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tttttada wrote:Seriously overrated.
His skills are no where near a 17-year old Kobe. Kobe would have killed this kid 1-on-1 in their teens. He's got good shooting mechanics, but his handles are suspect, has no post-up game, and can not create his own shots on the NBA level.
Yeah? What's your point? Kobe is probably the best one-on-one player ever, not that we can prove that or that it even matters. And nobody, me included, ever said Zach was or would ever be as good as Kobe. So take a deep breath and read the words instead of leaping to your own conclusions and fighting arguments that don't even exist.
-Funny that you say he has good shooting mechanics, because scouts and observers are divided about that.
-Handles suspect? Nope. That guy has excellent handle for his size, and has been playing point guard all his life aside from his one year at UCLA. Guy was playing point for the Wolves this summer, and impressed both the coaching staff and his teammates.
-No post-up game - who cares?
-Can't create his own shot? That's one thing that EVERYBODY agrees Zach can do, in almost every scouting report.
One thing he does have in common with Kobe is that creating his own shot comes extremely naturally for him. It's because he's a threat from anywhere on the court, and he has a variety of shots, as I've detailed in earlier posts. Or you can watch him play.
A better dunker than Vince Carter? Ummm... no. VC is the GOAT when it comes to dunks. You need finesse and power on top of athletism to be on the same level as Vince.
/the end
And most importantly, his drive? That is what Kobe had/has over anyone else in the league. At least Julius Randle is known to hussle and work his ass off in practice. At the very least, you need to have that kind of reputation to "replace" the great Kobe Bryant.
You have to prove drive. But Zach is saying and doing all the right things so far.
"What drives me, I want to be the best. I love the competition, I love the challenge, I love the grind - putting in work in the gym and then getting success afterwards. It's exciting, it's my life so I automatically love it."
"I love Kobe's mentality, his killer instinct - he puts a lot of work into the game."
"I want to go out there and have a strong start. I know everyone does. We're going to go out there and grind, get in the gym, just work our butt off for you guys."
It's funny, for all his effortless athleticism, all he talks about it working hard. And extremely telling is how incisive he is in talking about Kobe, he knows exactly what Kobe is about: "killer instinct" and "work."
That being said, this is why I think it's important to have Kobe mentor him, to infect this kid with his insane obsessive desire for greatness. I keep repeating this, but plenty of guys have given Kobe credit for helping them with their game, from Kevin Durant and Anthony Davis to our own young guys who really grew under his wing: Butler, Ariza, and Meeks, who recently had some strong endorsements of Kobe as a mentor. NONE OF THOSE GUYS have Zach's potential, so that's why I see getting Zach to train and play under Kobe's shadow as almost the most ironclad guarantee that Zach will be a dynamic star guard in this league.
I see this kid as another Jason Richardson type player.
Jason Richardson has point guard skills? Must have missed it.
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And of course, this guy wasn't shy about his love for the Lakers:
From espn, after his workout with the Lakers:
“I’m definitely keeping these (practice) jerseys right here. I might wear the shorts a lot, show everybody. I’ve always been a Laker fan growing up, ever since I was younger, I’ve lived and died with them."
Word.
From espn, after his workout with the Lakers:
“I’m definitely keeping these (practice) jerseys right here. I might wear the shorts a lot, show everybody. I’ve always been a Laker fan growing up, ever since I was younger, I’ve lived and died with them."
Word.
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Honestly I eye-rolled when I first started reading this thread. But yeah, he has a high upside and is very raw, so different people are going to project different things on him. I'm not going to disagree with the statement that he could be a great player.
I'm not sure how great an athlete he is though. Westbrook is an amazing combination of speed and strength that allows him to get into the lane at will, it's like he's a bull and gazelle at the same time. Whereas Zach RIGHT NOW is pretty spindly and seems to avoid contact when finishing at the rim- all lightning and no thunder. Also, I'm not sure I see the great body control that the real elite NBA players/athletes (including Kobe) have (but there are many aspects to athleticism.)
If he puts on a significant amount of muscle and learns to finish when the lane gets dirty (the 2 go hand-in-hand), I can see how he could become a very impressive player. If he does that then he doesn't necessarily have to be a PG to be a star in the NBA, nor does he have to be a lights out 3PG shooter to excel at the 2 spot. At the same time, he at least shows promise in those 2 skills. So yeah, I think there is at least a path for him to star in the league, provided his team puts him on a good developmental plan.
