Top 10 reasons to Hate the KG/Pierce/Allen era Celtics

[Cqc_Nastyn8]

If you had to compile a list of the 10 moments/features that best define your hatred of the current era Celtics, what would they be?

Here is a list (roughly):

1.) And the Oscar goes to......

2.) "Another Win in LA!"

3.) The Game 2 Officiating Debacle

4.) Kevin Garnett shows his toughness against guys less than half his size

5.) Anything is POSSSSSSIIIBBBBBBLLLEEE!1!1!1!

6.) KG is TOUGH.............on the sideline

7.) Rat Face's Reaction to Every Foul He's Ever Committed

8.) Celtics: The best illegal screen setters there ever were

9.) Kevin Garnett tries to break Dwight Howard's arm.

10.) Brian Scalabrine talks as if he actually had anything to do with the NBA Finals after Game 6

Let me know if there's any moments that I'm blatantly missing and should switch with others.

[Percules]

Just an observation.. In every thread on this board there's an infinite hate for the Celtics, which is so funny. It seems like you're all scared of having your hopes crushed again.

[Cqc_Nastyn8]

^ naw I aint worried. When we win today then its all set in motion

[Magicontinues]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_gL_H9z ... re=related

[JSABleedsGreen]

There is a lot of hate here on this board but hey you know what....that's what real fans are all about. Fans that are dedicated to their teams should be allowed to hate everyone else. I despise the Lakers, my right as a Celtic fan. Yet I still hope for an outstanding finals series. Last years finals was boring. The Lakers pounced those little Magic fellas, it wasn't even fair. I didn't root for either team just for a better series. So as much as I love my Celtics and despise the Lakers.... I wish and hope for a GREAT series where the referees are not the main topic from game to game. It would suck to see a Celtics or Lakers win to be tarnished that the referess played a major role in the series.

Stern keep your trolls at bay with the whistle.....let the boys play out their hearts on the court.

[laka4life]

There is a lot of hate here on this board but hey you know what....that's what real fans are all about. Fans that are dedicated to their teams should be allowed to hate everyone else. I despise the Lakers, my right as a Celtic fan. Yet I still hope for an outstanding finals series. Last years finals was boring. The Lakers pounced those little Magic fellas, it wasn't even fair. I didn't root for either team just for a better series. So as much as I love my Celtics and despise the Lakers.... I wish and hope for a GREAT series where the referees are not the main topic from game to game. It would suck to see a Celtics or Lakers win to be tarnished that the referess played a major role in the series.

Stern keep your trolls at bay with the whistle.....let the boys play out their hearts on the court.

Kinda tarnished like in 2008?

[JSABleedsGreen]

There is a lot of hate here on this board but hey you know what....that's what real fans are all about. Fans that are dedicated to their teams should be allowed to hate everyone else. I despise the Lakers, my right as a Celtic fan. Yet I still hope for an outstanding finals series. Last years finals was boring. The Lakers pounced those little Magic fellas, it wasn't even fair. I didn't root for either team just for a better series. So as much as I love my Celtics and despise the Lakers.... I wish and hope for a GREAT series where the referees are not the main topic from game to game. It would suck to see a Celtics or Lakers win to be tarnished that the referess played a major role in the series.

Stern keep your trolls at bay with the whistle.....let the boys play out their hearts on the court.

Kinda tarnished like in 2008?

Tell me what was tarnished about 2008? the refs? the players? the coaching? Stern? what exactly was tarnished?

[laka4life]

There is a lot of hate here on this board but hey you know what....that's what real fans are all about. Fans that are dedicated to their teams should be allowed to hate everyone else. I despise the Lakers, my right as a Celtic fan. Yet I still hope for an outstanding finals series. Last years finals was boring. The Lakers pounced those little Magic fellas, it wasn't even fair. I didn't root for either team just for a better series. So as much as I love my Celtics and despise the Lakers.... I wish and hope for a GREAT series where the referees are not the main topic from game to game. It would suck to see a Celtics or Lakers win to be tarnished that the referess played a major role in the series.

Stern keep your trolls at bay with the whistle.....let the boys play out their hearts on the court.

Kinda tarnished like in 2008?

Tell me what was tarnished about 2008? the refs? the players? the coaching? Stern? what exactly was tarnished?

