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Healing Henry hungry to play. But where?

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Re: Healing Henry hungry to play. But where? 

Post#21 » by Fresh360Waves » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:18 pm

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Fresh360Waves wrote:Sign him to a vet minimum contract and make him prove he can stay healthy for a full season. It is not a guarantee considering the fact he has had durability problems throughout his career so far, but it is a low risk-high reward type of deal. We all know what X can bring to the table.



i dont think the lakers have or want the time for him to prove he can stay healthy. they need to start rebuilding asap. if the dude cant play, let him walk


X would only serve as depth, not necessarily a major asset to the team. Bazemore will likely stay and maybe even Nick so it's not like X would need to have a major role off the bench.
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Re: Healing Henry hungry to play. But where? 

Post#22 » by crazyeights » Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:50 pm

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TruSkool wrote:i dont want these crappy d leaguers X, Wes, Sacre, Bazemore, Marshon on the lakers. Get rid of these sorry a55 players and sign some veterans trying to win rings.


You actually want a veteran who is legitimately trying to win a ring to sign with us? I don't. That means they'd be a stupid person. We don't need stupid vets. We need quality, smart players at any age.

A vet would have to be delusional to believe we're winning any time soon.


You gota start somewhere to buid a team. Xavier wont do it. they need to bring in quality vets. I'll throw some free agent names out there THAT CAN ACTUALLY HELP LA and can be had for relatively cheap.

marcin gortat
luol deng
trevor ariza
channing frye
spencer hawes
vince carter
darren collison
kris humphries
andre blatche
boris diaw
chris kaman
andrei kirilenko
birdman
josh mcroberts
steve blake
mike miller
thabo sefolosha
shawn marion
danny granger
kenyon martin
kirk hinrich
ray allen
udonis haslem


these are all veterans who can tremendously help a team and play alongside kobe, and had for relatively cheap as compared to these scrubs like X, Wes, Bazemore and the likes. Better yet, all of them are playoff tested.

there are so many quality free agents out there that can be built around kobe and gasol for another title run. players like diaw, ariza, hawes, birdman, marion, hinrich especially.


You realize 7/8ths of those players are wayy top expensive, right? And the other eighth are just as injured, or washed up? What an awful list to compare to a vet minimum player....

If X isn't healthy, then obviously we let him walk. If the doctors say he'll be 100%, then he's worth the minimum to round off the bench. It's that simple.

Ariza? lol dude's gonna command a huge payday.
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Re: Healing Henry hungry to play. But where? 

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Re: Healing Henry hungry to play. But where? 

Post#24 » by TyCobb » Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:16 am

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You won't like her because she's not a thickums, but she is gorgeous in person;

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Why is my google search getting a blonde in her 40s?


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Re: Healing Henry hungry to play. But where? 

Post#25 » by aaron_gray » Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:39 am

dem hoes aint loyal x, watch yourself
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Re: Healing Henry hungry to play. But where? 

Post#26 » by TruSkool » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:41 am

crazyeights wrote:
TruSkool wrote:
crazyeights wrote:
You actually want a veteran who is legitimately trying to win a ring to sign with us? I don't. That means they'd be a stupid person. We don't need stupid vets. We need quality, smart players at any age.

A vet would have to be delusional to believe we're winning any time soon.


You gota start somewhere to buid a team. Xavier wont do it. they need to bring in quality vets. I'll throw some free agent names out there THAT CAN ACTUALLY HELP LA and can be had for relatively cheap.

marcin gortat
luol deng
trevor ariza
channing frye
spencer hawes
vince carter
darren collison
kris humphries
andre blatche
boris diaw
chris kaman
andrei kirilenko
birdman
josh mcroberts
steve blake
mike miller
thabo sefolosha
shawn marion
danny granger
kenyon martin
kirk hinrich
ray allen
udonis haslem


these are all veterans who can tremendously help a team and play alongside kobe, and had for relatively cheap as compared to these scrubs like X, Wes, Bazemore and the likes. Better yet, all of them are playoff tested.

there are so many quality free agents out there that can be built around kobe and gasol for another title run. players like diaw, ariza, hawes, birdman, marion, hinrich especially.


You realize 7/8ths of those players are wayy top expensive, right? And the other eighth are just as injured, or washed up? What an awful list to compare to a vet minimum player....

If X isn't healthy, then obviously we let him walk. If the doctors say he'll be 100%, then he's worth the minimum to round off the bench. It's that simple.

Ariza? lol dude's gonna command a huge payday.


its a list of actual available free agents. not a list of the best cheap players. you're telling me you would take X over thabo sefolosha or mike miller and try to win rings? Look at the past teams that have won. all of those teams were full of veterans. mavs, heat, and spurs....as a matter of fact, the lakers had a "bench mob" of ariza, farmar, sasha, and odom. they were deep. Baze/x/wes and all these weak players wont get you rings.
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Re: Healing Henry hungry to play. But where? 

Post#27 » by MAMBAEMD » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:41 am

TyCobb wrote:
aaron_gray wrote:
TyCobb wrote:
You won't like her because she's not a thickums, but she is gorgeous in person;

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Why is my google search getting a blonde in her 40s?


His Memphis sidepiece?

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Post#28 » by crazyeights » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:50 am

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its a list of actual available free agents. not a list of the best cheap players. you're telling me you would take X over thabo sefolosha or mike miller and try to win rings? Look at the past teams that have won. all of those teams were full of veterans. mavs, heat, and spurs....as a matter of fact, the lakers had a "bench mob" of ariza, farmar, sasha, and odom. they were deep. Baze/x/wes and all these weak players wont get you rings.