If he does end up taking off in the NBA, his development path will be longer than Kobe's (which is fine.) 4 or 5 years I think, along the lines of Paul George. If the Lakers could have acquired another pick in the draft, he would have been potentially a great project to go along with the more NBA ready Randle.
I'm not sure how great an athlete he is though. Westbrook is an amazing combination of speed and strength that allows him to get into the lane at will, it's like he's a bull and gazelle at the same time. Whereas Zach RIGHT NOW is pretty spindly and seems to avoid contact when finishing at the rim- all lightning and no thunder. Also, I'm not sure I see the great body control that the real elite NBA players/athletes (including Kobe) have (but there are many aspects to athleticism.)
If he puts on a significant amount of muscle and learns to finish when the lane gets dirty (the 2 go hand-in-hand), I can see how he could become a very impressive player. If he does that then he doesn't necessarily have to be a PG to be a star in the NBA, nor does he have to be a lights out 3PG shooter to excel at the 2 spot. At the same time, he at least shows promise in those 2 skills. So yeah, I think there is at least a path for him to star in the league, provided his team puts him on a good developmental plan.
If he does end up taking off in the NBA, his development path will be longer than Kobe's (which is fine.) 4 or 5 years I think, along the lines of Paul George. If the Lakers could have acquired another pick in the draft, he would have been potentially a great project to go along with the more NBA ready Randle.
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milesfides wrote:Yeah? What's your point? Kobe is probably the best one-on-one player ever, not that we can prove that or that it even matters. And nobody, me included, ever said Zach was or would ever be as good as Kobe. So take a deep breath and read the words instead of leaping to your own conclusions and fighting arguments that don't even exist.
Oh yes, these argument exist.
In your OP you brought out the argument that "LaVine has the most well-rounded offensive game, a lot like a young Kobe"
And I disagree. His offensive game is mostly predicated around spot-up shooting and occasional driving. A far cry from Kobe at 17. Perhaps you shouldn't have included the word "Replacement" in the title if you didn't think he would be as good as Kobe. A little misleading, no?
-Funny that you say he has good shooting mechanics, because scouts and observers are divided about that.
-Handles suspect? Nope. That guy has excellent handle for his size, and has been playing point guard all his life aside from his one year at UCLA. Guy was playing point for the Wolves this summer, and impressed both the coaching staff and his teammates.
-No post-up game - who cares?
-Can't create his own shot? That's one thing that EVERYBODY agrees Zach can do, in almost every scouting report.
One thing he does have in common with Kobe is that creating his own shot comes extremely naturally for him. It's because he's a threat from anywhere on the court, and he has a variety of shots, as I've detailed in earlier posts. Or you can watch him play.
Judging from clips I've seen, I think he's got good shooting mechanics along with a quick release. So that's good.
As for other points perhaps you should watch from the 6:45 mark of this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myt7Hg8s4uw
His half-court game, handles, and shot-creation is suspect. He seems to lack imagination too. And you say "who cares" about his lack of post-game? If he possessed a decent post-game and footwork, he could have bailed himself out of those failed drive attempts. Post-game and footwork is important for any position in basketball. If you don't agree your basketball insight is very shallow.
A better dunker than Vince Carter? Ummm... no. VC is the GOAT when it comes to dunks. You need finesse and power on top of athletism to be on the same level as Vince.
/the end
Search "windmill dunk freethrow" and there are many other clips of people that can do that. He is a great leaper, but lacks the body control, finesse, and power of a Vince Carter. Look at how he lands after his dunks....not in balance and not poised.
Dunking for show is like a half-pipe snowboard trick. I look at the whole procedure, from take-off to landing. Not just height and tricks.
But this is a matter of preference and is subjective so I'll leave it at that.
You have to prove drive. But Zach is saying and doing all the right things so far.
I see your point, but most of these kids say all the right things. They are trained for interviews.
I think you have to have reputation of being a gymrat to be great. You have to raise eyebrows and have coaches, colleagues, and scouts say that you have a "great drive and motor" Randle is a proven gymrat with a great motor coming into the league. Haven't read any outside source of LaVine in that regard. That worries me, especially as a raw prospect.
Jason Richardson has point guard skills? Must have missed it.
I believe he is coming into the league as a SG? So PG skills are nice to have but SG skills are far more important when evaluating this prospect, no?
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Oh yes, these argument exist.
In your OP you brought out the argument that "LaVine has the most well-rounded offensive game, a lot like a young Kobe"
And I disagree. His offensive game is mostly predicated around spot-up shooting and occasional driving. A far cry from Kobe at 17. Perhaps you shouldn't have included the word "Replacement" in the title if you didn't think he would be as good as Kobe. A little misleading, no?
