Los Angeles Lakers seek new Head Coach?

[Doormatt]

the only thing ive known doc to be a stan of is lamar odom, which is pretty well known to most people i think. definitely a nash fan too but the other stuff is pretty out of left field.

anyways, i think the point that most of you are missing is that the only reason any of us defend Mike Dantoni or Jim Buss is cuz some of you want to blame them for all of our troubles. you dont want to blame kobe, the team, the talent (or lack thereof), bad luck or anything else. well maybe you'll blame howard but those 2 are the main culprits. and its just so childish and stupid to blame them when the lakers arent even that bad off. you also dont give buss any credit for the positive things hes done, which makes it impossible to even debate anything with you. and then people come up with stupid nicknames like Mike Antoni (HAHA GET IT NO D) or Jim Shortbuss and then i feel like im talking to teenagers and wonder why i even post on this board.

its like just **** accept that we suck because the person taking up all our cap is hurt and old and we lost dwight howard. there is no one to blame for this, just ACCEPT IT. when jim buss actually makes questionable decisions then we can criticize him and call for his head. jim buss looks like a douche to me but he hasnt done the franchise ruining things you guys seem to think hes done. and i agree Mike Dantoni is not a good coach, but he is the best option we had available at the time and hes the best option right now. im 100% for hiring a young coach like Vogel, Clifford or Hornacek to come and in and make a name for themselves, but we have yet to find this person (or maybe we have and were waiting for the offseason).

the absolute last thing the lakers should do is fire Mike D because you all want his head and hire someone like Hollins or Karl that will take this team absolutely nowhere.

[DwnShft2Xcelr8]

I don't really see the Lakers having a true championship contending team for the next couple of seasons (I hope I'm wrong but I doubt I will be), so at this point, I'd just like a young coach who we can build with for the future. I want the Lakers to have someone who will fit our long-term goals and needs. No more random coaches who have been fired from numerous jobs.
Only one I'd be willing to give a chance to is Hollins because he seems to know what he is doing. He made this basically same Memphis roster look like a deep playoff threat last season.

Hell, I'd love to see KAJ enter the NBA as a coach. Might as well give him a chance if he's willing to take it.

[GeorgeDillion]

Didn't that post just switch blame from one side the Jim/MDA to "the person taking up all our cap is hurt and old" side?

I get it everyone is frustrated but blame can be given to both sides, Its up to Jim and Mitch to fix this situation, because they have all the power there's nothing Kome, Mike Antoni, Steve Trash or Pau Gasoft can do about it.

[indilakeshow]

so we would replace Mike D'Antoni for... George Karl. That's like replacing Tex Winter with Phil Jackson. George Karl runs an incredibly similar offense and also hates big men... so...

[ALL HAIL]

I'm curious as to what will be said when D'Antoni is in fact fired?

How will it be spun by people who think he is a scapegoat.

Let me bottom line my position so that it is crystal effin' clear:

I have always professed that Mike D'Antoni should be fired this offseason so that we can sport the best team possible for next year. I am a proponent of resigning Gasol for one year, and a handful of these same guys so that we can be the best possible team for next year.

I am not a D'Antoni doomsdayer. He's a coach that should be fired. Not now, but at the culmination of the this season, the worst season in LA Laker franchise history.

[Doormatt]

I'm curious as to what will be said when D'Antoni is in fact fired?

How will it be spun by people who think he is a scapegoat.

Let me bottom line my position so that it is crystal effin' clear:

I have always professed that Mike D'Antoni should be fired this offseason so that we can sport the best team possible for next year. I am a proponent of resigning Gasol for one year, and a handful of these same guys so that we can be the best possible team for next year.

I am not a D'Antoni doomsdayer. He's a coach that should be fired. Not now, but at the culmination of the this season, the worst season in LA Laker franchise history.

ahahah what? have you been paying attention to whats been posted so far? i and others have said that we have no problem firing Dantoni, but not for one of these treadmill coaches that will take us nowhere. especially not for someone like byron **** scott, that has to be a joke. look at all the successful coaches in the nba right now - new guys with strong defensive schemes that know how to coach up young role players and how to play them. Mike D is actually really good at coaching up role players but instead of strong defensive schemes he has average offensive ones.

[ALL HAIL]

I'm curious as to what will be said when D'Antoni is in fact fired?

How will it be spun by people who think he is a scapegoat.

