Nash / Kobe facilitating duo may dominate league.

[Patman]

You are right they aren't exactly dominating to an 80% win clip. I'll just go out and say they are the best backcourt in the NBA.

*speaking of guards it's funny that the recent success the Lakers are having is still based upon guard play not center/post up oriented play. Everyone thought we should be playing off the big men, but the Lakers are actually winning off of Kobe and Nash.

That's because the bigs aren't being used properly. Dwight thinks he's Hakeem b/c he spent a few hours with Hakeem. And MDA is using Pau as some sort of Bosh/LO hybrid when he has the best low-post arsenal this side of Z-Bo. Yes, Pau can stretch his range on a good day, but that's not where he's most dangerous. It's like if the Mavs used Dirk as primarily a stretch-4 (Ryan Anderson role) just b/c he CAN make threes.

[therobg125]

leep...if they cant finish games because they're tired and they're giving up huge leads...and kobe's turning the ball over as if it's noone's business nash CANT play def, and kobe WONT play def...then either way you wanna slice the cake...it's not dominating....i understand scoring....but scoring is only one aspect of dominating....dominant players shut the opposition down on a nightly basis....shows me where you've seen this consistantly from any of our players....they're playing well in certain aspects...but dominating at all facets of the game...they are not my friend....

[GeneralNash]

leep...if they cant finish games because they're tired and they're giving up huge leads...and kobe's turning the ball over as if it's noone's business nash CANT play def, and kobe WONT play def...then either way you wanna slice the cake...it's not dominating....i understand scoring....but scoring is only one aspect of dominating....dominant players shut the opposition down on a nightly basis....shows me where you've seen this consistantly from any of our players....they're playing well in certain aspects...but dominating at all facets of the game...they are not my friend....

Don't matter. When Nash is making kareem-esque hook shots in the paint at will that is dominating. The team defense has been very good as of late. No howard, no gasol = small ball city. Welcome to Nash's domain. You're welcome.

Have to add that you do not have to dominate every aspect of the game to be dominant. Look at shaq for example...most dominant player ever to play the game but he did not dominate every aspect of the game lol.

Kobe/nash duo dominates with their high iq, leadership, facilitating, and scoring ability.

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[leeprettyp]

leep...if they cant finish games because they're tired and they're giving up huge leads...and kobe's turning the ball over as if it's noone's business nash CANT play def, and kobe WONT play def...then either way you wanna slice the cake...it's not dominating....i understand scoring....but scoring is only one aspect of dominating....dominant players shut the opposition down on a nightly basis....shows me where you've seen this consistantly from any of our players....they're playing well in certain aspects...but dominating at all facets of the game...they are not my friend....

Its not he cant but you do realize he has to cheat off of his man to help over on Nash man. For instance if we didnt use that strategy against the Nets the other night. Dwill would've just attacked Nash on the offensive end and/or posted him up on the block. We basically went with the strategy that we're willing to take the 3pt shooting chances on historical bad 3 point shooters compared to allowing one person to get in the paint and rim and also break the defense down. Does Kobe get lazy on defense at times of course. But bothers me how people act like EVERY player (especially on this years team including Dwight) not just on this team but in the NBA doesnt takes plays off on that end or misses defensive assignments or rebounds. The idea of GeneralNash thread was to draw attention to how great both Nash and Kobe are starting to become on the court while playing together (both are faciliating and scoring and were having success) If you dont notice it or want to notice it because their not flying threw the air and jumping over people thats your being short sighted to just how skillful and great both of these guys are on the court

[therobg125]

soo you're definition of DOMINANCE...not playing good or even great ball...but dominance..is just being able to score a few hook shots in the paint?....well wouldn't lebron and wade...and the guys i have previously mentioned who are dominant...wouldn't the fact that they're dunking on ppl in the paint and playing better def. and shooting a better clip be,well, more dominant? but i guess not...sorry but my def. of dominance doesn't change just because we won 5 games outta god knows and nash is scoring a hook shot or two...my definition of DOMINANCE...as in dominanting a team or player is shutting them down completely on def. and doing whatever you want to on offense against the opposition....soo if nash is getting beat by the opposition and kobe has to help out...and then kobe's man in return starts going off....we lose 20 pt leads constantly...you said they can't play more than 35 mins or they will get tired and in return get burned and "dominated," then in what way are kobe and nash dominating....my bad i forgot nash is dominating because he hits 1 or 2 hook shots and kobe's dominating because he's shooting 8-30....(they were dominant in their primes)...but this quite frankly in my OPINION is not dominating...can any of you give me some DOMINATING (not good or great but dominant) stats from these guys? like have we even shut down any team this season, even after being up by 20 + pts.?

