Mike Brown behind Derek Fisher trade?

[Slava]

Agreed there. With Jordan Hill's emergence we are able to go back to the 3 man rotation in the frontcourt and do it effectively like when we had Odom instead of depending on McRoberts or Murphy to come good.

Having said that we need to give Murphy a look, especially with our terrible spacing issues. Atleast when Bynum can cover up for his defense.

[kobeaki]

i dont know, at this point, i just am rooting for duncan to beat the ish out of lebron/kg...

[microfib4thewin]

But Jordan Hill was a complete afterthought. The intention of the trade is to get rid of Fisher's 3 mil ETO. If it wasn't for Artest elbowing Harden he would likely not play for the rest of the year.

It's hard for me to believe Mike Brown is behind this. Normally we do not hear coaches have any say over the roster. Mike Brown is in his first year with the team, his job title on his only coaching stint was Lebron's babysitter, and he certainly hasn't turned up an impressive enough season to be given management power. Is there any reason that either Jim or Mitch would listen to Brown, and what reason can Brown give to convince them that trading Fisher for an expiring is a good idea? Mitch seem too savvy to listen to an idiot like Brown, and unless Jim Buss treats Brown like his own son like he does Bynum I don't see any scenario that Jim would take Brown's advice.

[milesfides]

I try not to talk about it, but yeah you got me

Back in the day, way back, when I was in college, thick in all things hip-hop, I somehow came across this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giOFVManPKc&hd=1

And I saw the light. Almost a religious experience. From 1971? No way. You could hear the past, present and future (Love how the Black Keys totally ripped this off for Everlasting Light). And that's Marc Bolan. Ahead of his time. Definitely in his time. Back in time. Beyond time. In outer space.

I showed one video to my roommate who said "Gay" then quickly, "You're gay" and walked out after 5 seconds.

But I got into his music, life, and career...dude was insane. Crazy, not human. I am completely inspired by people who imagine a life that isn't about passing time until we're eaten by worms.

[chefy]

not having the balls to bench a player? gtfo!!!

tell me exactly when Fish didn't deserve to come off the bench, but yet remained a starter.

what im trying to say is I dont believe thats the true reason we traded him. i dont know if miles is correct or not, but i just dont believe we'll trade a first just so we can trade a player who doesn't want to come off the bench.

but if its indeed true then we should have let go of mike brown too. what kind of coaching is that? a coach who has no control over his players?

[milesfides]

Or, you can say that maybe a guy who is shooting 64% on 3-pointers in the playoffs might have been even a greater factor than Jordan Hill's two notable hustle performances.

u gotta be kidding with this downplaying of hill's play for fisher's 7 total 3 pters all playoffs.

Would you take Fisher's 7-11 or Sessions 4-21? Think about how much of an impact this difference would have in our losses. The number of possessions lost. Don't you think that would have been the difference in at least a couple of games?

Also, before dismissing Fisher's 7 3's as a small number, consider the fact that OKC only played 4 games before playing us; they swept Dallas while we struggled with Denver.

I'm not downplaying Hill's play at all. But I can note only 2 performances where he was special. Other games, I thought McRoberts could have done the same. In others, Murphy could have been even better.

But there's nobody like Fish on our roster. That's painfully clear. Would Fish be hitting 65% if he were still on the team? Probably not. But he wouldn't be a liability like Sessions, crippling our offense.

He'd be more important than Hill, because when the game is on the line down the stretch, Hill isn't in the game. When our starters are in and we need to win the game, I know that if defenders sag in, cheat, double, Fish will make them pay. I know that his ability to shoot would free up our offense. I know that every single Laker would trust him to take those open threes, and I believe defenses would too.

That's the thing about Fish. He can change the dynamic of the entire offense. He can provide leadership. Get them to play together. To be professional. To play with heart. Without fear. With the same hunger as Kobe to knock down those shots and rip the heart out of the opponent.

So, yeah, I'm happy that Hill is making an impact, but Fisher helps out in many more ways than Hill.

You can disagree, but that's how I see it. Fish didn't win 5 championships just riding on anybody's coattails. Phil, Tex, Jerry West, Shaq, let alone Kobe, all those guys respected what Fish brings to the team.

You only really notice Hill when Bynum or Pau aren't playing hard.

But I've noticed the absence of Fish EVERY single game of this playoffs. Not only because of Sessions and PG, but the entire demeanor of the team.

When the game is on the line, Hill wouldn't even be in the game. Fish would. And he'd be ready to drop the dagger.

[twinthunder3]

They also dumped Odom.

[Stebo_SSK]

I hope someone has brought up that without Jordan Hill we wouldn't have gotten out of round one.

This! And the fact that Fisher's name keeps coming up disturbs me. No one gave 2 **** about him until we started losing against the team he went to. If we didnt trade Fisher we would be worse off offensively. I dont care if Sessions has struggled a bit lately. He still was avg 14 and 6 in a Laker uni and played well offensively in the 1st round. When is the last time Fisher ever avgd 14 and 6 or even half that lol.

[kobeaki]

I hope someone has brought up that without Jordan Hill we wouldn't have gotten out of round one.

This! And the fact that Fisher's name keeps coming up disturbs me. No one gave 2 **** about him until we started losing against the team he went to. If we didnt trade Fisher we would be worse off offensively. I dont care if Sessions has struggled a bit lately. He still was avg 14 and 6 in a Laker uni and played well offensively in the 1st round. When is the last time Fisher ever avgd 14 and 6 or even half that lol.

i always wanted fisher to reitre with us, he had earned that...

the funny thing , to me, despite all the shouting by talk radio, and the peanut gallery here...the irony is that as different and quicker and younger that sessions is(and i like him, would like to keep him if nothing better comes along) but the end /net result is pretty much the same as if we had kept fisher...i mean is ramon led to more wins? or playoff success? honestly?

i mean he has helped with the actual playing , or in the game, its easier for the rest of the team, maybe...

but how many of us, at the start of the playoffs when our reserve needs to be forged, or in the shot in game 2, wouldve gladly taken fish back? i wouldve...

dumping him, if we are gonna be killed by okc anyway...is just sad...seeing that fish is a member of said okc is salt on the wound...though delicious f-you to shortbuss...

[Mamba Venom]

Fisher should have backed up Kobe, BUT Hill is providing a lot more. But Hill is a rental at this point and his value is at an all-time high. So I'm afraid to resign him.