Lakers @ Rockets Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:30 PM ET -

[kblo247]

What? Beverley doesn't penetrate and Lin stuffed him when he tried to. Beverley did damage by hitting 3s. The problem was sometimes the PGs helping on defense, not him penetrating. Kobe and Nick were in the back court as scoring and to rest Lin because he never really got into rhythm. I think Boozer's defense has been bad, PG defense has been acceptable to good to very good at times. It is the bigs Byron was annoyed at in the GS game more than the PGs.

Lin has the fn worst drtg on the damn team for rotation guys ...

PG defense has been ass all year, Price has defended better than him stats wise so far. Kobe's been the best starting perimeter defender dig wise, wes has a better drtg, nick has had a better drtg than Lin, and so has Wayne when he played,. Booz, Hill, and Davis all have a better dry, than our starting 1. Our D at the point of attack which is the PG and containing penetration and kickouts to 3s has been suspect. A lot of it doesn't even have to do with Lin being a purely bad defender, it has to do with him being freaking Linsaity one day and Casper the other as he doesn't make guys work some days and turns it over leading to easy buckets. If Lin was steady over high/low day to day, our D would be better.

What we saw yesterday was that Nick and Kobe at the 1/2 which ever spot u want to list them made opposing d accountable, took their legs, and played better d. And no way around it Beverly took Lin's proverbial cookie yesterday and showed why he would start

Honestly I think you just have a thing with Lin. Beverley outplayed Lin but it was team defense that stopped Lin, Lin got by Beverley plenty of times and they both blocked each other once and I think stole the ball from each other once. Beverley did not shut Lin down, it took team defense. Beverley slowed Lin down like he does a lot of PGs.

I would have liked Lin to have played better but he didn't. So we move on and he'll hopefully get into a more steady groove as the young season progresses. His D has been absolutely fine. He gives good effort and forces PGs into tough shots. Guys will get past him just like he gets past guys. Then it is up to the help defense to do their thing or not. I think he helps too much and leaves the 3 point shooter open and yes, that's a problem that he needs to fix. But he isn't the only one on the team that does that. Lin gives good effort on D and it may even affect his offense with the amount of effort he's giving. Too bad, he'll have to get himself in shape to play both ends of the floor. But the effort is there and he makes PGs work for their shots and he fights through picks. He'll get better at that too.

Yes I have a thing with the teams second highest paid player and minute guy not being consistent. Hes not in good shape, if he was he would play both ends and not look like 36 year old kobe is supposed to look the second night of b2bs. He should show up on the road. No excuses he should defend well. No excuses he should show up on the road. He should never be limited to 2 shots. He shouldn't ever be afraid to play. Yet he is. My biggest fn problem with lin is he is consistently inconsistent night to night. He is the polar opposite of a guy like fisher who showed up every night, always ready to play, always in shape, and with balls of steel at the same age. It's maddening watch a guy have a more up and down year than even Smush had yet be excused with but he tried or maybe next time

[baki]

Lin has the fn worst drtg on the damn team for rotation guys ...

PG defense has been ass all year, Price has defended better than him stats wise so far. Kobe's been the best starting perimeter defender dig wise, wes has a better drtg, nick has had a better drtg than Lin, and so has Wayne when he played,. Booz, Hill, and Davis all have a better dry, than our starting 1. Our D at the point of attack which is the PG and containing penetration and kickouts to 3s has been suspect. A lot of it doesn't even have to do with Lin being a purely bad defender, it has to do with him being freaking Linsaity one day and Casper the other as he doesn't make guys work some days and turns it over leading to easy buckets. If Lin was steady over high/low day to day, our D would be better.

What we saw yesterday was that Nick and Kobe at the 1/2 which ever spot u want to list them made opposing d accountable, took their legs, and played better d. And no way around it Beverly took Lin's proverbial cookie yesterday and showed why he would start

Honestly I think you just have a thing with Lin. Beverley outplayed Lin but it was team defense that stopped Lin, Lin got by Beverley plenty of times and they both blocked each other once and I think stole the ball from each other once. Beverley did not shut Lin down, it took team defense. Beverley slowed Lin down like he does a lot of PGs.