1. I think ANY UNBIASED fan would be able to admit faking an injury to create a moment and hype up a crowd to win a Game 1 is pretty weak stuff.

2. Though I will be the first to admit you guys deserved more free throws that series due to the way you played, yes, the free throw disparity of Game 2 til this day still make me shake my head.

Game 1: 35-28 Boston. Not so bad. Kobe actually had somehwere near the respect Pierce got in this game.

Game 2: 38-10 Boston. Yep, that's almost 4 times as many free throws. Interesting

Game 3: 34-22 LA. Hmm, interesting what happens when the tables are turned huh????

Game 4: 29-28 LA. There ya go Stern, good equal basketball like you spoke of above JSA.

Game 5: 31-31 tie. Wow, interesting what's happened when games are called equally. We have a good series. Wow, shocking.

Game 6: 38-37 LA, though this one is quite skewed due to the fact the game was over mid 3rd and you guys didn't drive once afterwards.Like you said above, take the referee's out of the game, and we have good bball games. Game 2 was a joke to watch

My point being this. That Game 2 ref job set the tone for this series. Sad part is, we almost won that game too. You can't referee an NBA finals game and award one team enough free throws for 2 games, and then give another team as many as a superstar should shoot in one game. Did you guys deserve to win that Title? Yep. But was it what you think it was in a 6 game drubbing?? Hells no.

Be ready when we start getting some of those calls. It's about to be evened up.

[JSABleedsGreen]

1. I think ANY UNBIASED fan would be able to admit faking an injury to create a moment and hype up a crowd to win a Game 1 is pretty weak stuff.

2. Though I will be the first to admit you guys deserved more free throws that series due to the way you played, yes, the free throw disparity of Game 2 til this day still make me shake my head.

Game 1: 35-28 Boston. Not so bad. Kobe actually had somehwere near the respect Pierce got in this game.

Game 2: 38-10 Boston. Yep, that's almost 4 times as many free throws. Interesting

Game 3: 34-22 LA. Hmm, interesting what happens when the tables are turned huh????

Game 4: 29-28 LA. There ya go Stern, good equal basketball like you spoke of above JSA.

Game 5: 31-31 tie. Wow, interesting what's happened when games are called equally. We have a good series. Wow, shocking.

Game 6: 38-37 LA, though this one is quite skewed due to the fact the game was over mid 3rd and you guys didn't drive once afterwards.Like you said above, take the referee's out of the game, and we have good bball games. Game 2 was a joke to watch

My point being this. That Game 2 ref job set the tone for this series. Sad part is, we almost won that game too. You can't referee an NBA finals game and award one team enough free throws for 2 games, and then give another team as many as a superstar should shoot in one game. Did you guys deserve to win that Title? Yep. But was it what you think it was in a 6 game drubbing?? Hells no.

Be ready when we start getting some of those calls. It's about to be evened up.

I hear you.......not gonna front about the free throw disparity in game 2. It was huge. You know what though......Game 2 did not set the tone for the series though. The Lakers should have come back to Boston with 3-2 lead. The C's had no business winning that game 4 in LA. The players blew that game and blew the series. You gotta agree with me there to some extent. I think if the Lakers won all 3 at home, they had a great chance at taking one from the C's at home in game 6 or game 7, they would have had all the momentum and would have the C's against the wall. Plus with Kobe, there's always a way, he's a fantastic finisher.

I wouldn't necessarily say the Celtics 2008 chip was tarnished because of Game 2.....but I will admit that I don't remember Game 2 as much as I remember the other games.

Do you know of a website where i can see game 2 again? I'd like to see it and see if it fact the refs had it out with the lakers.

I can however admit that Kobe unlike any other superstar gets hacked a lot. Even Queen James gets a ton more calls than Kobe. You can't even breath on James and it's a foul. I've seen Kobe get pummeled and no call. So in that sense I respect Kobe for what he has done in his career. I don't respect him for quiting on his team against phoenix in game 7 though but I can't blame him though....it must have been frustrating to get no help from his teammates.

Oh by the way.....I myself thought the wheelchair incident was pretty g@y too. No way he was hurt the way he made it seem. I remember saying during that game....man up pierce don't pretend to cry.

