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Official Kobe Complaints, Blame, and P&M Thread 

Post#1 » by nolunch » Sun May 27, 2012 1:50 pm

Kobe won't win again if below problem is not fixed.

Dominating and shooting the ball most of the time in 4th quarter. All of his teammates are being out of rhythm from standing around the court and are afraid to the correct things that usually do in 1st 3 quarters.

For example: Game 4 vs Thunders !

Kobe has dominated and shot the ball most of the time in 4th quarter. In the most important time (last min/seconds), he PASSED. Unfortunately, Pau is the victim. If you are Pau, you must be nervous and embarrassed at that moment. As nature, Pau definitely won't shoot or is afraid of taking shot at that possesion. Pau passed...and Lakers lost as a result.
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Post#2 » by Gek » Sun May 27, 2012 2:49 pm

Yeah, clearly Kobe is the only reason we lost i the playoffs. Good deductions.
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Post#3 » by crazyeights » Sun May 27, 2012 3:56 pm

If you don't think the decisions Kobe made in games 2 & 4 weren't bad decisions then I'd say same to you, Gek.

Sure you could argue he was in stretches vintage Kobe, but the OP is right, IMO: in game 4 Kobe tried to put the team on his back throughout the 2nd half. Only when it was Kobe time his shots weren't falling and the rest of the team was out of rhythm.

Kobe's Alphadog mentality is both a gift and a curse. It's clear, however, by his 4th quarter performances this year that Kobe can't straight beat a team anymore, even when he's rolling.

Now that said do I appreciate that even fading that Kobe's a special talent? Absolutely. Do I want him to take the big shots? Of course. Just so long as he's playing within the team, getting guys touches, because if he can't hit a healthy percentage in Kobe time then we're really going to need the team in a rhythm.
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Post#4 » by Gek » Sun May 27, 2012 4:24 pm

My point was Pau and Bynum in particular let us down even more. How is everyone okay with Bynum admitting to not being prepared for a game? He clearly wasn't mentally in half the games and when he did show up to play he took possessions off. Half the time the team just shuffles Kobe the ball with 5-8 seconds on the shot clock because the offense broke down and he's forced to jack a shot.
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Post#5 » by Doormatt » Sun May 27, 2012 7:02 pm

pau is the victim? lol?
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Post#6 » by hermes » Sun May 27, 2012 7:06 pm

what does p&m stand for?

edit: oh nevermind i just got it
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Post#7 » by Mamba Venom » Sun May 27, 2012 7:22 pm

Kobe gets so much blame, but he is the only Laker that did his job in the play-offs. Yeah there was that Durant steal, but come on. Shiz happens. If the rest of our Lakers played w/ max effort like Kobe we would have beaten the Thunder. I blame the guys that did not give it their all. The star that couldn't shoot a shot in the 4th. And the tripple double center w/ only 4 boards in the elimination game.

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2) Bynum
3) Gasol
4) Sessions
5) Barnes
6) Blake
7) Hill
8) MWP
9) Kobe
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Post#8 » by Gek » Sun May 27, 2012 7:37 pm

I'm lenient on barnes because I think he was playing hurt.
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Post#9 » by chefy » Tue May 29, 2012 2:16 am

+100 to op. kobe needs to adjust his game to his body. we're not blaming him or saying his the reason we came up short this year, but hes definitely part of the problem.
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Post#10 » by Dr Aki » Tue May 29, 2012 3:48 am

chefy wrote:+100 to op. kobe needs to adjust his game to his body. we're not blaming him or saying his the reason we came up short this year, but hes definitely part of the problem.


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Post#11 » by kobeaki » Tue May 29, 2012 5:32 am

Aki wrote:
chefy wrote:+100 to op. kobe needs to adjust his game to his body. we're not blaming him or saying his the reason we came up short this year, but hes definitely part of the problem.


a chris paul wouldve solved this

**** no...keep that ass away from MY lakers...he is a whiner, quitter, more injury prone than bynum and flops like a beyotch...

i think he stays in clipper ville because of the blake tandem
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