the facts as i see them.
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Re: Game #48 Lakers @ Celtics 1/31/10 12:30 Pm PST on ABC 

Post#544 » by Sedale Threatt » Mon Feb 1, 2010 4:28 am

DEEP3CL wrote:Nah Sedale, no need for that. Everybody had valid points in that thread but raking over it again is moot. On the other hand I didn't create it to prove a point neither, just from things I saw at the time. Thing is and semi-sentient mentioned this on the GB, he said if Pau and Drew could learn to dominate at the same time we'd be damn near unbeatable and we wouldn't have these trade rumors for other teams guards. And I totally agree.

As far as this game Drew just flat out refused to be punk'd or bullied by the Perkins or KG, he smashed their asses in the mouth with brute and forceful play. Which is all I'm asking from both Pau and Drew.


It just dawned on me during the game that I misunderstood what you were getting at. We should have enough flexibility to change our approach as the situation dictates. Bynum was playing better in a game not suited for Pau's style, so we switched gears. It was a good move. We should have done it sooner.
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Re: Game #48 Lakers @ Celtics 1/31/10 12:30 Pm PST on ABC 

Post#545 » by Anklebreaker702 » Mon Feb 1, 2010 4:34 am

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slifersd wrote:I find it interesting that Gasol was benched in place of Bynum for large chunks of the crunch time. Could it be that Phil finally realized that Gasol is just too soft this season for these big games?

We can only hope & that is what DEEP3CL's thread was all about.



I also think Gasol had just a decent game.... I know his numbers were pretty good, but I saw him out of position on D a bit and I saw him getting pushed around quite a bit on both sides of the court. I think given the situation, I would have benched him too... Bynum was playing well and you can't let Gasol play while he's doing the same things Bynum constantly gets benched for.

Yeah that's what a lot posters have been saying for a long time. Pau & LO both tend to not get punished like Andrew
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Re: Game #48 Lakers @ Celtics 1/31/10 12:30 Pm PST on ABC 

Post#546 » by DEEP3CL » Mon Feb 1, 2010 6:09 am

Sedale Threatt wrote:
DEEP3CL wrote:Nah Sedale, no need for that. Everybody had valid points in that thread but raking over it again is moot. On the other hand I didn't create it to prove a point neither, just from things I saw at the time. Thing is and semi-sentient mentioned this on the GB, he said if Pau and Drew could learn to dominate at the same time we'd be damn near unbeatable and we wouldn't have these trade rumors for other teams guards. And I totally agree.

As far as this game Drew just flat out refused to be punk'd or bullied by the Perkins or KG, he smashed their asses in the mouth with brute and forceful play. Which is all I'm asking from both Pau and Drew.


It just dawned on me during the game that I misunderstood what you were getting at. We should have enough flexibility to change our approach as the situation dictates. Bynum was playing better in a game not suited for Pau's style, so we switched gears. It was a good move. We should have done it sooner.
That's all I was trying to get at, I felt we had enough versatility to adjust to whatever or however teams were going to play. And at the time of the thread it just seemed that Pau was physically out of sync, not that he was so banged up but just not there.

Teams like Boston and Cleveland will present a physical style that will be geared towards getting Pau out of whack by banging him. Bottom line is this.....if Drew goes like he went today then it works and we keep beating teams, and hopefully Pau finds himself along the way during the game. He was going good in that first quarter then the Celtics noticed that they had to get him out of rhythm quick or it would be total destruction for them. Remember Drew was also establishing his game against Perkins, and Pau was joining the act. In fact after he finished the layup Fish gave him, I can't remember much else that he did besides rebound.

Luckily Drew stayed "mentally in tune" to the game, but this much was clear he stood up to their front line guys and busted them up at will.
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Re: Game #48 Lakers @ Celtics 1/31/10 12:30 Pm PST on ABC 

Post#547 » by Mamba Venom » Mon Feb 1, 2010 11:20 am

I would like to see a stat called the ref effect that lets the average fan know how many points one team got off of nonsubjective calls (not missed fouls) but things like when the refs got it wrong and call the out of bounce on the wrong team, etc.

I counted 7 points the Celtics got off of calls that were called but the Lakers also got an extra opportunity when the shot clock didnt reset.

Not complaining about the officiating but it would be a cool stat, the NBA probably already tracks this with the refs for internal reviews
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Re: Game #48 Lakers @ Celtics 1/31/10 12:30 Pm PST on ABC 

Post#548 » by aroba » Mon Feb 1, 2010 1:26 pm

slifersd wrote:I find it interesting that Gasol was benched in place of Bynum for large chunks of the crunch time. Could it be that Phil finally realized that Gasol is just too soft this season for these big games?

That's BS.
Gasol outnumbered KG and Wallace in this game. Andrew just took good benefit of all the mutual respect those 3 had.
This was a game for Odom and Bynum, because kobe vs Allen, Artest vs Pierce and Pau vs KG/Sheed had all the attencion on the court.
Enough of that soft crap about Pau. This team wins with Pau and is havig mediocre results without him this season (go check the balance for further info)
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Re: Game #48 Lakers @ Celtics 1/31/10 12:30 Pm PST on ABC 

Post#549 » by daddyfivestar » Mon Feb 1, 2010 6:40 pm

On the "Calls", I figure the Pierce foul (minus 2 pts since he made the jumper if a no-call had occurred) just balanced out the plus 2 from the blown camera-touching-out-of-bounds where Allen go two FTs on the next/same possession.

Still came down to 2 stops - 1)Could Boston stop Kobe at 10 sec's? 2)Could LA stop the C's game winner.

Answer: 1)No; 2)Yes.
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Re: Game #48 Lakers @ Celtics 1/31/10 12:30 Pm PST on ABC 

Post#550 » by DubaLakers » Tue Feb 2, 2010 2:39 am

I'm convinced I can play better defense than half our team and I barely play anymore...play D jackass'. That game shouldn't have even been that close yesterday.

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