Still that one g@y @ss play doesn't actually tarnish their title.

[laka4life]

1. I think ANY UNBIASED fan would be able to admit faking an injury to create a moment and hype up a crowd to win a Game 1 is pretty weak stuff.

2. Though I will be the first to admit you guys deserved more free throws that series due to the way you played, yes, the free throw disparity of Game 2 til this day still make me shake my head.

Game 1: 35-28 Boston. Not so bad. Kobe actually had somehwere near the respect Pierce got in this game.

Game 2: 38-10 Boston. Yep, that's almost 4 times as many free throws. Interesting

Game 3: 34-22 LA. Hmm, interesting what happens when the tables are turned huh????

Game 4: 29-28 LA. There ya go Stern, good equal basketball like you spoke of above JSA.

Game 5: 31-31 tie. Wow, interesting what's happened when games are called equally. We have a good series. Wow, shocking.

Game 6: 38-37 LA, though this one is quite skewed due to the fact the game was over mid 3rd and you guys didn't drive once afterwards.Like you said above, take the referee's out of the game, and we have good bball games. Game 2 was a joke to watch

My point being this. That Game 2 ref job set the tone for this series. Sad part is, we almost won that game too. You can't referee an NBA finals game and award one team enough free throws for 2 games, and then give another team as many as a superstar should shoot in one game. Did you guys deserve to win that Title? Yep. But was it what you think it was in a 6 game drubbing?? Hells no.

Be ready when we start getting some of those calls. It's about to be evened up.

I hear you.......not gonna front about the free throw disparity in game 2. It was huge. You know what though......Game 2 did not set the tone for the series though. The Lakers should have come back to Boston with 3-2 lead. The C's had no business winning that game 4 in LA. The players blew that game and blew the series. You gotta agree with me there to some extent. I think if the Lakers won all 3 at home, they had a great chance at taking one from the C's at home in game 6 or game 7, they would have had all the momentum and would have the C's against the wall. Plus with Kobe, there's always a way, he's a fantastic finisher.

I wouldn't necessarily say the Celtics 2008 chip was tarnished because of Game 2.....but I will admit that I don't remember Game 2 as much as I remember the other games.

Do you know of a website where i can see game 2 again? I'd like to see it and see if it fact the refs had it out with the lakers.

I can however admit that Kobe unlike any other superstar gets hacked a lot. Even Queen James gets a ton more calls than Kobe. You can't even breath on James and it's a foul. I've seen Kobe get pummeled and no call. So in that sense I respect Kobe for what he has done in his career. I don't respect him for quiting on his team against phoenix in game 7 though but I can't blame him though....it must have been frustrating to get no help from his teammates.

Oh by the way.....I myself thought the wheelchair incident was pretty g@y too. No way he was hurt the way he made it seem. I remember saying during that game....man up pierce don't pretend to cry.

Still that one g@y @ss play doesn't actually tarnish their title.

A Boston poster/fan I have come to respect. Nice to meet ya man. Wow, impressed.

1. Okay, so the play may not tarnish the title in the sense of the word, but I'm sorry that is a moment I will never let Pierce live down. There is one thing I can't handle, and that's a faker. That's what he did, through and through. Moving on though.

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jq_edNX6Io

This doesn't show much at all, as ABC does a great job of keeping their Finals highlights off Youtube as much as possible. What I do remember was this though, and this is why I say tone-setting: LA knew they had to attack more in Game 2 after Game 1. Game 1 we played like complete pansies. I remember a more agressive LO and Pau that game and we had nothing to show for it. That's why I say tone-setting. Who wants to take contact when it's not gonna get called? It was a 6 point loss, yet there was a 28 free throw differential between the clubs......I don't like blaming games on refs. But that's beyond just noteworthy.

Thank you for your props with Kobe. People say he flails his arms, cries, whines, yada yada yada, YES HE DOES. But that's why. He doesn't get treated like the other stars in this game. Period. I'm glad you can respect that, it shows while a Boston fan, you don't have your head in your ass and you can analyze real basketball. Much props

Overall though, I agree I want a series with equal reffing and no faking. Give me that, and I'll have no qualms. Period

[JSABleedsGreen]

1. I think ANY UNBIASED fan would be able to admit faking an injury to create a moment and hype up a crowd to win a Game 1 is pretty weak stuff.

