xkirruax wrote:ChampagnePapa wrote:What would you say the ratio of good decisions vs bad decisions are for each Laker player? Obviously some opinion involved in good vs. bad but I would venture to say Fisher is top 2, maybe top. Unless the lakers get a top flight all star pg, that position will be the last option in the offense. I mean we posted up rick fox before goign to fisher or ron harper...the Lakers may not run the actual "triangle" every time but its based ont he same system of movement and shooters. Fisher plays it well, I don't understand the problem.
3 simple facts
1) Fisher not worth 5 million but Luke walton and sasha are? Before its pointed out that those were signed earlier and when they had promise, young potential, etc...its important to point out that I am not saying LA shoudl sign Fisher to a 5 year 27 mil...but for one year, in a league that has seen salaries rise, he is worth $5 mil.
2) Lakers are bent over by the cap, so again, who would be his replacement? More importantly, who is to say that we can't sign Fish and get an upgraded 2nd PG? farmar, brown, ammo, fish and the dj powell connection...there can potentially be a lot of movement.
3) After all the talk about the lakers needing to make a deal for a quicker PG, the title is in LA, adjustments were made, title was won. And this was virtually w/o bynum other than game 2. He did play a solid role, but 100% drew could have been Lakers in 5 considering how close the games were heading into the 4th. I think everyone is really blowing the pg weakness out of proportion without thinking about having a top 3 Center, top 3 power forward, top 3 SG and top 3 Defensive SF (my opinion would actually be 2, 1, 1, 2) but not many can argue with that. Then you bring Odom off the bench with a solid backup lineup w/farmar, brown, odom, gasol/bynum, kobe/luke/artest/etc. Having a "weak" PG position is ok.
#1 Lol your kidding me right this is the kind of Laker fan im talking about talking about giving Fisher 5 Mil a year see how idiotic it is? He is the worst 1st string or 2nd string player in the NBA no one has ever been able to list 1 person who he is clearly better then NO ONE. Lol people keep saying well we are over the cap so it dosnt matter if we give Fisher it wont hurt our capspace are people so dumb not 2 understand Every team has a budget We saw this year that the Lakers budget is around 92 Mil If we throw 5 Mil at a scrub like fisher that means we are at 88 Million with only 7 players in if shanon brown opts in that leaves us at 90 mil so we got 2 mil for 4 Players. Dose anyone see how stupid this is just cuz idiots want 2 pay Fisher 5 mil?
#2 Lol why the hell would we upgrade our bench PG when we need a Starting PG Cant people understand you upgrade your starts your upgraiding your bench that much more cuz your starter gose to the bench hmmmmmm...................
#3 That has to be the dumbest argument ever you admit fisher is BAD yet your saying its ok to be bad cuz we won the title anyways. I dont think an argument can get worst then this. If our starting PG is bad you upgrade your starting PG so its not bad. yo want 2 know who we can get for 5 mil simple ill list them seeing how you know nothing about Basketball outside of 2 games a year.
All of these FA PG are way better then fisher and can be gotten with the MLE or less making the Lakers that much more stronger
1) I did not say i WANT to pay him $5 million, I am saying you are freaking out about a number that won't make much difference at the end of the day.
2) Next time, try actually reading and watching basketball. Lakers starters...option 1, kobe, option 2, pau...sometimes swap those...option 3, bynum, and if it gets to option 4, it doesnt matter, its either a good shot, bad decision or a result of options 1-3. If you add say ray felton, he was on top of your list...what would he do differently? he shoots at a much worse percentage...but wow, here's a thought, he could tear it up with the second unit,....so yes, it does make sense to upgrade your bench PG before the starter in some cases, like the lakers
3) I am saying that you think Fisher is all that bad, but the lakers aren't going to be getting a tier 1 or 2 PG, so when its the choice among 10 somewhat similar talent level PGs, i will take the one we can sign to a 1 or 2 yr, short term commitment, that knows the team, the offense, the city over some wannabe like will bynum or earl watson or ridnour...you would really feel more comfortable with them in the starter slot?
I'm going to add a number 4) you are playing nba live or nba 2k10 when you are talking about these other guys making all that big of a difference, this is reality my friend...there was a time that ppl were happy about picking up smush parker...yeah, look it up...so before you want to think that will bynum or watson or felton even will make a big difference...sometimes its better not to gamble on people that cant hold starting jobs for their garbage teams
