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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#21 » by richboy » Mon Oct 1, 2012 1:52 am

Earl Clark is not a NBA player. He will rarely play and will have to work to stay on the team. That is the reality. He has 1 NBA skill. He is a decent perimeter defender. I only say decent because he hasn't played enough to actually spend much time defending elite players. Unfortunately he has no perimeter skills on offense. In essence he is a PF on offense and a SF on defense. If Earl Clark had been taken in the second round he wouldn't even be in the league right now. He was taken high though and has some good physical traits that keep him around. Simply put with Gasol, Jamison, and Hill at PF. With Dwight and Gasol playing heavy minutes. Your not going to play a SF with a PF offensive game. He is a 12th man or inactive player at best.
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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#22 » by So Gutta » Mon Oct 1, 2012 3:45 am

Clark has a chance to solidify himself as Metta's primary backup if he can impress in TC/Preseason. Ebanks has shown flashes, but if Clark can develop some of his potential, he could be another diamond-in-the-rough, like Jordan Hill turned out to be, especially defensively.

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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#23 » by richboy » Mon Oct 1, 2012 4:06 am

He was part of the deal because he sucks. He has a career PER of 8. Shoots 39% from the field. Has no offensive game. Your pretty much playing 4 on 5 basketball when he is in the game. He has never played more than 559 minutes in a year. Two teams that had nothing at SF couldn't use him. Yet he ready for prime time with the Lakers.

Jordan Hill was productive. His rookie year he was one of the most productive rookies per minute in the league. Jordan finally got an opportunity for regular minutes because the Knicks and Houston were looking for star players. A good role player taken in the lottery didn't excite them. Hill didn't do anything that Houston and Knick fans didn't see. Only difference when you have Gasol, Kobe, Bynum good role players are appreciated. The Knicks and Houston were filled with good role players and they were in search of a superstar.
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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#24 » by Al242 » Mon Oct 1, 2012 4:19 am

richboy wrote:He was part of the deal because he sucks. He has a career PER of 8. Shoots 39% from the field. Has no offensive game. Your pretty much playing 4 on 5 basketball when he is in the game. He has never played more than 559 minutes in a year. Two teams that had nothing at SF couldn't use him. Yet he ready for prime time with the Lakers.

Jordan Hill was productive. His rookie year he was one of the most productive rookies per minute in the league. Jordan finally got an opportunity for regular minutes because the Knicks and Houston were looking for star players. A good role player taken in the lottery didn't excite them. Hill didn't do anything that Houston and Knick fans didn't see. Only difference when you have Gasol, Kobe, Bynum good role players are appreciated. The Knicks and Houston were filled with good role players and they were in search of a superstar.


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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#25 » by richboy » Mon Oct 1, 2012 5:09 am

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richboy wrote:He was part of the deal because he sucks. He has a career PER of 8. Shoots 39% from the field. Has no offensive game. Your pretty much playing 4 on 5 basketball when he is in the game. He has never played more than 559 minutes in a year. Two teams that had nothing at SF couldn't use him. Yet he ready for prime time with the Lakers.

Jordan Hill was productive. His rookie year he was one of the most productive rookies per minute in the league. Jordan finally got an opportunity for regular minutes because the Knicks and Houston were looking for star players. A good role player taken in the lottery didn't excite them. Hill didn't do anything that Houston and Knick fans didn't see. Only difference when you have Gasol, Kobe, Bynum good role players are appreciated. The Knicks and Houston were filled with good role players and they were in search of a superstar.


Moderators can we do something about this Troll Pessimistic Laker Hater please? Dude take this crap to another forum


You obviously have no clue what your talking about. Of course when your on the board 1 month and tell someone who has been here years what they are it easy to look foolish. Laker hater LOL. I guess wasted a lot of time rooting for the Lakers.

No my post is a reality check. Unless your a blind homer it should have came off like that. I didn't say Kobe Bryant will suck. I didn't say Dwight sucked. I said Earl Clark. A player who has barely played in this league. Has never been in the rotation. Who was one of the least productive players in the league in his short career is not the answer at SF. If you ready to put him on the all-star team go right ahead.
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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#26 » by Al242 » Mon Oct 1, 2012 12:28 pm

@Richby: I really wonder what school you went to, because I will not send my children there, with that said no one said anything about expecting Earl Clark being on the allstar team. It does not matter if you said Kobe or Dwight suck, their all still a part of the Lakers. I am not rooting for Kobe or Dwight this season, I am rooting for the LAKERS and Earl Clark is the newest addition to our Lakers team so I am going to root for him to succeed just as much as I am going to root for Kobe/Dwight to succeed this year and if you cant understand that then you are not a Lakers fan, you are a Kobe/Dwight fan.

