Anklebreaker702 wrote:Penberthy wrote:
I'm assuming by your handle you have played ball before, which leads me to be surprised at your lack of knowledge as to how injuries work. Yes, it is true bynum landed on his own teammates a couple of times, and as a result he missed half a season or more. But that is not the fault of his teammates, it is a result of him a) being injury prone (his own words) or b) not working out properly.
Players come down awkwardly or land on teammates on nearly every possession or rebound. It happens countless times per game. If you've ever played ball you know its true. The difference is that most players' auxillery muscles/ligaments are strong enough/flexible enough to compensate for an unusual landing, which prevents injury from occurring. The fact is that Bynum's body, for whatever reason, lacks this ability to protect itself. Didn't his most recent injury happen just from him jumping straight up and coming straight down?
Ok first, yes i played more ball than most and yes i didn't give the name Anklebreaker to myself, people gave me that name because i had ridiculous handles. (That's real). Second I disagree with this all the way. He landed on Lamar's foot first time while Lamar was going the other direction which made his knee twist out of place. Now tell me that happens all the time. The second time Kobe went crashing into his leg. I've said this here before, let me see a 230+ pound man go crashing into your leg & see how well you hold up.
Now if you watch that video with Kobe & tell me that was Andrew's fault then we can't finish this discussion. We have to be objective to have a legit discussion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTokWJwt60E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXSmv8LCPccPenberthy wrote: You might want to think twice before you insult someone based on their post count.
Didn't realize i insulted you by saying crystal ballPenberthy wrote:I think a healthy Bynum would be our main advantage over the Heat, and I truly hope that he will be healthy when the time comes. I just don't base my judgement on "hope" and emotion. Rather, I base my judgement on logic and trends. In this case, the trend is that Bynum has had serious injuries for each of the past three years, and I don't see any reason that trend should change.
This is a cool post & yeah never base on hope or emotion but he hasn't had 3 major injury's in the last 3 years. It was only 2. The playoff injury would have only been a 2 week injury had it been mid season. It was the same injury Adrian Peterson had this year & he missed 1 game because he was able to rest it. Bynum didn't want to miss another post season.Penberthy wrote:The scary thing is that some GMs still see potential in Bynum and we would do well to trade him now. However, I am afraid that one more serious injury will put his trade value at exactly ZERO. Resultantly, we would have to put Pau back and C and Odom at PF, which would severely deplete our bench, and remove any "length" advantage we may have had that so many on this board equate to as limitless a resource as the sun.
Yes "if" he gets hurt again I agree with you. Thing is they were pretty freak injury's that shouldn't happen again but yeah another major injury & i'm hoping on the trade Bynum bandwagon.
1. It didn't even look like he landed on Lamar's foot. And if he did, that is exactly the type of thing I'm talking about that happens all the time, multiple times per game. Most agile people, when they feel that sensation of their foot about to land on top of another players foot, instinctively take all the weight off of that foot that is in danger and shift it to the other foot so that very injury is prevented. You don't even think about it, it just happens instinctively. Heck I remember seeing sasha get walked under and even LUKE-always injured-walton landing on other players feet and walking it off and continuing to play in the same game with no ill effects.
2. Yes Kobe rolled into him, but the same theory applies. Peripheral vision would tell a normal athlete that a bowling ball is coming toward their lower half, so adjust accordingly by unplanting your feet, doing a small hop, and letting your legs get swept out so that they are not stuck cemented to the court. Its that sixth sense you have of just "feeling" that force coming to you. Bynum doesn't have it.
3. The third injury I'm talking about is the one that prevented him from playing at even 60% in the playoffs. He made no contact with any other player if I remember correctly. Just straight up and straight down. An injury that requires him to have his 3rd knee surgery in as many years, I consider to be serious. So I guess we can agree to disagree on that one.
4. You didn't insult me, you insulted/tried to invalidate that other dude's comment by calling him a noob or whatever.
5.If it happens once, then OK maybe it was a freak injury. Twice? Thrice? I wans't a statistics major, but I can tell you it is no coincidence that he and Luke are consistently the only two injured players on our team.
6. There is something to be said for flexibility and injury prevention leading to a long relatively injury free career, just ask Kareem, Horry, Kobe, and Fish.
Also Bynum has only had 2 surgery's counting this one he just had. Plus they have all been minor. Guys aren't the same after tears in the ACL, PCL or Microfracture surgery and Drew has never have any of those tears or surgery