End of the season Lakers team awards

[Jetset]

Why has something as harmless as this thread turned into a brawl? Why is LeBron's name in this thread?

[Kilroy]

It's all GB angst... Which is lame in and of itself, but really has no place here.

[Wavy Q]

0 actual facts in anything you just said other than Kobe's in 3rd in the MVP voting which is subjective at best.

Bynum fans are not worse than Kobe fans

I am not a LeBron fan

come back again please.

Lets go back to what you said.

"this isn't what MVP means"

Is that your best counter argument... Are you even serious?

Let me spell it out for you if you don't know. most VALUABLE player.

The debate you hear everyday on forums, tv and everywhere is that if you take out player A from his team, Player A's team would become a lottery team. If you take out Player B, his team would still make the playoffs with good seeding.

That's the very definition of MVP. Being your team's best player.

Check out the Official 2011-2012 MVP thread and this notion is brought up every page.

Wait why am I even debating with you? you are known as the biggest joke in GB.

The irony of YOU calling me the GB joke is hilarious.

[ennui]

Mvp: kobe, Bynum, pau

Dpoy: Bynum, mwp, kobe

Most Improved: Bynum, pau, barnes

6th man: barnes, McBob, goudelock

Rgmmvp: stephano

[Edrees]

Why has something as harmless as this thread turned into a brawl? Why is LeBron's name in this thread?

Clearly Lebron is the MVP of the Lakers

[Anklebreaker702]

MVP:
1. Bynum
2. Kobe
3. Gasol

DPOY:
1. Bynum
2. MWP
3. kobe

6th man:
1. Barnes
2. Goudelock
3. That Asian lady that would give kobe massages on the bench after the all star game

Most Improved:
1. Bynum
2. Goudelock
3. Jim Buss ( for being able to move Fish and Walton )

Not being lazy, posting from my phone but this is pretty accurate.

[microfib4thewin]

I would say it's a tie between Bynum and Kobe as the team MVP. They have their really awful games, but when they're amazing they're by far the most productive players. DPOY is Metta followed by Barnes. I reluctantly put Bynum 3rd because he's been disappointing on that end. Aside from Barnes I don't see anyone else worth an appearance for productive bench players.

[Jan_Sobieski]

Biggest Skip Bayless Fangirl: Bladers

Dude goes all out on that prune juice listening to Grace Jones.

[tkb]

I'm kinda surprised at how many people think Bynum was the MVP this season.

I think he has been amazing this year, but I don't think he has proven to be more valuable to our team than Kobe, yet.

[Sedale Threatt]

I think it's a toss-up. Kobe had a solid year, but his crappy efficiency took off a lot of the luster in my eyes. At the same time, despite this being Andrew's breakout year, I'm not sure he did enough on a consistent basis. A tough choice. Would probably go with Kobe if I had to, but not confidently.

[Doormatt]

what exactly is bynums argument for being more valuable? kobe has the better on/off and +/- numbers, and hes still the #1 option on this team. everything was still run through him. bynums also been too inconsistent defensively for me to think the gap has closed.

[Gek]

I just had a mental block about giving a guy MVP of the team when he shot so many games away. TBH, I don't think we had an MVP this year, no one played the entire regular season.

[Kilroy]

what exactly is bynums argument for being more valuable? kobe has the better on/off and +/- numbers, and hes still the #1 option on this team. everything was still run through him. bynums also been too inconsistent defensively for me to think the gap has closed.

I don't know about that... I think there was a distinct shift as the season went on to run everything through Pau/Bynum first... And I'd say that holds true so far in the playoffs too.

Kobe is always going to get his points, but I just feel like this season marks the end of him being the blackhole-nucleas of our offense and has him as a complimentary player to our Twin Towers.

Kobe absolutely shot us out of a ton of games this season... But we wouldn't have won nearly as many without him on the floor for us.
Bynum just destroyed teams this season, but he wasn't consistent in doing so and his attitude was a distraction from time to time.

It's a toss-up at best... But it's a team sport, and out team is in the playoffs and doing reasonably well... So it doesn't matter a whole-helluva-lot...

[Sedale Threatt]

That's how I feel. We've had to tolerate Kobe's tendency to crash and burn even in the best of times. Now that's he's in decline, it was just that much harder to take. I defended him pretty hard for about the first half of the season in light of some of our flaws (lack of depth and 3-point shooting). But it got pretty old in light of the lack of adjustments. Especially after we did well without him down the stretch.