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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#321 » by EArl » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:11 am

moonpie wrote:The good news is that anyone that wants a surefire tank commander would love to have Pau Gasol on their team. The bad news is that he makes almost 20 million dollars.

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The good news is that he's an expiring.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#322 » by moonpie » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:13 am

EArl wrote:
moonpie wrote:The good news is that anyone that wants a surefire tank commander would love to have Pau Gasol on their team. The bad news is that he makes almost 20 million dollars.

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The good news is that he's an expiring.


I'd like to have him expire on the bench 8-)
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#323 » by Leor_77 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:14 am

The way the team is playing right now, I feel we're going to be going through a very bad period of losses. Not as bad as Brooklyn/Knicks...Then again, who knows? Maybe it will be that bad.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#324 » by denimourson » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:14 am

Mirjalovic wrote:cant watch the game, how is Kobe looks ?


Shaking the rust off already, it just that his teammates not moving with him having the ball.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#325 » by Slava » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:15 am

You guys need to be realistic, the ceiling for this team even in the best case scenario is close to 45 wins and even that is not going to get you near the playoffs in the west this season.

We realistically need to be better than DENVER because OKC, SPURS, WARRIORS, CLIPPERS, MAVERICKS, BLAZERS, HOUSTON are locks to make the playoffs.

Barring any injuries to any of these teams I don't see us being better than any of them and MInnesota might be better than us.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#326 » by moonpie » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:15 am

Leor_77 wrote:The way the team is playing right now, I feel we're going to be going through a very bad period of losses. Not as bad as Brooklyn/Knicks...Then again, who knows? Maybe it will be that bad.


It will never be as bad as the New York teams because we actually own our first round pick this year :lol:
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#327 » by moonpie » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:16 am

Jordan Farmar is the MVP of this team btw.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#328 » by denimourson » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:18 am

moonpie wrote:The good news is that anyone that wants a surefire tank commander would love to have Pau Gasol on their team. The bad news is that he makes almost 20 million dollars.

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trade him to the Raptors or Jazz for Lawrey
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#329 » by ennui » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:18 am

moonpie wrote:
EArl wrote:
moonpie wrote:The good news is that anyone that wants a surefire tank commander would love to have Pau Gasol on their team. The bad news is that he makes almost 20 million dollars.

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The good news is that he's an expiring.


I'd like to have him expire on the bench 8-)


At this point I wouldnt mind if he expired in a hospital bed

Nah... too far. He sucks ass though.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#330 » by Mirjalovic » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:21 am

Nash for Lowry, and Pau for Deng + Noah. Yeah that will happen.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#331 » by EArl » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:22 am

Time for Pau to go back to med school.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#332 » by Leor_77 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:22 am

Part of the problem is that our defensive philosophy is to funnel people into our bigs (our coaches talk about it all the time). With how bad Gasol is defensively, this is exactly what you're going to get.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#333 » by gotokyo » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:23 am

Some of the trades being spewed out around here.... :lol:


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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#334 » by Anklebreaker702 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:24 am

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Anklebreaker702 wrote:Actually not surprised with the loses. We have to realize that Kobe is probably our worst player as of right now. Not being disparaging towards him i'm saying as in he has to get back in shape & coming off of a serious injury.

So to have him in the starting line up is the equivalent of taking 1 step backwards to end up 2 steps forward. We''ll be fine



Our starting lineup has been horrible all season. I thought Kobe played well tonight. I just didnt come into these 1st month of games with high expectations like it seems most people have. Its no way a guy can comeback to playing at the NBA level after sitting out 8months (half the time laying in bed eating) then expect to play at a superstar level. Its just not happening. I even go back to the 2006 season when Kobe was coming back from that knee surgery. Remember how sluggish he looked then? And that was when he was just entering his prime

Absolutely. This is why I said we'll be fine. When you've kept your body in the shape Kobe has over all thee yea, it won't take him extremely long to get back in shape even with his age.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#335 » by Anklebreaker702 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:27 am

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Anklebreaker702 wrote:Actually not surprised with the loses. We have to realize that Kobe is probably our worst player as of right now. Not being disparaging towards him i'm saying as in he has to get back in shape & coming off of a serious injury.

So to have him in the starting line up is the equivalent of taking 1 step backwards to end up 2 steps forward. We''ll be fine


I think he also needs to work into getting good chemistry with the team. The flow and pace of the game is definitely different with him back.

We also need Farmar back :(

Definitely missing Farmar. Chemistry will come. Not even worried about it. Still very early in the season
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#336 » by leeprettyp » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:34 am

Leor_77 wrote:Part of the problem is that our defensive philosophy is to funnel people into our bigs (our coaches talk about it all the time). With how bad Gasol is defensively, this is exactly what you're going to get.



We're running the same defensive scheme we did back with our 3 finals run team with Prime Odom, Bynum and prime Gasol. The game has changed so much with scoring from the PG position. But in reality the main problem is we dont punish teams enough in the post for playing small ball on us. When Morris blocked Pau left hand hook in the post with so much ease... Its obvious teams and players dont fear Pau in the post anymore.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#337 » by what would jack bauer do? » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:34 am

^Yeah all I could think about when Dragic and Bledsoe were killing us was Farmar would've been a real difference maker. He probably wouldn't have done much against Bledsoe, but he could've gotten up into the chest of Dragic and made it a physical game.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#338 » by timdunkit » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:29 pm

Watching this team play defense is awful.

But honestly, the blame goes on management as well. We've changed our ways because of D'antoni and there is so much emphasis on offense that we've lost any sort of defensive identity we had from the championship runs.

You have one of the best iso-scorers to ever play the game. You don't need to surround him with so much offensive talent. You need more defensive players to hide his weaknesses. The same goes to Pau. As terrible as he has been, if he is going to be featured, we also need to make up for his weaknesses.

Eventually, Kobe will get back to form. He's looked slow at times, gassed out and he clearly doesn't have the vertical or first step explosion we are used to seeing but man you can tell the fundamentals are there.

If we are going to continue to play small ball (because D'antoni has no knowledge on how to coach a team without a "stretch 4"), I'd like to see Blake/Kobe/Xavier/WJ/Pau start together. A little more quickness and athleticism in the line up.
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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#339 » by leeprettyp » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:28 pm

timdunkit wrote:Watching this team play defense is awful.

But honestly, the blame goes on management as well. We've changed our ways because of D'antoni and there is so much emphasis on offense that we've lost any sort of defensive identity we had from the championship runs.

You have one of the best iso-scorers to ever play the game. You don't need to surround him with so much offensive talent. You need more defensive players to hide his weaknesses. The same goes to Pau. As terrible as he has been, if he is going to be featured, we also need to make up for his weaknesses.

Eventually, Kobe will get back to form. He's looked slow at times, gassed out and he clearly doesn't have the vertical or first step explosion we are used to seeing but man you can tell the fundamentals are there.

If we are going to continue to play small ball (because D'antoni has no knowledge on how to coach a team without a "stretch 4"), I'd like to see Blake/Kobe/Xavier/WJ/Pau start together. A little more quickness and athleticism in the line up.



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Re: GT: LAKERS VS SUNS 12/10/13 7:30 TWCSN 

Post#340 » by Boarder Patrol » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:00 pm

I thought Kobe looked really good last night. Needs a few more months before the athleticism is all back (or, as "back" as it's going to get). He did a great job of picking his spots and using intelligence to score.

The chemistry isn't there though. Pau needs to have his minutes cut.

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