Let me bottom line my position so that it is crystal effin' clear:

I have always professed that Mike D'Antoni should be fired this offseason so that we can sport the best team possible for next year. I am a proponent of resigning Gasol for one year, and a handful of these same guys so that we can be the best possible team for next year.

I am not a D'Antoni doomsdayer. He's a coach that should be fired. Not now, but at the culmination of the this season, the worst season in LA Laker franchise history.

ahahah what? have you been paying attention to whats been posted so far? i and others have said that we have no problem firing Dantoni, but not for one of these treadmill coaches that will take us nowhere. especially not for someone like byron **** scott, that has to be a joke. look at all the successful coaches in the nba right now - new guys with strong defensive schemes that know how to coach up young role players and how to play them. Mike D is actually really good at coaching up role players but instead of strong defensive schemes he has average offensive ones.

This is one of my favorites:

This team is very well coached and all that will be forgotten because of the record.

I hope he gets a chance to coach a heathy team and pieces that fit his offensive style of basketball.

[Doormatt]

i like how you type words, yet contribute nothing to the discussion. it's impressive.

[ALL HAIL]

I'm curious as to what will be said when D'Antoni is in fact fired?

How will it be spun by people who think he is a scapegoat.

Let me bottom line my position so that it is crystal effin' clear:

I have always professed that Mike D'Antoni should be fired this offseason so that we can sport the best team possible for next year. I am a proponent of resigning Gasol for one year, and a handful of these same guys so that we can be the best possible team for next year.

I am not a D'Antoni doomsdayer. He's a coach that should be fired. Not now, but at the culmination of the this season, the worst season in LA Laker franchise history.

ahahah what? have you been paying attention to whats been posted so far? i and others have said that we have no problem firing Dantoni, but not for one of these treadmill coaches that will take us nowhere. especially not for someone like byron **** scott, that has to be a joke. look at all the successful coaches in the nba right now - new guys with strong defensive schemes that know how to coach up young role players and how to play them. Mike D is actually really good at coaching up role players but instead of strong defensive schemes he has average offensive ones.

And another goodie:

For all those that are hoping for MDA to get fired, you are probably going to be disappointed. Next year is likely to be another development year with guys on one year salaries. No reason to fire MDA and eat his contract. There is a team option in year 4, so that is the year he may not be back depending on what happens.

If you do not wish to contribute anything of value to the discussion, stop posting. You have been such a pain in the ass to deal with that you should have been warned more than once, Next infraction will lead to a suspension and more.

-Slava

[Doormatt]

its funny because that post actually proves my point exactly. theres no reason to fire Dantoni for just anybody, there is no reason to fire him and eat his contract unless we find the right replacement.

people want us to do what we did right after we fired mike brown, i remember everyone wanted him gone and wouldve taken anybody. now that the front office seems like they wont make that same mistake again, the same people are criticizing them.

[LApwnd]

I hope you realize that since first round picks are guaranteed contracts, the Lakers (as long time contenders and tax repeaters) were trying to stay as financially flexible as possible. Especially in these weaker drafts.

2nd round picks, with unguaranteed contracts, have plenty of value.

Mia heat are contenders in addition to being tax repeaters, they dont trade away their 1st picks when they have them, in fact they traded for some most recently the Norris Cole acquistion. There's a difference between financially responsible and just plain out wasting asset and your future, when you trade a pick to dump an expiring contract you're WASTING it. So say that they didn't want to have that 1st pick that year when they gave it away with Sash to the Nets, you're telling me we couldn't done that trade w/o the 1st invovled? On top that look at us now, so desperate for a 1st pick couldn't even manage to get a late 1st pick for player that was and still is productive in Pau.

[crazyeights]

I hope you realize that since first round picks are guaranteed contracts, the Lakers (as long time contenders and tax repeaters) were trying to stay as financially flexible as possible. Especially in these weaker drafts.

2nd round picks, with unguaranteed contracts, have plenty of value.

Mia heat are contenders in addition to being tax repeaters, they dont trade away their 1st picks when they have them, in fact they traded for some most recently the Norris Cole acquistion. There's a difference between financially responsible and just plain out wasting asset and your future, when you trade a pick to dump an expiring contract you're WASTING it. So say that they didn't want to have that 1st pick that year when they gave it away with Sash to the Nets, you're telling me we couldn't done that trade w/o the 1st invovled? On top that look at us now, so desperate for a 1st pick couldn't even manage to get a late 1st pick for player that was and still is productive in Pau.

