What if Lakers are an 11th seed at trade deadline next year?

[Doormatt]

Mark my words if lakers land parker exum or wiggins and keep hill, henry, marshall, young , wes, sign manny harris at minimum and greg monroe for bout 13 mil a year, and if really lucky gasol will resign for 6-8 mil and the lakers will finish 50-32 with 5 seed. Btw that if kobe stays injury free and scores 20

so youre saying we should sacrifice max cap space so we can be the 5th seed?

seems incredibly stupid.

[JSuri4]

Mark my words if lakers land parker exum or wiggins and keep hill, henry, marshall, young , wes, sign manny harris at minimum and greg monroe for bout 13 mil a year, and if really lucky gasol will resign for 6-8 mil and the lakers will finish 50-32 with 5 seed. Btw that if kobe stays injury free and scores 20

so youre saying we should sacrifice max cap space so we can be the 5th seed?

seems incredibly stupid.

if not monroe, lowry? Maybe pierce at vet min aswell. They can do really heavy damage in the playoffs. And im just tryna see the fastest turnaround oppesed to waiting till 2015

[Edrees]

If Kobe was healthy i wouldn't have wanted to take this year either. If he's healthy next year no way I want to take. But if kobe has a season ending injury early, I would think we have no choice but to tank again, without him being healthy I just don't see us being a good team. Gasol and one guy we add aren't going to lead us to the playoffs by themselves.

[aaron_gray]

Mark my words if lakers land parker exum or wiggins and keep hill, henry, marshall, young , wes, sign manny harris at minimum and greg monroe for bout 13 mil a year, and if really lucky gasol will resign for 6-8 mil and the lakers will finish 50-32 with 5 seed. Btw that if kobe stays injury free and scores 20

so youre saying we should sacrifice max cap space so we can be the 5th seed?

seems incredibly stupid.

if not monroe, lowry? Maybe pierce at vet min aswell. They can do really heavy damage in the playoffs. And im just tryna see the fastest turnaround oppesed to waiting till 2015

I don't think the fans will have a problem waiting until 2015. However, I agree with you that there needs to be some pieces in place. It's okay if we give up our pick this year for something like the 12th pick. Kevin Love won't come here though, if he feels like the situation won't be better than what Minny can provide him.

[myersia]

so youre saying we should sacrifice max cap space so we can be the 5th seed?

seems incredibly stupid.

if not monroe, lowry? Maybe pierce at vet min aswell. They can do really heavy damage in the playoffs. And im just tryna see the fastest turnaround oppesed to waiting till 2015

I don't think the fans will have a problem waiting until 2015. However, I agree with you that there needs to be some pieces in place. It's okay if we give up our pick this year for something like the 12th pick. Kevin Love won't come here though, if he feels like the situation won't be better than what Minny can provide him.

I disagree that Love won't consider us. Love could join us with superstars. I think next offseason will be similar to 2010. Superstars will be looking to team up together. If we can sign another superstar before Love next year he will be here in seconds. I like the Rondo trade if we get the 6th or 7th pick in the other thread for start for this off-season.

[JSuri4]

if not monroe, lowry? Maybe pierce at vet min aswell. They can do really heavy damage in the playoffs. And im just tryna see the fastest turnaround oppesed to waiting till 2015

I don't think the fans will have a problem waiting until 2015. However, I agree with you that there needs to be some pieces in place. It's okay if we give up our pick this year for something like the 12th pick. Kevin Love won't come here though, if he feels like the situation won't be better than what Minny can provide him.

I disagree that Love won't consider us. Love could join us with superstars. I think next offseason will be similar to 2010. Superstars will be looking to team up together. If we can sign another superstar before Love next year he will be here in seconds. I like the Rondo trade if we get the 6th or 7th pick in the other thread for start for this off-season.

ye that would be good but id rather aquire lowry in fa and trade lotto pick and nash for love. Becuz that gives the wolves a young prospect and cap relief when nash expires

[myersia]

I don't think the fans will have a problem waiting until 2015. However, I agree with you that there needs to be some pieces in place. It's okay if we give up our pick this year for something like the 12th pick. Kevin Love won't come here though, if he feels like the situation won't be better than what Minny can provide him.

