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Re: Reason why both Dwight and Kobe were skeptical 

Post#221 » by leeprettyp » Fri Feb 8, 2013 2:59 pm

This team misses the team chemistry and unselfish ways that Lamar Odom and Derek Fisher brought to this team. We got to many players with hidden agendas, who run there mouths to the media (team only meetings that leak) and players who know and want to play their roles (prime example Ariza, Sasha, Josh Powell). Tooo many people who demand their share of shots if their gonna play defense and play hard. Character goes a LONGGGG way and this season was a prime example of it
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Re: Reason why both Dwight and Kobe were skeptical 

Post#222 » by Kobe System » Fri Feb 8, 2013 3:16 pm

leeprettyp wrote:This team misses the team chemistry and unselfish ways that Lamar Odom and Derek Fisher brought to this team. We got to many players with hidden agendas, who run there mouths to the media (team only meetings that leak) and players who know and want to play their roles (prime example Ariza, Sasha, Josh Powell). Tooo many people who demand their share of shots if their gonna play defense and play hard. Character goes a LONGGGG way and this season was a prime example of it


Sounds like Dwight, right? A defensive specialist who is playing an average defense this year who demands the ball but doesn't have a single post move and who is a very bad free throw shooter. A diva who brought stat sheet in the locker room, crying for touches when in fact, he is getting a lot but what's happening is either he'll get stripped or he'll get fouled and brick his free throws. A player who is already cleared to play but doesn't want to because he is thinking about HIS "future" while getting payed $19M.

Kobe already adjusted his game. Nash as well. Pau, who is a way better post player, already made himself a stretch four just to give Dwight space to operate inside.
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Re: Reason why both Dwight and Kobe were skeptical 

Post#223 » by Ballah » Fri Feb 8, 2013 4:00 pm

Even at his best Dwight was very iffy as a first option. Look at that Magic finals team, Lewis and Turkoglu stepped up massively, not to mention their bench players carried a lot of the load that year. Dwight did good because teams had to worry about Lewis Turk ReddicK Prietus and Alston raining crazy amounts of threes on them.
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Re: Reason why both Dwight and Kobe were skeptical 

Post#224 » by Cashin out » Fri Feb 8, 2013 4:09 pm

Kobe is going to run Dwight out of town.

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Re: Reason why both Dwight and Kobe were skeptical 

Post#225 » by One Love » Fri Feb 8, 2013 7:04 pm

D12 is OVER RATED... I know he is hurt but given the fact he has back problems already the chances of him playing great for 5 to 6 years is LOW... He is not a WINNER and doens't deserve a max contract... He is our 5th best low post player behind Pau, Kobe, Artest & Hill... I am tired of watching him play... Lets trade him now for ASSETS and move forward accordingly... A threeway with Nets that brings K LOve to LA would be fine with me...
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The most bothersome part of the Lakers' 2012-13 season 

Post#226 » by AcecardZ » Fri Feb 8, 2013 7:17 pm

Ok so as Lakers fans we all went into the season with pretty high hopes. We go into most seasons with high hopes but with the acquisitions of Dwight and Nash this year was supposed to be special.

So far it's been anything but special.

0-8 preseason
Steve Nash's injury
1-5 start to the season
Mike Brown's firing
D'Antoni's hiring (many didn't approve)
Steve Blakes injury
Pau struggling with Plantar Fascitis (he looked awful out there for over a month)
Jordan Hill's injury
Poor free throw shooting
Uptempo offense, D'Antoni's offense, clearly not working the way we had hoped.
Dwight's shoulder injury.
Kobe's battling elbow tendonitis. (when is he not battling something?)
Pau's resurgence only to partially tear his Plantar Fascia ligament

Let's face it we've had quite a bit go wrong this year. If I left anything out please feel free to tack onto the already lengthy list.

Teams aren't going to make it through a season without injury or some sort of drama to keep things interesting especially not our Lakers. Now, of all the things that have me frustrated there's one particular thing that bugs me more than anything else. The damn media!!! They can't wait to print some story about Kobe saying this to Dwight or Dwight suggesting he doesn't like the coach or Pau isn't happy coming off the bench. Whatever it may be the damn media can't wait to take a little nugget of info and blow it up into some huge story. None of that helps our struggling team. It doesn't bring our team together. it only serves to tear it apart and create more drama which is exactly what the media wants. They could care less if the Lakers are winning. The don't need the Lakers to win when they can get plenty of people reading their stories about how Dwight and Kobe don't like one another or how Dwight doesn't care for MDA or whatever garbage they want to sling that particular day.

The media isn't responsible for all of our problems, they didn't cause any of our players to get injured, but they sure as hell aren't helping matters much by constantly pitting one player against another. The fact the team is struggling isn't enough newsworthy material for them. They need to dig deeper into the wound in an effort to open it up and make matters worse.