According to your analysis you described Earl Clark as " A player who has barely played in this league. Has never been in the rotation. Who was one of the least productive players in the league in his short career is not the answer at SF." If you looked at our roster and seen who our backup SF this year is? Its Devin Ebanks, he also "has never been in the rotation, is an unproductive player in the league and is not the answer to our SF". So were stuck with two options here Devin Ebanks or Earl Clark. I said that to say we dont have any proven backup SF's this year so instead of bashing what we DONT have, can you at least try to appreciate what we DO have.
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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#27 » by Stebo_SSK » Mon Oct 1, 2012 12:36 pm

Al242 wrote:
richboy wrote:He was part of the deal because he sucks. He has a career PER of 8. Shoots 39% from the field. Has no offensive game. Your pretty much playing 4 on 5 basketball when he is in the game. He has never played more than 559 minutes in a year. Two teams that had nothing at SF couldn't use him. Yet he ready for prime time with the Lakers.

Jordan Hill was productive. His rookie year he was one of the most productive rookies per minute in the league. Jordan finally got an opportunity for regular minutes because the Knicks and Houston were looking for star players. A good role player taken in the lottery didn't excite them. Hill didn't do anything that Houston and Knick fans didn't see. Only difference when you have Gasol, Kobe, Bynum good role players are appreciated. The Knicks and Houston were filled with good role players and they were in search of a superstar.


Moderators can we do something about this Troll Pessimistic Laker Hater please? Dude take this crap to another forum


How about you calm down and grow up. Nothing in that dude's post had anything to do with the Lakers. He gave his opinion about Earl Clark, which is the title of the thread. If you dont like or accept his opinion offer a better argument to it. Everything that doesnt revolve around what YOUR opinion is doesnt make it negative or hating.
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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#28 » by Stebo_SSK » Mon Oct 1, 2012 12:39 pm

Al242 wrote:@Richby: I really wonder what school you went to, because I will not send my children there, with that said no one said anything about expecting Earl Clark being on the allstar team. It does not matter if you said Kobe or Dwight suck, their all still a part of the Lakers. I am not rooting for Kobe or Dwight this season, I am rooting for the LAKERS and Earl Clark is the newest addition to our Lakers team so I am going to root for him to succeed just as much as I am going to root for Kobe/Dwight to succeed this year and if you cant understand that then you are not a Lakers fan, you are a Kobe/Dwight fan.

According to your analysis you described Earl Clark as " A player who has barely played in this league. Has never been in the rotation. Who was one of the least productive players in the league in his short career is not the answer at SF." If you looked at our roster and seen who our backup SF this year is? Its Devin Ebanks, he also "has never been in the rotation, is an unproductive player in the league and is not the answer to our SF". So were stuck with two options here Devin Ebanks or Earl Clark. I said that to say we dont have any proven backup SF's this year so instead of bashing what we DONT have, can you at least try to appreciate what we DO have.


When did he bash the Lakers? He pointed at that Earl Clark has barely been in a rotation in his NBA tenure, which is guess what? TRUE! All he is saying is just don't expect this dude to come in and be a great contributer to the team. I hope a man as sensitive as you doesn't have kids.
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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#29 » by Al242 » Mon Oct 1, 2012 12:44 pm

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Al242 wrote:@Richby: I really wonder what school you went to, because I will not send my children there, with that said no one said anything about expecting Earl Clark being on the allstar team. It does not matter if you said Kobe or Dwight suck, their all still a part of the Lakers. I am not rooting for Kobe or Dwight this season, I am rooting for the LAKERS and Earl Clark is the newest addition to our Lakers team so I am going to root for him to succeed just as much as I am going to root for Kobe/Dwight to succeed this year and if you cant understand that then you are not a Lakers fan, you are a Kobe/Dwight fan.

According to your analysis you described Earl Clark as " A player who has barely played in this league. Has never been in the rotation. Who was one of the least productive players in the league in his short career is not the answer at SF." If you looked at our roster and seen who our backup SF this year is? Its Devin Ebanks, he also "has never been in the rotation, is an unproductive player in the league and is not the answer to our SF". So were stuck with two options here Devin Ebanks or Earl Clark. I said that to say we dont have any proven backup SF's this year so instead of bashing what we DONT have, can you at least try to appreciate what we DO have.