2. Though I will be the first to admit you guys deserved more free throws that series due to the way you played, yes, the free throw disparity of Game 2 til this day still make me shake my head.

Game 1: 35-28 Boston. Not so bad. Kobe actually had somehwere near the respect Pierce got in this game.

Game 2: 38-10 Boston. Yep, that's almost 4 times as many free throws. Interesting

Game 3: 34-22 LA. Hmm, interesting what happens when the tables are turned huh????

Game 4: 29-28 LA. There ya go Stern, good equal basketball like you spoke of above JSA.

Game 5: 31-31 tie. Wow, interesting what's happened when games are called equally. We have a good series. Wow, shocking.

Game 6: 38-37 LA, though this one is quite skewed due to the fact the game was over mid 3rd and you guys didn't drive once afterwards.Like you said above, take the referee's out of the game, and we have good bball games. Game 2 was a joke to watch

My point being this. That Game 2 ref job set the tone for this series. Sad part is, we almost won that game too. You can't referee an NBA finals game and award one team enough free throws for 2 games, and then give another team as many as a superstar should shoot in one game. Did you guys deserve to win that Title? Yep. But was it what you think it was in a 6 game drubbing?? Hells no.

Be ready when we start getting some of those calls. It's about to be evened up.

I hear you.......not gonna front about the free throw disparity in game 2. It was huge. You know what though......Game 2 did not set the tone for the series though. The Lakers should have come back to Boston with 3-2 lead. The C's had no business winning that game 4 in LA. The players blew that game and blew the series. You gotta agree with me there to some extent. I think if the Lakers won all 3 at home, they had a great chance at taking one from the C's at home in game 6 or game 7, they would have had all the momentum and would have the C's against the wall. Plus with Kobe, there's always a way, he's a fantastic finisher.

I wouldn't necessarily say the Celtics 2008 chip was tarnished because of Game 2.....but I will admit that I don't remember Game 2 as much as I remember the other games.

Do you know of a website where i can see game 2 again? I'd like to see it and see if it fact the refs had it out with the lakers.

I can however admit that Kobe unlike any other superstar gets hacked a lot. Even Queen James gets a ton more calls than Kobe. You can't even breath on James and it's a foul. I've seen Kobe get pummeled and no call. So in that sense I respect Kobe for what he has done in his career. I don't respect him for quiting on his team against phoenix in game 7 though but I can't blame him though....it must have been frustrating to get no help from his teammates.

Oh by the way.....I myself thought the wheelchair incident was pretty g@y too. No way he was hurt the way he made it seem. I remember saying during that game....man up pierce don't pretend to cry.

Still that one g@y @ss play doesn't actually tarnish their title.

A Boston poster/fan I have come to respect. Nice to meet ya man. Wow, impressed.

1. Okay, so the play may not tarnish the title in the sense of the word, but I'm sorry that is a moment I will never let Pierce live down. There is one thing I can't handle, and that's a faker. That's what he did, through and through. Moving on though.

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jq_edNX6Io

This doesn't show much at all, as ABC does a great job of keeping their Finals highlights off Youtube as much as possible. What I do remember was this though, and this is why I say tone-setting: LA knew they had to attack more in Game 2 after Game 1. Game 1 we played like complete pansies. I remember a more agressive LO and Pau that game and we had nothing to show for it. That's why I say tone-setting. Who wants to take contact when it's not gonna get called? It was a 6 point loss, yet there was a 28 free throw differential between the clubs......I don't like blaming games on refs. But that's beyond just noteworthy.

Thank you for your props with Kobe. People say he flails his arms, cries, whines, yada yada yada, YES HE DOES. But that's why. He doesn't get treated like the other stars in this game. Period. I'm glad you can respect that, it shows while a Boston fan, you don't have your head in your ass and you can analyze real basketball. Much props

Overall though, I agree I want a series with equal reffing and no faking. Give me that, and I'll have no qualms. Period

Thanks for the props, much appreciated. I can definitely defend my Celtics since i'm a die hard fan BUT as a basketball fan in general, I can also point how some things that my team does can be lame or even a cheap shot. I'm sure there will be many times during this series where i'll be saying "Perkins stop b*tching at the ref and play ball, the more you b*tch the less you get" OR "KG man....you pretend to be the person who gets elbowed or pushed but what do you expect when you keep talking $hit and then throw your little elbows in a sneaky way to instigate" .... trust me i yell at my boys too.....and trash talking is part of the game (Kobe does it a lot too)....$hit i trash talk on the court too...but you know what.....don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk. Point is...expect to get hit when you run your mouth or instigate.