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Other than our poor record what's been the most bothersome part of the season to you?
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Re: The most bothersome part of the Lakers' 2012-13 season 

Post#227 » by Kilroy » Fri Feb 8, 2013 7:58 pm

The most bothersome part for me has been a lack of intensity and passion.
I think Mike Brown was guilty of it.
I think Pau was guilty of it until he figured out he had one foot out the door anyway.
I think D'Antoni was guilty of it at first.
And Dwight continues to be guilty of it.

Everyone from the FO down vastly underestimated how difficult this season was going to be. And as a result many of them made it even more difficult. But to me, all of them have pretty much figured it out except Dwight.

Dwight is acting like the only guy on the team with a get out of Jail free card...
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Re: OFFICIAL VENT THREAD 2013 (Merges Ongoing) 

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Re: The most bothersome part of the Lakers' 2012-13 season 

Post#229 » by IamBBAnalysis » Fri Feb 8, 2013 8:24 pm

Kilroy wrote:The most bothersome part for me has been a lack of intensity and passion.
I think Mike Brown was guilty of it.
I think Pau was guilty of it until he figured out he had one foot out the door anyway.
I think D'Antoni was guilty of it at first.
And Dwight continues to be guilty of it.

Everyone from the FO down vastly underestimated how difficult this season was going to be. And as a result many of them made it even more difficult. But to me, all of them have pretty much figured it out except Dwight.

Dwight is acting like the only guy on the team with a get out of Jail free card...


I agree. Nash & Kobe too early did not always play with intensity. Nash maybe because of injury and because of the new team...but he has been more aggressive lately. Kobe early on did not always play with much passion on defense. I think all the guys thought this was going to be easy and it obviously has been the opposite.
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Re: OFFICIAL VENT THREAD 2013 (Merges Ongoing) 

Post#230 » by albasuna » Fri Feb 8, 2013 8:49 pm




haha wtf. Does he not remember the Lakers getting steamrolled in game 6 of the NBA finals by those same Celtics? Him saying he's embarrassed to have played as a Laker is outright arrogant and disrespectful. Dude is embarrassing himself.
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Re: OFFICIAL VENT THREAD 2013 (Merges Ongoing) 

Post#231 » by Kilroy » Fri Feb 8, 2013 8:54 pm

I was embarrassed to be a fan of the Lakers last night... Not sure what Magic said is any different.

The Celtics are good... But not good enough to blow us out that bad. It should have been a close, low scoring game.

It was, in all respects, an embarrassment for this team.
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Re: OFFICIAL VENT THREAD 2013 (Merges Ongoing) 

Post#232 » by leeprettyp » Fri Feb 8, 2013 9:00 pm

They'll get them back on the 20th at Staples. They dont have a choice but to send some payback
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Re: The most bothersome part of the Lakers' 2012-13 season 

Post#233 » by AcecardZ » Sat Feb 9, 2013 1:05 am

Kilroy wrote:Everyone from the FO down vastly underestimated how difficult this season was going to be. And as a result many of them made it even more difficult. But to me, all of them have pretty much figured it out except Dwight.

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I think the FO underestimated how hard it was going to be and the players all underestimated how hard it was going to be also. The injuries were unpredictable, and damn we've had a **** of injuries, and Dwight's back taking so long to recover wasn't predictable either.

There are things about Dwight that bug a lot of people. One of those things is his nervous laugh. I'm only speculating but a lot of times when things don't go right he laughs and to me it seems much more like a nervous laugh than a "I don't give a ****" laugh." Obviously I have no way of knowing for sure but man if the guy just didn't care he wouldn't be on the court playing. He has quite a good history of being an ironman so there's really no reason to believe he's faking it when it comes to his health. This is a contract year for him and he's going to show anything and everything he's capable of in an effort to get as large of a contract as possible. (one would think anyway)
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Re: OFFICIAL VENT THREAD 2013 (Merges Ongoing) 

Post#234 » by AcecardZ » Sat Feb 9, 2013 1:09 am

Kilroy wrote:I was embarrassed to be a fan of the Lakers last night... Not sure what Magic said is any different.

The Celtics are good... But not good enough to blow us out that bad. It should have been a close, low scoring game.

It was, in all respects, an embarrassment for this team.


Extremely embarrassing but... Boston is a savvy, veteran team, on a hot streak playing at home. Since Rondo's injury they've rallied and played very good basketball. We were without Pau, a guy who had been playing great lately, and with a 50% Dwight and in the middle of a long road trip that's been very taxing. That's just not a situations that's going to work out well for us very often. Still very embarrassing though.
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