History Says It's 16 But Merger Wipes Out 17th

DEEP3CL · Post #21 » by **DEEP3CL** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:35 pm

Well the more modern era of the NBA is considered from the 1969-70 on to now, that said even without counting the championships from Minny the Lakers have 11 titles to the Celtics 6.

supaflash · Post #22 » by **supaflash** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:51 pm

Yes that is what I am more proud of, this franchise has been successful since I was a kid. I'm a '77er. I like that we have 10 since the 80s and the next closest are the Bulls at 6.

Sedale Threatt · Post #23 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:54 pm

It's stunning, really. The Spurs are a legitimate power and they only have four. We've had two dominant decades with five, and another team now that could add to the pile. Ridiculously good fortune.

EArl · Post #24 » by **EArl** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:55 pm

Damn deep you know your stuff. Whenever I see your avatar, I always picture you looking like the cap in real life :lol:

Sedale Threatt · Post #25 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:56 pm

I want to see Deep write about the coin flip we won to draft Magic. That is my favorite piece of Laker lore, hands down.

DEEP3CL · Post #26 » by **DEEP3CL** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:12 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote:I want to see Deep write about the coin flip we won to draft Magic. That is my favorite piece of Laker lore, hands down.

Don't have to write that one ST, check out this video...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk0WtKaSiDc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Anklebreaker702 · Post #27 » by **Anklebreaker702** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:29 pm

Great stuff Deep, but here's the funny part about Celtic fans. Now that we're breathing down their necks in overall titles, they're trying to delegate our titles to just L.A. :lol:

They now say we got 17 & L.A. has 11

Anklebreaker702 · Post #28 » by **Anklebreaker702** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:31 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote:I want to see Deep write about the coin flip we won to draft Magic. That is my favorite piece of Laker lore, hands down.

We also won the flip to get Big Game James as well. I will tell you this, without Worthy we do NOT win 5 in the 80's

Anklebreaker702 · Post #29 » by **Anklebreaker702** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:39 pm

DEEP3CL wrote:
Sedale Threatt wrote:I want to see Deep write about the coin flip we won to draft Magic. That is my favorite piece of Laker lore, hands down.
Don't have to write that one ST, check out this video...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk0WtKaSiDc&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

We owe yet more thanks to Elgin :lol:

Sedale Threatt · Post #30 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:25 pm

Anklebreaker702 wrote:
Sedale Threatt wrote:I want to see Deep write about the coin flip we won to draft Magic. That is my favorite piece of Laker lore, hands down.

We also won the flip to get Big Game James as well. I will tell you this, without Worthy we do NOT win 5 in the 80's

I saw a game from 87 within the last six months where he absolutely slaughtered the Sonics in the playoffs. He was so good. Not like elite-level good, but for what he did, he was great. Easily one of my favorite players from a style standpoint. The way he used to palm the ball was a thing of beauty.

Sedale Threatt · Post #31 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:27 pm

The one hypothetical "What If?" I'd love to have an answer for: How would Showtime have looked if West had taken Dominique Wilkins instead, which he gave serious consideration?

Anklebreaker702 · Post #32 » by **Anklebreaker702** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:56 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote:
Anklebreaker702 wrote:
Sedale Threatt wrote:I want to see Deep write about the coin flip we won to draft Magic. That is my favorite piece of Laker lore, hands down.

We also won the flip to get Big Game James as well. I will tell you this, without Worthy we do NOT win 5 in the 80's

I saw a game from 87 within the last six months where he absolutely slaughtered the Sonics in the playoffs. He was so good. Not like elite-level good, but for what he did, he was great. Easily one of my favorite players from a style standpoint. The way he used to palm the ball was a thing of beauty.

I want you to consider this Sedale. I absolutely believe he was elite level, but he was surrounded by 2 player who are in the elite 6. That's going to overshadow what ever you do on almost every night. Yet BGJ was able to still put his stamp on many many games with those 2 on the floor. Also he was the 1st option on a North Carolina team that had Michael Jordan.

Anklebreaker702 · Post #33 » by **Anklebreaker702** » Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:59 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote:The one hypothetical "What If?" I'd love to have an answer for: How would Showtime have looked if West had taken Dominique Wilkins instead, which he gave serious consideration?