I disagree that Love won't consider us. Love could join us with superstars. I think next offseason will be similar to 2010. Superstars will be looking to team up together. If we can sign another superstar before Love next year he will be here in seconds. I like the Rondo trade if we get the 6th or 7th pick in the other thread for start for this off-season.

ye that would be good but id rather aquire lowry in fa and trade lotto pick and nash for love. Becuz that gives the wolves a young prospect and cap relief when nash expires

Yeah but it makes no sense for us to trade a pick when we could sign Love next year while keeping the prospect we drafted. Only reason it makes sense for Rondo is because we would get the 17th pick in this years draft while getting Rondo and having the ability to sign Love next offseason. I'd be for signing Lowry but I wouldn't trade it for Love unless all good prospects are off the table by the time we get a pick. I do like Lowry but I like the idea of Rondo better with Kobe. But either one works for me. Now if the T-wolves gave us their pick (highly unlikely) i'd be down for the trade.

[lakersin4]

I disagree that Love won't consider us. Love could join us with superstars. I think next offseason will be similar to 2010. Superstars will be looking to team up together. If we can sign another superstar before Love next year he will be here in seconds. I like the Rondo trade if we get the 6th or 7th pick in the other thread for start for this off-season.

ye that would be good but id rather aquire lowry in fa and trade lotto pick and nash for love. Becuz that gives the wolves a young prospect and cap relief when nash expires

Yeah but it makes no sense for us to trade a pick when we could sign Love next year while keeping the prospect we drafted. Only reason it makes sense for Rondo is because we would get the 17th pick in this years draft while getting Rondo and having the ability to sign Love next offseason. I'd be for signing Lowry but I wouldn't trade it for Love unless all good prospects are off the table by the time we get a pick. I do like Lowry but I like the idea of Rondo better with Kobe. But either one works for me. Now if the T-wolves gave us their pick (highly unlikely) i'd be down for the trade.

We haven't had the greatest track record depending on things to go our way lately.. We were going to pull off the CP3 trade, then we were going to convince Dwight to re-sign.. You trade for Love now & get a commitment that he'll sign an extension because you want to get that core locked in 100%, not gamble on Love choosing another team next summer.

I don't know about Lowry being the right use for that 10-12M a season though, that money should be reserved to land the 3rd wheel for Kobe-Love after they've played together & we know what's missing.

[myersia]

ye that would be good but id rather aquire lowry in fa and trade lotto pick and nash for love. Becuz that gives the wolves a young prospect and cap relief when nash expires

Yeah but it makes no sense for us to trade a pick when we could sign Love next year while keeping the prospect we drafted. Only reason it makes sense for Rondo is because we would get the 17th pick in this years draft while getting Rondo and having the ability to sign Love next offseason. I'd be for signing Lowry but I wouldn't trade it for Love unless all good prospects are off the table by the time we get a pick. I do like Lowry but I like the idea of Rondo better with Kobe. But either one works for me. Now if the T-wolves gave us their pick (highly unlikely) i'd be down for the trade.

We haven't had the greatest track record depending on things to go our way lately.. We were going to pull off the CP3 trade, then we were going to convince Dwight to re-sign.. You trade for Love now & get a commitment that he'll sign an extension because you want to get that core locked in 100%, not gamble on Love choosing another team next summer.

I don't know about Lowry being the right use for that 10-12M a season though, that money should be reserved to land the 3rd wheel for Kobe-Love after they've played together & we know what's missing.

You can't compare Dwight to Kevin Love. Dwight is an egoistical diva. Kevin Love's word means a lot more than Dwights. If Kevin Love says he is staying...he is staying. He has never once said he was staying with the Timberwolves just that he hoped he could. Dwight is a clown. Bad comparison. CP3 was also not our fault. The league vetoed it. Another bad example.

[lakersin4]

Yeah but it makes no sense for us to trade a pick when we could sign Love next year while keeping the prospect we drafted. Only reason it makes sense for Rondo is because we would get the 17th pick in this years draft while getting Rondo and having the ability to sign Love next offseason. I'd be for signing Lowry but I wouldn't trade it for Love unless all good prospects are off the table by the time we get a pick. I do like Lowry but I like the idea of Rondo better with Kobe. But either one works for me. Now if the T-wolves gave us their pick (highly unlikely) i'd be down for the trade.

We haven't had the greatest track record depending on things to go our way lately.. We were going to pull off the CP3 trade, then we were going to convince Dwight to re-sign.. You trade for Love now & get a commitment that he'll sign an extension because you want to get that core locked in 100%, not gamble on Love choosing another team next summer.

I don't know about Lowry being the right use for that 10-12M a season though, that money should be reserved to land the 3rd wheel for Kobe-Love after they've played together & we know what's missing.