When did he bash the Lakers? He pointed at that Earl Clark has barely been in a rotation in his NBA tenure, which is guess what? TRUE! All he is saying is just don't expect this dude to come in and be a great contributer to the team. I hope a man as sensitive as you doesn't have kids.


I never said he was bashing the Lakers, I said he was bashing what we dont have
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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#30 » by Al242 » Mon Oct 1, 2012 12:45 pm

Ok you win, Im done
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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#31 » by richboy » Mon Oct 1, 2012 6:57 pm

Al242 wrote:@Richby: I really wonder what school you went to, because I will not send my children there, with that said no one said anything about expecting Earl Clark being on the allstar team. It does not matter if you said Kobe or Dwight suck, their all still a part of the Lakers. I am not rooting for Kobe or Dwight this season, I am rooting for the LAKERS and Earl Clark is the newest addition to our Lakers team so I am going to root for him to succeed just as much as I am going to root for Kobe/Dwight to succeed this year and if you cant understand that then you are not a Lakers fan, you are a Kobe/Dwight fan.

According to your analysis you described Earl Clark as " A player who has barely played in this league. Has never been in the rotation. Who was one of the least productive players in the league in his short career is not the answer at SF." If you looked at our roster and seen who our backup SF this year is? Its Devin Ebanks, he also "has never been in the rotation, is an unproductive player in the league and is not the answer to our SF". So were stuck with two options here Devin Ebanks or Earl Clark. I said that to say we dont have any proven backup SF's this year so instead of bashing what we DONT have, can you at least try to appreciate what we DO have.


This isn't about what the Lakers don't have. It is about what can you expect from Earl Clark. Let me reiterate. Earl Clark has been on 2 teams that have had very little at his position yet he has been unable to find much playing time. This is despite the fact that both teams had high hopes that he would be the guy. Could that change with improvement from him. Anything is possible. What I'm saying is Earl Clark has not shown anything in his career to suggest he a full time rotation player.

If the question is what I expect to happen at the backup SF position. As of right now I would expect that Antawn Jamison and Kobe Bryant are going to find minutes at that spot. Jamison has played minutes at SF. Clark has almost been exclusively a PF. With Dwight Howard Jamison's short comings on defense are not nearly as big. Really the only way Jamison is going to play big minutes on this team is if some of it comes at SF. Whenever Dwight is playing you know Gasol and Howard will eat up 72 of the 96 total minutes at PF/C. For Jamison and Hill to both be in the rotation Antawn has to get minutes at SF. They are both much better players than Clark.

The only way Clark is going to find a way to get minutes on the floor is if he improves offensively or injuries to rotation players. As of right now his only offensive game is a bad 15 foot jump shot. It is tough for me to imagine a team running the Princeton offense, PNR, or post ups for Gasol/Dwight with Earl Clark getting heavy minutes as a SF. That isn't Laker hate. That is the reality of the situation.
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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#32 » by Hunter103 » Tue Oct 2, 2012 2:46 am

richboy wrote:He was part of the deal because he sucks. He has a career PER of 8. Shoots 39% from the field. Has no offensive game. Your pretty much playing 4 on 5 basketball when he is in the game. He has never played more than 559 minutes in a year. Two teams that had nothing at SF couldn't use him. Yet he ready for prime time with the Lakers.

Jordan Hill was productive. His rookie year he was one of the most productive rookies per minute in the league. Jordan finally got an opportunity for regular minutes because the Knicks and Houston were looking for star players. A good role player taken in the lottery didn't excite them. Hill didn't do anything that Houston and Knick fans didn't see. Only difference when you have Gasol, Kobe, Bynum good role players are appreciated. The Knicks and Houston were filled with good role players and they were in search of a superstar.


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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#33 » by LApwnd » Tue Oct 2, 2012 6:07 am

^^^Yea because he was playing behind a solid vet in Dale Davis and a really good PF in Sheed at the time, who exactly has Clark played behind all these years?
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Re: Earl Clark 

Post#34 » by CodyB_ » Wed Oct 3, 2012 11:29 pm

Earl Clark showed promise on a team, with a coach that plays favourites and sometimes benches players for no reason. I think in limited minutes, in the rights spots, and on the right guys, this guy can do some good things for the lakers and either contribute to the championship process or be trade bait.
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