Of course not. Replacement doesn't mean "as good as." Eventually a 2-guard has to replace Kobe - that day is coming very soon. Nick Young? Do you think Nick Young is capable of replacing Kobe as a championship caliber wing player? That's what I meant - somebody worthy to carry that mantle, who has superstar potential. Your hang up on Zach being as good as Kobe is your own - nowhere did I say that.
And your perception of his offensive game is just wrong. There's a reason why he was drafted at 13 - his year at UCLA was not indicative of his capability RIGHT NOW as a lead guard. Now, you can disagree, you can say Zach's game at UCLA is exactly who he is as a player. That's your right, to be entitled to that opinion, just realize that the overwhelming response to his performance in the summer league is that he is much better, much more dynamic, much more of a capable lead guard than what he was limited to in UCLA. That was in my original post, and I don't know if you dismissed it or disagreed with it, but just know all the scouting reports and pundits on Zach's game post-draft: kid got to the line, got his teammates involved, and could create shots as well as anybody in his draft class.
Judging from clips I've seen, I think he's got good shooting mechanics along with a quick release. So that's good.
As for other points perhaps you should watch from the 6:45 mark of this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myt7Hg8s4uw
His half-court game, handles, and shot-creation is suspect. He seems to lack imagination too. And you say "who cares" about his lack of post-game? If he possessed a decent post-game and footwork, he could have bailed himself out of those failed drive attempts. Post-game and footwork is important for any position in basketball. If you don't agree your basketball insight is very shallow.
Look, your argument isn't new. I have said this over and over in this thread, if you're referring to Zach as he was used in his one year at UCLA, I would absolutely agree with you. He was not on my radar at all during the draft. But he left UCLA because he felt he was being held back and being played out of position. And everything that he did since his year at UCLA ended has shown that his game is much more dynamic and well-rounded that what he showed at UCLA. You're late to the game - read through this thread. If your arguments are based on the draft express video of his play at UCLA, then you are hanging onto yesterday's news.
Search "windmill dunk freethrow" and there are many other clips of people that can do that. He is a great leaper, but lacks the body control, finesse, and power of a Vince Carter. Look at how he lands after his dunks....not in balance and not poised.
Dunking for show is like a half-pipe snowboard trick. I look at the whole procedure, from take-off to landing. Not just height and tricks.
But this is a matter of preference and is subjective so I'll leave it at that.
Yeah, of course, but I would say you're 100% wrong because no NBA player has done a free throw windmill dunk in the NBA, especially when they're 19. Look, you can say "preference" and "subjective" but Zach's already been crowned the dunk contest champion, and Wiggins, who was drafted number 1 in no small part to his athleticism, acknowledged Zach's superiority - and Zach was again already voted the most athletic by his peers. So what are you arguing against? Again, you can have your opinion, you're entitled to that, just know that it's contrary to the overwhelming consensus of more authoritative and knowledgeable people. But even if you were right, which we can't prove because Vince Carter is old, the fact remains that Zach has elite athleticism - not complete in every sense, because he acknowledges he needs to get stronger, but as a 19-year-old kid who has effortless bounce and great body control, it's a no-brainer that he's going to be one of the very best in athletic ability.
I see your point, but most of these kids say all the right things. They are trained for interviews.
I think you have to have reputation of being a gymrat to be great. You have to raise eyebrows and have coaches, colleagues, and scouts say that you have a "great drive and motor" Randle is a proven gymrat with a great motor coming into the league. Haven't read any outside source of LaVine in that regard. That worries me, especially as a raw prospect.
Why am I arguing against this over and over? Randle is a proven gym rat with a great motor? He hasn't proven anything. If anything, he's shown in the summer league that he was rusty and didn't rebound. And again, to pre-empt "this is only summer league!" reactions, well, if he were consistent and had a terrific motor and was an elite rebounder, he sure as hell didn't show it in his four games. Again, I'm not saying he won't, but thinking that Randle has a "great drive and motor" that would automatically translate into the NBA? That's a hell of an assumption, especially because of his noted physical limitations. He has a lot to prove.
And yet, even if he does prove it, and becomes a Paul Millsap-type players - hold on? Why are you so excited? Why is anybody excited? NBA-ready - great! For what? For a role player? A back-up big man? He's not going to protect the basket as a big man, and he's also not a capable perimeter shooter - what is his role? What's his upside?