I'll check out game 2 on youtube..

As for Pierce i respect your feelings for hating him. If i were Laker fan i would probably say the same thing.

[laka4life]

Props JSA. I love KG's game, but the antics are just....can't take it man. Quit pickin on the Bulls while you're in street clothes, Jose Calderon and Sasha Vujacic, etc. But like you said, he's an instigator, but he gets all offended when someone steps up to him. This series is going to tell me a lot about a lot of people in this series, both teams. We aren't backing down anymore. I'm anxious to see how your instigators react, and how our "pansies" play tough ball. It's going to be fun. No doubt

**** talking is absolutely part of the game, it's just a lot more respected when it's against your peers. Telling Jose Calderon he sucks is like me talking **** to my grandma while she's shooting a free throw. Just pointless

[JSABleedsGreen]

Props JSA. I love KG's game, but the antics are just....can't take it man. Quit pickin on the Bulls while you're in street clothes, Jose Calderon and Sasha Vujacic, etc. But like you said, he's an instigator, but he gets all offended when someone steps up to him. This series is going to tell me a lot about a lot of people in this series, both teams. We aren't backing down anymore. I'm anxious to see how your instigators react, and how our "pansies" play tough ball. It's going to be fun. No doubt

**** talking is absolutely part of the game, it's just a lot more respected when it's against your peers. Telling Jose Calderon he sucks is like me talking **** to my grandma while she's shooting a free throw. Just pointless

hahahahaha that was f*cking hilarious. I'm sure your grandma would react the same way Jose did too..."did he just tell me i suck.....me?" Your right...no point telling someone like Jose Calderon that he's garbage, specially if your KG.

I also think it will be a great series......game 1 tonight....gotta fly but i'm sure we'll talk again.....it's gonna be a long series....

[Danny Darko]

Whining about rigged series and refs is plain old sad. All you did was start a flame war with a guy who came logically and didn't flame us. If you believe everything is the refs fault, then why watch at all? Stay classy for a second.

[MAMBAEMD]

What more reasons do we need other than they are the Celtics?

[H00PDREAMS]

"Paul Pierce was one of the nicest guys at school" My Lil' Sis says when she attended Inglewood. That being said - I like everyone on the Celtics individually. I just CHOOSE to hate the team collectively. RESPECT.

[laka4life]

Whining about rigged series and refs is plain old sad. All you did was start a flame war with a guy who came logically and didn't flame us. If you believe everything is the refs fault, then why watch at all? Stay classy for a second.

Actually didn't start a flame war at all. Had a solid conversation with mutual respect between two posters, and kept it completely classy. Also never said I believed it was all the refs fault. did you read my posts???? Honest question. Just pointed out how I thought Game 2 was pretty interesting

You obviously missed when I said:

" Did you guys deserve to win the series? Yep"

"you guys did deserve more free throws due to your style of play"

Just pointing out 28 more free throws in a game is a pretty interesting thing

[Mamba Venom]

Even Minnesota fans think KG has become a douche.

Outside of Boston the league hates them.

[G_Net550]

I'm a Celtics fan, but i cannot really complain about the refs.....sure there were some horrid calls on us, but there were shady calls on the Lakers as well.......and as far as a conspiracy theory, how could that be, NBA refs just are not that good....its all a show, anyone who knows baskeball knows the NBA is more for show, not that it is rigged by any means.....but when you allow your players to swtich pivot feet, take 3 or 4 steps, carry the ball...its all a show

Now don't get me wrong i love watching the NBA, but you cannot really whine about the refs, they are told to let some things go, but when they call a close game its a big deal......If the NBA players played with refs of the NCAA or High school who actually called everything they would not be as good as they look in the NBA. It is mostly for show, and being able to do the moves on three steps, makes for much more spectacular plays, and is fun to watch.....but anyone who complains about rules and refs should know that is just how the NBA is and always will be