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back to what i said a couple months back, i have some doubts about winning anything if we're going to build around dwight and only around dwight. there has to be someone else on the team, so that would make him "one face of the franchise". he can't be the lone premier guy, you have to be able to change the game on both sides of the court to earn that, he's only got one half down.
and i think the part about him not wanting what happened last year to happen again is telling. dwight and his people know they can't afford to have what went down go down again, both figuratively and literally.
and i think the part about him not wanting what happened last year to happen again is telling. dwight and his people know they can't afford to have what went down go down again, both figuratively and literally.
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Smdh this guy. Man I can honestly say I really haven't developed any attachment to DH12 since he has put on the purple n gold. The dude just comes off so selfish and for himself to me. The way he fouled Faried in Denver and after he was ejected seemed distant from his teammates. The way u hear Nash, Kobe, Gasol always preach about sacrifice to help the team win when Dwight reiterates his demand for more post touches ( with no real back to the basket game.) Now I know he's definitely been hurt this season and trying to play but its been really hard for me as a Laker fan since 85 to put stock into this being our next "franchise" player about Bean is gone. And thats why I always say if he leaves then he leaves so be it.

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AcecardZ wrote:One thing Laker superstars have in common... Shaq, Kobe, Bynum and Dwight.
They've all given interviews that LA fans have perceived to be less than encouraging.
Did you just call Bynum a Superstar?


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iamworthy wrote:AcecardZ wrote:One thing Laker superstars have in common... Shaq, Kobe, Bynum and Dwight.
They've all given interviews that LA fans have perceived to be less than encouraging.
Did you just call Bynum a Superstar?
Bynum was an all star, more by default than due to sheer talent but whatever, and there were tons of Lakers fans that didn't want him traded for Dwight who is clearly a superstar.
Bynum is clearly perceived to be a superstar by many fans but If your point is that he's not on the level of Kobe, Durant or Lebron I'd definitely agree with you.
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iamworthy wrote:AcecardZ wrote:One thing Laker superstars have in common... Shaq, Kobe, Bynum and Dwight.
They've all given interviews that LA fans have perceived to be less than encouraging.
Did you just call Bynum a Superstar?

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AcecardZ wrote:iamworthy wrote:AcecardZ wrote:One thing Laker superstars have in common... Shaq, Kobe, Bynum and Dwight.
They've all given interviews that LA fans have perceived to be less than encouraging.
Did you just call Bynum a Superstar?
Bynum was an all star, more by default than due to sheer talent but whatever, and there were tons of Lakers fans that didn't want him traded for Dwight who is clearly a superstar.
Bynum is clearly perceived to be a superstar by many fans but If your point is that he's not on the level of Kobe, Durant or Lebron I'd definitely agree with you.
nobody perceives bynum to be superstar. just because you're an all star doesn't mean you're a superstar. by your reasoning that would make luol deng superstar no?
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@Destro
Perhaps I used the term a little looser than I should have? I, for one, don't perceive Bynum to be a superstar in the sense that he's not a top 30 all time talent but he's capable of playing as well or better than any other center in the league when he's healthy, which admitedly isn't very often, and this is enough for some to elevate him to superstar status.
Perhaps I used the term a little looser than I should have? I, for one, don't perceive Bynum to be a superstar in the sense that he's not a top 30 all time talent but he's capable of playing as well or better than any other center in the league when he's healthy, which admitedly isn't very often, and this is enough for some to elevate him to superstar status.
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2014 lakers line up
PG Wall
SG Paul George
SF Melo
PF Lebron
C Howard

PG Wall
SG Paul George
SF Melo
PF Lebron
C Howard

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@Minge...
Nash has sacrificed some also, he allows Kobe to facilitate with the ball at times. Which regulates him to being a spot up 3 point shooter (which he's really good at btw). And I wouldnt put the Dantoni hire solely on Nash, that was a Jerry and Jim Buss decision to hire him over Phil. Now they might have done the hire for Nash (which i never understood personally) it wasn't Steve's call who the Buss family decided to hire. They envisioned this roster playing Showtime basketball smh but in reality this roster needs to be playing more Slowtime basketball
Nash has sacrificed some also, he allows Kobe to facilitate with the ball at times. Which regulates him to being a spot up 3 point shooter (which he's really good at btw). And I wouldnt put the Dantoni hire solely on Nash, that was a Jerry and Jim Buss decision to hire him over Phil. Now they might have done the hire for Nash (which i never understood personally) it wasn't Steve's call who the Buss family decided to hire. They envisioned this roster playing Showtime basketball smh but in reality this roster needs to be playing more Slowtime basketball

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well guess what, nash is sacrificing whether he likes it or not. he's practically the off-guard now
everyone sacrifices whether they like it or not with kobe
everyone sacrifices whether they like it or not with kobe

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Aki wrote:well guess what, nash is sacrificing whether he likes it or not. he's practically the off-guard now
everyone sacrifices whether they like it or not with kobe
it's not as simple as that though. Lakers just want to be less predictable. there will still be times that Nash operates in the pick and roll. if the team was deeper, and Kobe could get more rest, they wouldn't have to play together so much and Nash would lead a Bryant-less unit more often.
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Minge wrote:You’re absolutely wrong. Nash was sacrificing in the “Princeton” offense and Nash was the only player struggling in that offense. Do you know why the team initially wanted the “Princeton” offense? It took advantage of their post players: Bryant, Gasol (he was actually leading the team in shots) and Howard (ie. their best players). What does the team do? Hired a head coach who caters specifically to Nash. It puts the ball in Nash’s hands the entire game. How can you possibly spin that as sacrifice? Why do you argue that Nash isn’t the reason the team signed D’Antoni? The only other reason that I can think of is raising the trade value of otherwise untradeable players: Artest, Duhon, et cetera. (ie. his job in NY).
Coming off the bench? That’s sacrifice.
Playing off guard, lead guard, small forward, point guard defender, et cetera? That’s sacrifice.
Having the ball in his hands the entire game? Yeah, I’m sure every player on the team wants that role.
I dont agree with that assessment at all. Now I respect you have your opinion but in the case of Mike Brown the Princeton offense ( principles of it) were brought in before we even got Nash (and Howard). He never made any adjustments to accomindate Nash abilities then, and Nash still wasnt vocal with any complaining to the media (Well we wouldnt know if would've happened because he got injured the 2nd game) . Then on the other hand Nash didnt have say so on who hired Mike D.... Its on record from Jim Buss and Jerry themselves that they both agreed on hiring Mike D after Brown was fired for Nash. Not Nash telling them to hire MIke D so he be able to play a certain style. Even now Nash shares the faciliating responsiblity with Kobe and vice versa. Both players are used to having the ball in their hands 80% of the time in their career. How isnt that a form of sacrificing?

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16 more days to go...
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TyCobb wrote:16 more days to go...
16 championships Lakers won, 16 years since Shaq became a Laker, 16 years Lakers drafted Kobe, 16 (Pau) our savior from mediocrity in 2008.
The number 16 has been good to us. Also not sure if it has been 16 years since we got shaq and Kobe but it sounded good

Here's to hoping something happens in 16 days

But highly unlikely that anything happens. Wish we could fast forward to October already and start over lol.
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TyCobb wrote:16 more days to go...
16 championships Lakers won, 16 years since Shaq became a Laker, 16 years Lakers drafted Kobe, 16 (Pau) our savior from mediocrity in 2008.
The number 16 has been good to us. Also not sure if it has been 16 years since we got shaq and Kobe but it sounded good

Here's to hoping something happens in 16 days

But highly unlikely that anything happens. Wish we could fast forward to October already and start over lol.