A lot more highlights from dunks that's for sure, but I think worthy was a better well rounded player. Doesn't get enough credit for his defense either and Dominiqe wasn't nearly as clutch

KGBiggestfan521 · Post #34 » by **KGBiggestfan521** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:39 am

History says 16 but the Los Angeles Lakers have only won 11. Technically, of course.

Edrees · Post #35 » by **Edrees** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:05 am

Very cool to learn that Deep, I appreciate the post, that's awesome!

Regardless, it's only a matter of time before we pass and completely destroy them in number of championships from now. 15 years from now we could have 5+ more than them, and it won't even be close. Let them enjoy the next few months or one year, because in the past 25 years they've won one championship, and they clearly aren't the organization they were before most of us were all born with their future looking pretty bleak right now, while we have Howard to build around as the centerpiece for the next decade.

Ghost Snack · Post #36 » by **Ghost Snack** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:39 am

good read. unlike the other board with insecure topics worrying about beating the lakers in the finals when the season hasn't even started.

DEEP3CL · Post #37 » by **DEEP3CL** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:50 am

Thanks to all giving up props. I heard of it being 4 basketball leagues post World War II. The sport was like a craze fad to watch after the war, but the economy at that time couldn't support 4 leagues. And most of the leagues were territorial. For example the (PBLA) Professional Basketball League Of America didn't have a team on the west coast. The furthest was in Texas with the Houston Mavericks and Oklahoma with the Oklahoma City Drillers.

American Basketball League (ABL) 1925-1955
National Basketball League ( NBL) 1937-1949
Basketball Association of America ( BAA) 1946-1949
Professional Basketball League Of America( PBLA ) 1947-1948

The problem was all these leagues overlapped teams in the same cities.

ennui · Post #38 » by **ennui** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:48 am

Man, what a great post. I had no idea this happened, thanks for sharing with us youngsters, Deep.

I'll get off your lawn now.

Sedale Threatt · Post #39 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:19 pm

Anklebreaker702 wrote:I want you to consider this Sedale. I absolutely believe he was elite level, but he was surrounded by 2 player who are in the elite 6. That's going to overshadow what ever you do on almost every night. Yet BGJ was able to still put his stamp on many many games with those 2 on the floor. Also he was the 1st option on a North Carolina team that had Michael Jordan.

I just want to be clear about my personal definition of elite here. On one hand, as a perennial All-Star and Hall of Famer, James was clearly an elite player in a broader sense. In this particular case, I'm talking about perennial MVP types, guys you could build a championship team around.

Personally, I don't think James was THAT good, and it's hardly an insult. There are only a handful of those guys in the league at any given time, and maybe 30 in the entire history of the game. I'd put him on the level of a Pau Gasol, a world-class second option but not good enough to carry the load for an entire franchise.

Again, not an insult, just respect to the guys who are on that upper, upper tier. Regardless, I loved James to death -- his game, his attitude, his style, everything. Players like him and Tim Duncan proved there is true beauty in simplicity.

Regarding Dominique, it's hard to argue with the success we had with James. Can't say I would change things if we could. JW was an absolutely perfect fit. It's just fun to think about Dominique and Magic on the same team. Showtime, indeed.

DEEP3CL · Post #40 » by **DEEP3CL** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:21 pm

Aki wrote:i knew it, but i don't count it

do the ABA teams count their ABA titles?

Only two of the 4 ABA teams absorbed won titles. That was the Indiana Pacers with 3 championships and the New Jersey Nets with 2 championships. The Spurs and Nuggets didn't win championships in the ABA.

But to answer the question, neither teams championships are recognized by NBA standards. Oddly though those 4 teams are still paying money to two brothers named Ozzie and Dan Silna, from the TV revenue the league generates each year. They'll collect for as long as the NBA exist, mainly because those two are responsible for the merge even happening. The Silna's owned the Saint Louis Spirits but they weren't invited to join the NBA during the merger, only the Spurs, Pacers, Nuggets and Nets were.

In simple terms the league cuts 31 checks, they receive one-seventh of the annual TV revenue from each of the four ABA teams entering the NBA. The league tried to wiggle out of it in 1982 and offered a 5 million over 5 years, Silna's countered with 8mil over 5 years. The league said F you and the Silna's said then keep paying what you've been paying.