You can't compare Dwight to Kevin Love. Dwight is an egoistical diva. Kevin Love's word means a lot more than Dwights. If Kevin Love says he is staying...he is staying. He has never once said he was staying with the Timberwolves just that he hoped he could. Dwight is a clown. Bad comparison. CP3 was also not our fault. The league vetoed it. Another bad example.

I'm not comparing them as players or people, but as plans that went wrong. There's no guarantee we can sign Love in 2015 FA, Love himself went as far as to say the current T'Wolves are better than the Lakers so it wouldn't make sense for him to come here.

That probably means we need to land a superstar or multiple starters that fit our next coaches system & make a nice run next season for Love to consider us. That's if Min doesn't deal him at the deadline to avoid losing him for nothing. If you have a chance to trade for Love during the lottery & get him to commit to signing an extension, you do it. You don't throw away a season gambling on the off chance that Love will pick us.

[myersia]

We haven't had the greatest track record depending on things to go our way lately.. We were going to pull off the CP3 trade, then we were going to convince Dwight to re-sign.. You trade for Love now & get a commitment that he'll sign an extension because you want to get that core locked in 100%, not gamble on Love choosing another team next summer.

I don't know about Lowry being the right use for that 10-12M a season though, that money should be reserved to land the 3rd wheel for Kobe-Love after they've played together & we know what's missing.

You can't compare Dwight to Kevin Love. Dwight is an egoistical diva. Kevin Love's word means a lot more than Dwights. If Kevin Love says he is staying...he is staying. He has never once said he was staying with the Timberwolves just that he hoped he could. Dwight is a clown. Bad comparison. CP3 was also not our fault. The league vetoed it. Another bad example.

I'm not comparing them as players or people, but as plans that went wrong. There's no guarantee we can sign Love in 2015 FA, Love himself went as far as to say the current T'Wolves are better than the Lakers so it wouldn't make sense for him to come here.

That probably means we need to land a superstar or multiple starters that fit our next coaches system & make a nice run next season for Love to consider us. That's if Min doesn't deal him at the deadline to avoid losing him for nothing. If you have a chance to trade for Love during the lottery & get him to commit to signing an extension, you do it. You don't throw away a season gambling on the off chance that Love will pick us.

You do realize that Kevin Love isn't the only free agent available in 2015? Their is also a guy named LaMarcus Aldridge available as well. Kevin Love isn't the only savior for our franchise. If we get Love fine, if we don't oh well. In fact I'd rather have Aldridge to be honest. But we will have to wait and see.

[lakersin4]

You can't compare Dwight to Kevin Love. Dwight is an egoistical diva. Kevin Love's word means a lot more than Dwights. If Kevin Love says he is staying...he is staying. He has never once said he was staying with the Timberwolves just that he hoped he could. Dwight is a clown. Bad comparison. CP3 was also not our fault. The league vetoed it. Another bad example.

I'm not comparing them as players or people, but as plans that went wrong. There's no guarantee we can sign Love in 2015 FA, Love himself went as far as to say the current T'Wolves are better than the Lakers so it wouldn't make sense for him to come here.

That probably means we need to land a superstar or multiple starters that fit our next coaches system & make a nice run next season for Love to consider us. That's if Min doesn't deal him at the deadline to avoid losing him for nothing. If you have a chance to trade for Love during the lottery & get him to commit to signing an extension, you do it. You don't throw away a season gambling on the off chance that Love will pick us.

You do realize that Kevin Love isn't the only free agent available in 2015? Their is also a guy named LaMarcus Aldridge available as well. Kevin Love isn't the only savior for our franchise. If we get Love fine, if we don't oh well. In fact I'd rather have Aldridge to be honest. But we will have to wait and see.

I know there are multiple stars on the market in 2015.. But I also know they all will get max offers from multiple teams & might choose based on who gives them the best chance to win. Some very good bigs available.. Love, Aldridge, Marc Gasol.. Also Rondo & of course Lebron if he doesn't opt out this summer. If we keep Pau around I think it will be done in part to keep Kobe happy but also to help recruit Marc next summer. If that's the plan I'd be cool with a signing like Deng this summer.. Get that solid defensive wing to go with the defensive anchor.

[myersia]

I'm not comparing them as players or people, but as plans that went wrong. There's no guarantee we can sign Love in 2015 FA, Love himself went as far as to say the current T'Wolves are better than the Lakers so it wouldn't make sense for him to come here.

