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Re: LA Lakers vs Phoenix Suns, Game #6, 7:00 PST 

Post#181 » by bws94 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 2:58 pm

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But I would be...


Me too. I like Lin. Dragic is an excellent player but Lin has a little more excitement to his game. I think it is how he tends to involve the whole team and maybe he'll turn out to be a strong defender. I also like how he tends to step it up in the 4th quarter. I'd like to see the Lakers shore up in other areas and have Lin play his prime as a Laker. I think it's a good fit.

I think some 3-point gunners, a stronger perimeter defender with a decent shot (something of a Bowen type), a better younger Boozer type, a stronger center, further development of Randle and it's a contending team again. Hopefully Kobe stays healthy and has a few more productive years.

I'm not down on Wesley either, it's preseason and he has the potential to be an impact player and also really turn it around once he gets into a rhythm as the season progresses. He just has to not get too down on himself, study film and learn from it, figure out his strengths and maybe simplify things some. Everybody and anybody can have a nightmare game. His wasn't a nightmare but he made crucial errors. Happens. There's a lot of tomorrow's left, it's not a deciding 4th loss in a playoff.
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Re: LA Lakers vs Phoenix Suns, Game #6, 7:00 PST 

Post#182 » by bws94 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:00 pm

Kilroy wrote:Hard to say a game was lost because of one player but 8 turnovers? Damn...


That's a lot, yes. But I remember a regular season game, maybe last season or the season before when D-Wade had 8 turnovers. If that is his season high and it is pre-season, it's good. Kobe seemed to think his missing FT and struggling will help Wes in the long run.

(I do realize D-Wade handles the ball more than Wes, but even great players can have high TO games)
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Re: LA Lakers vs Phoenix Suns, Game #6, 7:00 PST 

Post#183 » by Kilroy » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:03 pm

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Kilroy wrote:Hard to say a game was lost because of one player but 8 turnovers? Damn...


That's a lot, yes. But I remember a regular season game, maybe last season or the season before when D-Wade had 8 turnovers. If that is his season high and it is pre-season, it's good. Kobe seemed to think his missing FT and struggling will help Wes in the long run.

(I do realize D-Wade handles the ball more than Wes, but even great players can have high TO games)


How many assists did Wade have though?
8 turnovers isn't bad for a guy who's running the offense or at least sharing the load of distributing the ball, but for a catch and shoot guy, it's horrific.
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Re: LA Lakers vs Phoenix Suns, Game #6, 7:00 PST 

Post#184 » by bws94 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:06 pm

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Kilroy wrote:Hard to say a game was lost because of one player but 8 turnovers? Damn...


That's a lot, yes. But I remember a regular season game, maybe last season or the season before when D-Wade had 8 turnovers. If that is his season high and it is pre-season, it's good. Kobe seemed to think his missing FT and struggling will help Wes in the long run.

(I do realize D-Wade handles the ball more than Wes, but even great players can have high TO games)


How many assists did Wade have though?
8 turnovers isn't bad for a guy who's running the offense or at least sharing the load of distributing the ball, but for a catch and shoot guy, it's horrific.


Probably a good amount for Wade in that game. In the context of Wesley's game, 8 turnovers is horrendous. But it can be a good learning experience for him. I liked some of the things he does and he's athletic. It's just a matter of bringing it all together and cutting down on errors. I'm not sure of his mental approach, that may be the problem.
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Re: LA Lakers vs Phoenix Suns, Game #6, 7:00 PST 

Post#185 » by Kilroy » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:08 pm

He's not a bad player, but people have called him a space cadet... I agree after last night... He just seems to lack focus. Most of his mistakes were just light-headed.
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Post#186 » by LApwnd » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:15 pm

bws94 wrote:
Kilroy wrote:Hard to say a game was lost because of one player but 8 turnovers? Damn...


That's a lot, yes. But I remember a regular season game, maybe last season or the season before when D-Wade had 8 turnovers. If that is his season high and it is pre-season, it's good. Kobe seemed to think his missing FT and struggling will help Wes in the long run.

(I do realize D-Wade handles the ball more than Wes, but even great players can have high TO games)


Wes is truly just a tall person who can jump high that plays ball, rather than a true basketball player.
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Re: LA Lakers vs Phoenix Suns, Game #6, 7:00 PST 

Post#187 » by ChokeFasncists » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:40 pm

Let's see if Jeremy could help him out a little bit, set him up for set shots and easy baskets, less need for dribbling and passing.
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Post#188 » by crazyeights » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:24 pm

When Wes made those turnovers he was playing in a lineup he'll never play with for the rest of the year. IMO Byron wanted to give him room to work the kinks out on his own.

He obviously was out of his depth, but in small, controlled amounts it's a good thing.

People are too quick to draw conclusions in the preseason.
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Post#189 » by LApwnd » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:19 pm

crazyeights wrote:When Wes made those turnovers he was playing in a lineup he'll never play with for the rest of the year. IMO Byron wanted to give him room to work the kinks out on his own.

He obviously was out of his depth, but in small, controlled amounts it's a good thing.

People are too quick to draw conclusions in the preseason.


and when he repeats this sort of performance during the season, then what will you say? He's been in the league for sometime now......I associate everything he does bad as just being a moron when it comes being a basketball player, like the possession where he turns it over, then following that TO he reaches on transition leading to an EASY 3pt play rather than just trying to get sound position.

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