Look you have to look at the context of the time, otherwise it's just revisionist history.

This was before the newest CBA. It was in the 2010-2011 season, we had just won back-to-back titles, PJ came back to go for a history 4 3-peats....Although as training camp nears, people start to realize that Andrew Bynum had put off knee surgery to the end of the summer so he could attend the 2010 World Cup in South Africa.

So, now with Pau and Theo Ratliff as the Lakers only centers, they are pretty thin, and AB's return date is in question. Then, in mid-November, the injury bug strikes, and Theo goes down, needing knee surgery. Now, I'm guessing Mitch is hard pressed to find a backup big to spell Pau....

Bear in mind that they couldn't simply go to the D-League and pick up an easy replacement because in 2010-2011 they had decided to not field a team. Also, with Phil Jackson's preference for not playing rookies, and being in the middle of a championship run, I'm guessing they wanted a vet.

You mean to tell me if you're an opposing GM, that you're willing to supply the Lakers that player? Or do you see this as your chance to slay the giant? It's like playing a game with someone, Settlers of Catan, with a person that always wins, and you know they're one or two moves away from winning again that the people you're playing with aren't gonna speak up and say, dude you're letting him win by giving him that trade....so maybe you up your asking price? Make it hurt a little?

So, the Lakers obviously need a trade. Well, who do they have to move? They have Sasha, who probably didn't hold a ton of value around the league, the rumors were he was clashing with PJ, so what's their leverage? I'm guessing Mitch didn't trade for a over-the-hill guy like Joe Smith as his first choice, more likely,nobody would help out the Lakers, two-time defending world champs, by giving them a solid big to patch up their front-line. So what happens?

They end up having to sweeten the pot with 2 first round picks.

If you weren't the GM, you mean you could go back and justify to Phil Jackson and Kobe Bryant why you didn't just go all-in? An 11 time champion? For 2 first round draft picks?

Sure it wasn't a brilliant move, but with rumors of Kobe's knee (one of the reasons PJ retired when he did--this was before his trips to Germany, when Kobe was privately thinking things like he might have to retire soon) and the Last Stand, as the season was dubbed, they went for it.

To say that the Lakers just gave away two first round draft picks isn't exactly true: they got 2 second rounders, Darius Morris and Robert Sacre, two players that actually made the team, and at a minimal cost. They were drafted after the new CBA, and being 2nd round, unguaranteed, and relatively cheap, this at very least allowed for flexibility to maintain what was their 2014 plan.

Which cannot be stressed enough: The Lakers had a 2014 plan to be completely ready to absorb MAX contracts/high impact players. When they traded for Nash, they obviously looked at him as a high-impact guy on a deal at 9M. From what I hear, Nash wasn't coming to the Lakers unless we gave him that 3rd year, so they made the decision to do it, going into their 2014 plan with Nash as a cornerstone.

To use the Sasha trade as an example of not caring about the future is just about as bad as an example as one can come up with. You're going back and applying today's needs to yesterday, without looking at the actual situation on the ground. Sure, a 27th pick in the 2011 draft would have been nice, but it wouldn't have helped us when a title that season, and it wouldn't have prevented us from ultimately being in this situation where we are now: rebuilding.

That's what being a real GM is, an actual GM has to make tough choices when you may have no perfect options, but I'd like to think if one option is a potential championship and the other is anything less, then going for the ship is the right option 99.9% of the time.

[LApwnd]

^^^All that said, we got Joe Smith bro, come on Joe FREAKIN Smith.

[Run-MKE 311]

Struggling for good ideas with respect to who this should be, the search should be interesting.

I would imagine this time around that Kobe would have some say in the matter, or maybe he will not. Beginning to get the feeling that Kobe may not finish his career in LA the way he would like to. Take that however you want to.

[fatherpanic]

Struggling for good ideas with respect to who this should be, the search should be interesting.

I would imagine this time around that Kobe would have some say in the matter, or maybe he will not. Beginning to get the feeling that Kobe may not finish his career in LA the way he would like to. Take that however you want to.

I don't think his career was meant to finish with ease... But he should make passing Jordan in scoring his priority.. Because ring #6 won't happen unless he is a backup guard somewhere else

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[crazyeights]

^^^All that said, we got Joe Smith bro, come on Joe FREAKIN Smith.

Hey man, it was a **** sandwich, but desperate times call for desperate measures. We also got Darius Morris and Robert Sacre