That probably means we need to land a superstar or multiple starters that fit our next coaches system & make a nice run next season for Love to consider us. That's if Min doesn't deal him at the deadline to avoid losing him for nothing. If you have a chance to trade for Love during the lottery & get him to commit to signing an extension, you do it. You don't throw away a season gambling on the off chance that Love will pick us.

You do realize that Kevin Love isn't the only free agent available in 2015? Their is also a guy named LaMarcus Aldridge available as well. Kevin Love isn't the only savior for our franchise. If we get Love fine, if we don't oh well. In fact I'd rather have Aldridge to be honest. But we will have to wait and see.

I know there are multiple stars on the market in 2015.. But I also know they all will get max offers from multiple teams & might choose based on who gives them the best chance to win. Some very good bigs available.. Love, Aldridge, Marc Gasol.. Also Rondo & of course Lebron if he doesn't opt out this summer. If we keep Pau around I think it will be done in part to keep Kobe happy but also to help recruit Marc next summer. If that's the plan I'd be cool with a signing like Deng this summer.. Get that solid defensive wing to go with the defensive anchor.

Interesting thought regarding keeping Pau to get his brother. i never thought of that. I agree that Deng would be a solid addition.

[dockingsched]

in regards to the keeping pau and going for deng idea, if you're going to be realistic about the type of pay cuts these players will take, there's probably no chance that the lakers have enough cap to offer marc gasol a competitive contract.

[lakersin4]

in regards to the keeping pau and going for deng idea, if you're going to be realistic about the type of pay cuts these players will take, there's probably no chance that the lakers have enough cap to offer marc gasol a competitive contract.

My idea is selling Pau on accepting a 2 year deal with a team option on the 2nd to give us a chance to recruit his brother. Deng probably won't get a deal over 4/48.. Flaming out on a lottery team that had a chance to make the playoffs wasn't good for his stock. We can afford to get Deng, keep Pau, & still have room for Marc as long as Pau doesn't demand the 2nd year be guaranteed.

[Mamba Venom]

it would mean we need to tank harder

To help the Magic after they get Wiggins?

[Doormatt]

in regards to the keeping pau and going for deng idea, if you're going to be realistic about the type of pay cuts these players will take, there's probably no chance that the lakers have enough cap to offer marc gasol a competitive contract.

My idea is selling Pau on accepting a 2 year deal with a team option on the 2nd to give us a chance to recruit his brother. Deng probably won't get a deal over 4/48.. Flaming out on a lottery team that had a chance to make the playoffs wasn't good for his stock. We can afford to get Deng, keep Pau, & still have room for Marc as long as Pau doesn't demand the 2nd year be guaranteed.

Why the hell would pau do that? He's looking for a stable contract on a good team, not 1 year deals for mediocrity.

And how would the lakers look doing that? "yeah pau we know you were instrumental to this teams success but were going to give you 1 year guaranteed then dump you like a bad ex for your little brother"

I thought the point of giving Kobe that contract was to show that the lakers take care of their players (since there is no other justification). Now you want the lakers to do the exact opposite with pau?

[lakersin4]

in regards to the keeping pau and going for deng idea, if you're going to be realistic about the type of pay cuts these players will take, there's probably no chance that the lakers have enough cap to offer marc gasol a competitive contract.

My idea is selling Pau on accepting a 2 year deal with a team option on the 2nd to give us a chance to recruit his brother. Deng probably won't get a deal over 4/48.. Flaming out on a lottery team that had a chance to make the playoffs wasn't good for his stock. We can afford to get Deng, keep Pau, & still have room for Marc as long as Pau doesn't demand the 2nd year be guaranteed.

Why the hell would pau do that? He's looking for a stable contract on a good team, not 1 year deals for mediocrity.

And how would the lakers look doing that? "yeah pau we know you were instrumental to this teams success but were going to give you 1 year guaranteed then dump you like a bad ex for your little brother"

I thought the point of giving Kobe that contract was to show that the lakers take care of their players (since there is no other justification). Now you want the lakers to do the exact opposite with pau?

We wouldn't have to dump him when we get Marc.. We could use our cap space on Marc & then give Pau the MLE for as many seasons as we can.

[Dr Aki]

it would mean we need to tank harder

To help the Magic after they get Wiggins?

1. the magic don't own the lakers 2015 1st rounder (the suns do), the magic own our 2017 1st
2. it's top 5 protected