[albasuna]

Can you guys just realize that you are looking at the same word but giving it different meanings. You're both right.

[leeprettyp]

soo you're definition of DOMINANCE...not playing good or even great ball...but dominance..is just being able to score a few hook shots in the paint?....well wouldn't lebron and wade...and the guys i have previously mentioned who are dominant...wouldn't the fact that they're dunking on ppl in the paint and playing better def. and shooting a better clip be,well, more dominant? but i guess not...sorry but my def. of dominance doesn't change just because we won 5 games outta god knows and nash is scoring a hook shot or two...my definition of DOMINANCE...as in dominanting a team or player is shutting them down completely on def. and doing whatever you want to on offense against the opposition....soo if nash is getting beat by the opposition and kobe has to help out...and then kobe's man in return starts going off....we lose 20 pt leads constantly...you said they can't play more than 35 mins or they will get tired and in return get burned and "dominated," then in what way are kobe and nash dominating....my bad i forgot nash is dominating because he hits 1 or 2 hook shots and kobe's dominating because he's shooting 8-30....(they were dominant in their primes)...but this quite frankly in my OPINION is not dominating...can any of you give me some DOMINATING (not good or great but dominant) stats from these guys? like have we even shut down any team this season, even after being up by 20 + pts.?

Houston and Golden State games in LA this season we dominated both of those games. Just off the top of my head. Kobe has had dominate individual games against the Spurs, OKC and the Knick's and Nash has had his moments this season like the Golden State game on the road. Nash dominance of a game isnt always gonna be on a stat sheet sir. Look at the pace of the game and how he gets people open looks and good shots.

[LGND2552]

For some disgusting reason, I just want to see a game with Kobe+Scrubs against the bobcats.

[Kevaroo]

Had to come in here and laugh at this thread. You are saying 2 guys with a combined age of 72 can dominate the guard positions in this league. How'd the domination go against a .531 team last night? I mean be realistic here. Thanks for the laughs.

[Kevaroo]

Had to come in here and laugh at this thread. You are saying 2 guys with a combined age of 72 can dominate the guard positions in this league. How'd the domination go against a .531 team last night? I mean be realistic here. Thanks for the laughs.

[GeneralNash]

Had to come in here and laugh at this thread. You are saying 2 guys with a combined age of 72 can dominate the guard positions in this league. How'd the domination go against a .531 team last night? I mean be realistic here. Thanks for the laughs.

For whatever reason kobe went away from facilitating. When both (nash, kobe) facilitate and play a well balanced game this team wins. This team is on the latter part of a long road trip with both bigs injured.

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[leeprettyp]

Had to come in here and laugh at this thread. You are saying 2 guys with a combined age of 72 can dominate the guard positions in this league. How'd the domination go against a .531 team last night? I mean be realistic here. Thanks for the laughs.

For whatever reason kobe went away from facilitating. When both (nash, kobe) facilitate and play a well balanced game this team wins. This team is on the latter part of a long road trip with both bigs injured.

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You cant record and asst bro if people are missing open shots. Kobe only shot 15fg's the boston game I believe off the top of my head

[IamBBAnalysis]

Had to come in here and laugh at this thread. You are saying 2 guys with a combined age of 72 can dominate the guard positions in this league. How'd the domination go against a .531 team last night? I mean be realistic here. Thanks for the laughs.

For whatever reason kobe went away from facilitating. When both (nash, kobe) facilitate and play a well balanced game this team wins. This team is on the latter part of a long road trip with both bigs injured.

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Kobe and Nash were fine. They are not going to dominate the league at their age though but they can be dominating if the other guys also help. Unfortunately, no Gasol, Dwight was terrible, and the shooters could not shoot (Meeks & Artest primarily but Clark decided to cool down too).

Plus Boston is a lot better than people think and they were just making shots. But they played with much more energy on D then the Lakers too.