You mean the Thabo who laid egg after egg in the playoffs? Or Mike Miller who has been just as injured in the recent past as X? You realize even to attract a guy like Miller, we'd have to have, you know, a team, a coach, a Kobe that's shown he can still play...we're frankly not in a position to attract that kind of player yet.

Those guys chase rings.

And actually, before we had that crazy rash of injuries, we had one of the highest scoring benches in the league. They were our biggest asset this season. Our problem wasn't our bench. It was we had no top tier players for most of the season, until Gasol became slightly healthy. Even then, he's only a 3rd best player on a contender--at best--and he was our focal point.
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Re: Healing Henry hungry to play. But where? 

Post#29 » by Asianiac_24 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:07 pm

I'll take back X/Young/Farmar/Hill/Wes Johnson. Draft Randle, resign Gasol to a reasonable price, and absorb a contract like Lin for a pick.

Lin/Farmar/Nash
Bryant/X
Young/Wes Johnson
Randle/Hill
Gasol/Hill

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Re: Healing Henry hungry to play. But where? 

Post#30 » by DEEP3CL » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:55 pm

marcin gortat -- Decent but out our price range

luol deng -- Out our price range

trevor ariza -- Out our price range

channing frye -- Game has been diminishing for last 2 yrs

spencer hawes -- Out price range

vince carter -- Nearing washed up stage, plus we need youth

darren collison -- Farmar is just as good

kris humphries -- Nothing special here to look at

andre blatche -- Out our price range

boris diaw -- Was damn near out league, again we need youth

chris kaman -- Willing to bring back

andrei kirilenko -- Showed nothing....nearing washed up stage

birdman -- Nope

josh mcroberts -- Been there done that

steve blake -- I'm all about youth movement now, no thanks

mike miller-- Ehh....Meeks can provide what he does and a little more

thabo sefolosha -- Coach didn't even trust playing him...will pass

shawn marion -- Washed up....no thanks

danny granger -- Looking to be paid, but would take a chance on fair deal

kenyon martin -- Capital W a s h e d up

kirk hinrich -- No more old guards....did we not learn the past 2 years what that's like ?

ray allen -- Better off in Miami, again I'm on the youth train now

udonis haslem -- J. Hill provides what he did.....probably better than UD at this stage.
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Re: Healing Henry hungry to play. But where? 

Post#31 » by Slava » Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:27 pm

He's the one free agent that I want us to retain and develop. He has shown a good shooting touch, can finish explosively and has the ability to draw fouls. Given the dearth of the 2-guard in the league right now, I'd love to keep him and see if he develops into something good.
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Post#32 » by TruSkool » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:52 am

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TruSkool wrote:
its a list of actual available free agents. not a list of the best cheap players. you're telling me you would take X over thabo sefolosha or mike miller and try to win rings? Look at the past teams that have won. all of those teams were full of veterans. mavs, heat, and spurs....as a matter of fact, the lakers had a "bench mob" of ariza, farmar, sasha, and odom. they were deep. Baze/x/wes and all these weak players wont get you rings.



You mean the Thabo who laid egg after egg in the playoffs? Or Mike Miller who has been just as injured in the recent past as X? You realize even to attract a guy like Miller, we'd have to have, you know, a team, a coach, a Kobe that's shown he can still play...we're frankly not in a position to attract that kind of player yet.

Those guys chase rings.

And actually, before we had that crazy rash of injuries, we had one of the highest scoring benches in the league. They were our biggest asset this season. Our problem wasn't our bench. It was we had no top tier players for most of the season, until Gasol became slightly healthy. Even then, he's only a 3rd best player on a contender--at best--and he was our focal point.



I agree with u on that. But i think kobe still has enough pull in him to attract good free agents, as well as resign pau on a cheaper deal
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Post#33 » by crazyeights » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:04 am

We shall see. I hope that's right. My gut just tells me Kobe's gonna need to put it on the floor for another year before people can trust it again.
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Post#34 » by Sofa King » Tue Jun 24, 2014 3:10 am

If your an injured player, go to Phoenix. They have miracle Jesus juice over there that can cure you.
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Post#35 » by TruSkool » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:08 pm

crazyeights wrote:We shall see. I hope that's right. My gut just tells me Kobe's gonna need to put it on the floor for another year before people can trust it again.


yea i feel u but at the same time, he only has 2 years left to play before he retires. So any other player who considers coming to LA in 2015/16 season may solely base his decision on how well the lakers play in 14....so that said, A) Lakers sign some significant role players and make it to the playoffs or B) ride out kobe's stupid contract and wait til he retires.
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Re: Healing Henry hungry to play. But where? 

Post#36 » by zuju » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:01 am

I love what X, bazemore, wes, swaggy and famar brought to the lakers last year.
X was even a point guard for us in an extended period and have done a good job while we were lacking of pg. He and bazemore are multi positional players (1-3) and could make some play on their own.

swaggy was an energetic guy scoring for us all the time by creating his own shots and was willing to dedicate himself for the team to win all the time although that caused us a few more wins and hurt the tank.

wes was extremely atheletic. He played the PF position for us last year. He had a significant improvement last year and I expect him to be our D and 3 guy at the SF position(back up)

Famar is our best pg last year despite of his injury. He loves the lakers, worked well with kobe in the past and have became matured after leaving the lakers for turkey. He should be our back up pg or may be even our starting pg if we could put nash as our back up pg "upgrading" our 2nd unit.

For meeks, I wouldn't consider resigning him if I am the lakers GM lol (may be you disagree with me). He is hardworking and have tremendously improved. However, he could not co-exist with kobe on court. His defense was not up to standard. And we are packed with players on the position

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