And this is a terrible example, but the reality still stands: Tracy McGrady was in general a lazy player (not that Zach is) but he was still one of the best to do it, and you take Tmac over Paul Millsap or even Zach Randolph every time.
I believe he is coming into the league as a SG? So PG skills are nice to have but SG skills are far more important when evaluating this prospect, no?
No. He is coming into the league as a combo guard - and the T-wolves have played him as lead guard for many possessions in the summer league - and impressed both his coach and his teammates, as I've quoted in earlier posts.
The reason why this isn't a small detail is that the superstar shooting guards have excellent playmaking skills. Kobe. Tracy McGrady. Ginobili. Dwayne Wade.
Again, I issue that challenge: how many guys 6'6" with Zach's kind of athleticism, ability to shoot, make plays, and attack the basket - how many of these types of players have existed in this league? And how many of them have failed?
The reason why the Gerald Green and Jason Richardson comparisons should immediately be aborted is that neither is remotely close to being able to make plays and handle the ball. Zach was a 6'2" point guard in 2013. He grew 2.5 inches and is 6'6" in shoes, same as Kobe. The reason why this is significant is because this is a formula for a dynamic game changing superstar wing player. If Lebron didn't have playmaking skills, his game would be much more limited. It's his ability to make plays, beyond the reasonable expectations of his position, that contributes to his being a transcendent player. No, Lebron can't play a true point. Neither can Kobe, or Ginobili, or Wade. But the fact that they have those skills - that gives them a huge step up in being a game-changing threat. In other words, superstar potential. Kyle Korver is probably the best shooting wing in the NBA. He's a pure shooter. But the fact that he lacks other parts of the game makes him a role player. Superstars are those players who can do a lot of things that determine the outcome of a game. And that's what I see in Zach.
Yes, that year in UCLA killed his draft position (although some thought his year was so bad he'd barely be a first round pick). You can talk about that year until you're blue in the face. But the consensus around the league, and please, don't take my word for it, watch the FULL games and read all the articles on Zach since he was drafted. This kid was flying way below the radar because of CIRCUMSTANCE.
Like I said, he has all the tools and skill set to be a superstar in this league. Sure you can disagree. Just don't use that UCLA year against him, because it's already been proven to have been misleading. Then extrapolate that skill set, the combination of all his attributes, put him in an NBA training program under Kobe's wing, and I feel great about Zach being Kobe's replacement as a dynamic elite shooting guard on a championship caliber team.
As good as him, no. Worthy of being his successor? Yes.
At least he has that chance, if we put him in the right position. Julius Randle? Will be solid, but how will you win a championship with him as a franchise player? You can't.
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At least he has that chance, if we put him in the right position. Julius Randle? Will be solid, but how will you win a championship with him as a franchise player? You can't.
why Julius Randle can't but LaVine can ? Randle is way more polished player than LaVine and will be better in each year if we put him in the right position.
Sorry, but if you insist Randle is no more than the next Millsap, then LaVine could be the next Terrence Williams too. Athletic, long, can play point, and atleast shoot three at decent rate.
Randle CAN shoot, he just dont need it in college, and protecting the rim is not only about shotblocking.
shawn_hemp wrote: a guy who is far worse than Robert Covington in Brandon Ingram, and a guy who is no better than TJ McConnell or Tony Wroten in D'Angelo Russell.
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The level of hyperbole in this thread kind of blows my mind. Zach is a fine young prospect, but my goodness, Miles is only setting himself up for disappointment it seems.
And no, Zach is not a better dunker than Vince, nor will he ever be. No, this is not a matter of subjectivity. Zach doesn't dunk on people, and he never has. He's built like a baby dear, and he plays to avoid contact. All of the great dunkers, from Dr. J to David Thompson to Jordan and 'Nique and Vince, made their bones by dunking on the heads of the leagues best big men. I don't think I've ever seen Zach even try to dunk outside of empty gyms and fastbreaks.
But really, the dunking thing is just the tip of the iceberg that is this thread.
And no, Zach is not a better dunker than Vince, nor will he ever be. No, this is not a matter of subjectivity. Zach doesn't dunk on people, and he never has. He's built like a baby dear, and he plays to avoid contact. All of the great dunkers, from Dr. J to David Thompson to Jordan and 'Nique and Vince, made their bones by dunking on the heads of the leagues best big men. I don't think I've ever seen Zach even try to dunk outside of empty gyms and fastbreaks.
