Lakers "notoriously behind the curve" in bball analytics

[Dr Aki]

He pointed that out.

But the Lakers have 5 chips (most in the new millennium) so are the Lakers really lacking in the evaluation process.

i actually like it that we're quite hush hush on the matter.

the lakers are dedicated to winning, not giving out their secrets

[dockingsched]

Go back in this thread, I was responding to another poster about Houston.

How is all this relevant to the conversation? I don't know, maybe you should ask yourself since you yourself extended this talk about Jeremy Lin.

i understand you weren't the first to bring up lin, but you were the one that tried to use lin to insult the lakers front office with a snide remark that included the typical " " smiley.


did the lakers miss on him in the draft? yes, but so did every other team. at the time you're talking about a 2 time defending champ that runs the triangle under phil jackson. even if the lakers draft him, what can honestly be expected out of lin from such a veteran team, running an offense that doesn't have a traditional pg, under a coach that is notorious for not playing rookies.

did the lakers miss on him where the rockets didn't like you implied? absolutely not, they tried to claim him too.

i just think this entire post is totally off base, you were wrong to go at the lakers front office in regards to lin, but you don't want to admit it.:

Nothing wrong with the Rockets' laptops, they actually picked Lin up. (Not surprised they let him go either, with Dragic and Lowry).

You should think about what's wrong with other teams' laptops. You know, maybe one team in particular, that is dying for a point guard... Kobe Bryant, when asked how GM's could have missed Jeremy Lin:

"They would all be fired if I was owning a team. I hear this stuff about how he came out of nowhere, and I think it's a load of crap. You can't play that well and just come out of nowhere. There has to be something there, and everybody missed it. So, heads would roll."

Gotta love how Jim Buss and Mitch felt about that.

[milesfides]

i understand you weren't the first to bring up lin, but you were the one that tried to use lin to insult the lakers front office with a snide remark that included the typical " " smiley.

Let me get this right, your feelings are hurt because I laughed at the Lakers front office?

did the lakers miss on him in the draft? yes, but so did every other team. at the time you're talking about a 2 time defending champ that runs the triangle under phil jackson. even if the lakers draft him, what can honestly be expected out of lin from such a veteran team, running an offense that doesn't have a traditional pg, under a coach that is notorious for not playing rookies.

First of all, Lin was probably going to be in the 2nd round anyway because he played for Harvard. Second, most teams weren't as desperate for a point guard as the Lakers. Teams do draft based on team needs, and the Lakers somehow went with Ebanks and Caracter, two positions of our greatest depth. Go figure.

Second, Phil played rookies all the time, it just happened to be that his teams have usually been stacked and lacked quality rookies. But Jordan Farmar and Vujacic got quality PT, and even Bynum played the very first game of the season - and had big moments that year too. And anyways, Jeremy Lin had an accomplished college career, 4 full years, was already a versatile player, was a big moment player (played big against great teams), had good size too. In fact, he would have been ideal under Phil Jackson's triangle.

And anyway, the report was that Lin had a promise from the Lakers at #58...but they took Caracter instead. So again, no, I don't have confidence whatsoever in the decision-making at the top level.

did the lakers miss on him where the rockets didn't like you implied? absolutely not, they tried to claim him too.

Yeah, but don't you get it? It was too little too late, the Lakers wouldn't have picked up any quality players off of waivers due to their low waiver priority. They missed him in the draft.

i just think this entire post is totally off base, you were wrong to go at the lakers front office in regards to lin, but you don't want to admit it.:

Don't be so sensitive. The Lakers missed him in the draft, they made the wrong decision. I fully hold them accountable, especially since that report came out that somebody in the Lakers promised Lin to take them by #58. But Jim Buss and the Lakers were probably prejudiced with "size" and decided on Caracter.

That's the thing, Jeremy Lin wasn't that big of a secret. He had offers from 3 teams after he was undrafted, among them, the Lakers. Why didn't they draft Lin at 58th? Because they thought Caracter was more valuable (and Ebanks). Whatever analytics they used, it certainly wasn't good enough to make the right basketball decisions.

In an interview, Lin said he was pissed that the Lakers promised to draft him, but didn't. That partially explains why he was so juiced to drop 38 points on us this year.

Completely blame the Lakers front office, because while somebody in the organization really liked Lin, the people who actually have power dropped the ball.

[dockingsched]

forget it

[LaLa]

forget it

[DEEP3CL]

Long story short....semantics and ball don't mix, you gotta go out and do the old grimy way.


Play the damn game as hard as you can, computers and stats don't play this game. Players do, read and study your damn scouting reports.