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Durins Baynes wrote:Well yeh, Melo is clearly a pipedream. He's not going anywhere. He's proven in the past how much money means to him. Plus he's not a good fit with Kobe at all.
Durins Baynes wrote:We can tell how much money means to Melo based on his actions. He's had two chances to sacrifice money for winning and he's turned them both down decisively. And this was a lot less money than what he'd lose by going to LA.
Name me the last player who during their prime, has sacrificed 20-25 million a year under the CBA at the time, to "win."
Durins Baynes wrote:Name me the last player who during their prime, has sacrificed 20-25 million a year under the CBA at the time, to "win."
It almost never happens. That's the point. Melo would lose money by going from NY to LA (and not necessarily win more).
Melo has had two chances to sacrifice a little money in exchange for winning. When Lebron, Wade and Bosh were busy signing shorter max deals in order to potentially leave early. Melo was asked if he'd do that, and he said his father told him he'd be an idiot to do it, risking that much money, Then, when forcing his way to NY, all he had to do was wait until the end of his contract, and he'd be able to force a S&T for something token (like Lebron and Bosh did). Instead, rather than risk the potential loss of money under the new CBA, his people told NY to give up the assets Denver needed to get a deal done now, or he'd agree to a trade to the Nets. A bluff most likely, but one the Knicks couldn't call. They traded a stack for him, making themselves much less likely to win.
It makes the idea Melo will give up money (which the new CBA guarantees, unlike those 2 situations where he only potentially was losing money) seem unlikely. It also doesn't help him endorsement wise, he's going to hurt his brand which is firmly established as NY.
LakeShowAK7 wrote:1. It wasn't a "little" like you are proclaiming. He was going to end up sacrificing on the upwards of $25 million to team up elsewhere. The Big 3 didn't sign "short max deals" either; 1) they were 6 year contracts with ETO's and PO's which are fully guaranteed and controlled by the player, not the team and 2) They each left about 2.5 million on the table each year. Also they were going to get ETO's and PO's no matter where they went, so your short deal point is something I don't understand and frankly makes no sense as ETO's and PO's were a way to make a contract seem more lucrative to the player during that time because money was being thrown around like hot cakes on Sunday morning.
2. He should ask Kobe what his brand is like in LA, consider Kobe crushed Melo in endorsement earnings this past year per Forbes. I guess that NY brand isn't as lucrative as it could be elsewhere.