But really, the dunking thing is just the tip of the iceberg that is this thread.
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Fun thread. Enjoying the discussion. Miles, love your enthusiasm.
I think Minny now has their future guy at PG-SG-SF-C. They do need a PF but hopefully the 2015 draft solves that. Thad & Bennett will be ok for now.
Going into this draft, I felt Randle was one of the most NBA ready guys available.
Made perfect sense for the Lakers to grab him.
I think Minny now has their future guy at PG-SG-SF-C. They do need a PF but hopefully the 2015 draft solves that. Thad & Bennett will be ok for now.
Going into this draft, I felt Randle was one of the most NBA ready guys available.
Made perfect sense for the Lakers to grab him.
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NBA Ready for what...?
What's his NBA role? We know he won't be a basket protecting big man, nor a back-to-the-basket go-to guy, nor a floor spreading PF.
NBA Ready, for what, especially on this team, with at least two ball-dominant guards in each rotation (Lin/Kobe, Nash/Young) who need clearly defined role players? And the logistical built-in limitation with the addition of Carlos Boozer, who in all likelihood will start or at least get a ton of minutes?
Let's look at big picture. Lakers won't be competitive for championships unless they have 3 elite players on their team with strong role players. Randle's upside is the latter than the former. Nothing wrong with that, but this whole thread is predicated on the premise that Zach has many of the attributes that mark a superstar.
Again, an elite athlete with 2-guard size and point guard skills? I'm going all in.
I like Randle, I just look at all his attributes and don't think he can be a top player in this league. Nothing wrong with that, even if say he were the most NBA-ready of any player in the draft.
And Minny's biggest hole is at PF for sure, even with Thad, who by all measures is a small forward, plays like a small forward, statistically is a SF, and gets killed defensively at PF (82games.com has him giving up all-star production to the opponent at the PF). Bennett? I mean, this guy was essentially the worst player in the NBA last year.
SG? Deepest position by far. Kevin Martin, Corey Brewer, Alexey Shved...not to mention Chase Budinger coming back and the additions of Wiggins and Shabbaz making the wings pretty crowded for the Wolves.
It's a sensible trade for both teams. Is LaVine a bit of a reach?
Maybe, but I think it's worth it because the reality is that the Lakers' options for getting superstar talent are limited.
Lakers are in a position where they just have to take some risks, or be stuck in mediocrity.
Think things are rough now? When Kobe retires, then what?
The issue goes beyond money or CBA (the Knicks have sucked forever)
The Lakers, through luck and good management, have often gotten the best players at the right time - when they were attainable.
Kobe has gotten into this space where he is a self-styled teacher and mentor. Where he's come to terms with his mortality and the end. He's not going to go gentle into the night, no.
But it would be a tremendous waste not to use Kobe's active teaching and setting example to infuse a successor with the optimized nurturing that maximizes nature.
It's a fact that Kobe has helped and made certain players better (almost all of them guards and wing players, btw).
Think Zach has some holes in his game? Well Kobe will fill those gaps. That's my point. Think Zach isn't good enough? Kobe will elevate him. Because Zach has all the right tools. They're there.
Can't be risk adverse when you're the small stack. Think the game through. Look at where the league is going. What players are doing. Now imagine where the Lakers are going, three, four moves ahead.
Lakers aren't going to become contenders again by making marginal moves or waiting for greatness to come to them.
Pure and simple, all things considered, the Lakers must start taking calculated risks to put them in position to win. I've already stated why I firmly believe Zach has the right stuff.
And yeah, I guess we'll just have to see. But you know what happens if I'm right? Nothing.
What's his NBA role? We know he won't be a basket protecting big man, nor a back-to-the-basket go-to guy, nor a floor spreading PF.
NBA Ready, for what, especially on this team, with at least two ball-dominant guards in each rotation (Lin/Kobe, Nash/Young) who need clearly defined role players? And the logistical built-in limitation with the addition of Carlos Boozer, who in all likelihood will start or at least get a ton of minutes?
Let's look at big picture. Lakers won't be competitive for championships unless they have 3 elite players on their team with strong role players. Randle's upside is the latter than the former. Nothing wrong with that, but this whole thread is predicated on the premise that Zach has many of the attributes that mark a superstar.
Again, an elite athlete with 2-guard size and point guard skills? I'm going all in.
I like Randle, I just look at all his attributes and don't think he can be a top player in this league. Nothing wrong with that, even if say he were the most NBA-ready of any player in the draft.
And Minny's biggest hole is at PF for sure, even with Thad, who by all measures is a small forward, plays like a small forward, statistically is a SF, and gets killed defensively at PF (82games.com has him giving up all-star production to the opponent at the PF). Bennett? I mean, this guy was essentially the worst player in the NBA last year.
SG? Deepest position by far. Kevin Martin, Corey Brewer, Alexey Shved...not to mention Chase Budinger coming back and the additions of Wiggins and Shabbaz making the wings pretty crowded for the Wolves.
It's a sensible trade for both teams. Is LaVine a bit of a reach?
Maybe, but I think it's worth it because the reality is that the Lakers' options for getting superstar talent are limited.
Lakers are in a position where they just have to take some risks, or be stuck in mediocrity.
Think things are rough now? When Kobe retires, then what?
The issue goes beyond money or CBA (the Knicks have sucked forever)
The Lakers, through luck and good management, have often gotten the best players at the right time - when they were attainable.
Kobe has gotten into this space where he is a self-styled teacher and mentor. Where he's come to terms with his mortality and the end. He's not going to go gentle into the night, no.
But it would be a tremendous waste not to use Kobe's active teaching and setting example to infuse a successor with the optimized nurturing that maximizes nature.
It's a fact that Kobe has helped and made certain players better (almost all of them guards and wing players, btw).
Think Zach has some holes in his game? Well Kobe will fill those gaps. That's my point. Think Zach isn't good enough? Kobe will elevate him. Because Zach has all the right tools. They're there.
Can't be risk adverse when you're the small stack. Think the game through. Look at where the league is going. What players are doing. Now imagine where the Lakers are going, three, four moves ahead.
Lakers aren't going to become contenders again by making marginal moves or waiting for greatness to come to them.
Pure and simple, all things considered, the Lakers must start taking calculated risks to put them in position to win. I've already stated why I firmly believe Zach has the right stuff.
And yeah, I guess we'll just have to see. But you know what happens if I'm right? Nothing.
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Re: A Kobe Bryant Replacement Proposal: Zach LaVine
You post on a message board. We only do it for credibility, we dont setup reward accounts and give you $5 for every accurate projection.
And if youre wrong, with rhis type of effort and passion youve shown, then you look like lilojmayo did on the general nba board and everyone clowns on you till you leave.
And if youre wrong, with rhis type of effort and passion youve shown, then you look like lilojmayo did on the general nba board and everyone clowns on you till you leave.
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Re: A Kobe Bryant Replacement Proposal: Zach LaVine
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Re: A Kobe Bryant Replacement Proposal: Zach LaVine
Also, to explain it another way... Nba ready for the NBA. Think of him in a Faried type role from early on. An energy guy who will rebound, do the clean up on offensive boards, and run the floor.
Let me know in 3 years if Zach accomplishes anything in the NBA to start his career.
Let me know in 3 years if Zach accomplishes anything in the NBA to start his career.
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Re: A Kobe Bryant Replacement Proposal: Zach LaVine
Also Wolves aren't doing this deal so you don't really need to try and convince Lakers fans whether this is a good deal or not. They already got T Young & Bennett, also PF is the easiest position in the NBA to fill.
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Re: A Kobe Bryant Replacement Proposal: Zach LaVine
Takingbaconback wrote:Also Wolves aren't doing this deal so you don't really need to try and convince Lakers fans whether this is a good deal or not. They already got T Young & Bennett, also PF is the easiest position in the NBA to fill.
It helps when you hit the lottery with Garnett and love. No big deal though if he works out we can get him in 7 years through free agency.




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Re: A Kobe Bryant Replacement Proposal: Zach LaVine
TyCobb wrote:You post on a message board. We only do it for credibility, we dont setup reward accounts and give you $5 for every accurate projection.
And if youre wrong, with rhis type of effort and passion youve shown, then you look like lilojmayo did on the general nba board and everyone clowns on you till you leave.
LOL, it will be funny (either way) when someone resurrects this thread 3 years from now.

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Re: A Kobe Bryant Replacement Proposal: Zach LaVine
TyCobb wrote:You post on a message board. We only do it for credibility, we dont setup reward accounts and give you $5 for every accurate projection.
And if youre wrong, with rhis type of effort and passion youve shown, then you look like lilojmayo did on the general nba board and everyone clowns on you till you leave.
Speak for yourself. I post for fun. I could care less about credibility. I love the Lakers and obsess about ways we can win. It's fun for me, I could care less about what my credibility is. Clown to your heart's content.
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