I would have liked Lin to have played better but he didn't. So we move on and he'll hopefully get into a more steady groove as the young season progresses. His D has been absolutely fine. He gives good effort and forces PGs into tough shots. Guys will get past him just like he gets past guys. Then it is up to the help defense to do their thing or not. I think he helps too much and leaves the 3 point shooter open and yes, that's a problem that he needs to fix. But he isn't the only one on the team that does that. Lin gives good effort on D and it may even affect his offense with the amount of effort he's giving. Too bad, he'll have to get himself in shape to play both ends of the floor. But the effort is there and he makes PGs work for their shots and he fights through picks. He'll get better at that too.

Yes I have a thing with the teams second highest paid player and minute guy not being consistent. Hes not in good shape, if he was he would play both ends and not look like 36 year old kobe is supposed to look the second night of b2bs. He should show up on the road. No excuses he should defend well. No excuses he should show up on the road. He should never be limited to 2 shots. He shouldn't ever be afraid to play. Yet he is. My biggest fn problem with lin is he is consistently inconsistent night to night. He is the polar opposite of a guy like fisher who showed up every night, always ready to play, always in shape, and with balls of steel at the same age. It's maddening watch a guy have a more up and down year than even Smush had yet be excused with but he tried or maybe next time

My one and only advice for you is to step away from the keyboard and do something else when it comes to Lin. There are so many genuine underachievers to complain about on other threads if that's your thing

[bws94]

Lin has the fn worst drtg on the damn team for rotation guys ...

PG defense has been ass all year, Price has defended better than him stats wise so far. Kobe's been the best starting perimeter defender dig wise, wes has a better drtg, nick has had a better drtg than Lin, and so has Wayne when he played,. Booz, Hill, and Davis all have a better dry, than our starting 1. Our D at the point of attack which is the PG and containing penetration and kickouts to 3s has been suspect. A lot of it doesn't even have to do with Lin being a purely bad defender, it has to do with him being freaking Linsaity one day and Casper the other as he doesn't make guys work some days and turns it over leading to easy buckets. If Lin was steady over high/low day to day, our D would be better.

What we saw yesterday was that Nick and Kobe at the 1/2 which ever spot u want to list them made opposing d accountable, took their legs, and played better d. And no way around it Beverly took Lin's proverbial cookie yesterday and showed why he would start

Honestly I think you just have a thing with Lin. Beverley outplayed Lin but it was team defense that stopped Lin, Lin got by Beverley plenty of times and they both blocked each other once and I think stole the ball from each other once. Beverley did not shut Lin down, it took team defense. Beverley slowed Lin down like he does a lot of PGs.

I would have liked Lin to have played better but he didn't. So we move on and he'll hopefully get into a more steady groove as the young season progresses. His D has been absolutely fine. He gives good effort and forces PGs into tough shots. Guys will get past him just like he gets past guys. Then it is up to the help defense to do their thing or not. I think he helps too much and leaves the 3 point shooter open and yes, that's a problem that he needs to fix. But he isn't the only one on the team that does that. Lin gives good effort on D and it may even affect his offense with the amount of effort he's giving. Too bad, he'll have to get himself in shape to play both ends of the floor. But the effort is there and he makes PGs work for their shots and he fights through picks. He'll get better at that too.

Yes I have a thing with the teams second highest paid player and minute guy not being consistent. Hes not in good shape, if he was he would play both ends and not look like 36 year old kobe is supposed to look the second night of b2bs. He should show up on the road. No excuses he should defend well. No excuses he should show up on the road. He should never be limited to 2 shots. He shouldn't ever be afraid to play. Yet he is. My biggest fn problem with lin is he is consistently inconsistent night to night. He is the polar opposite of a guy like fisher who showed up every night, always ready to play, always in shape, and with balls of steel at the same age. It's maddening watch a guy have a more up and down year than even Smush had yet be excused with but he tried or maybe next time

The road has nothing to do with how he played. He played like garbage, absolute garbage at Staples on Sunday. He played one of his better games on the road on Tuesday. In Houston he played poorly. He's played fine on the road and through his career the road or home has little bearing on how he performs. The guy has fans in almost every arena anyway. And I think he does defend effectively and will improve at it like he will improve at other facets of the game. But he'll have his ups and downs and have bad games sometimes. And I really don't care who he is unlike. He's Lin, I don't expect him to be like Fisher, Beverley or anyone else. He has to find the way to be the best he can be that works for him. He's not the only guy in sports with confidence issues, Wesley has them too. Heck, even LeBron did at times in his career.

How much he is paid has to do with the stupidity of Morey. It isn't Lin's fault. He isn't going to magically transform into some perfect player because Morey structured his contract so stupidly just like Asik, who has a similar contract, isn't going to suddenly stop fumbling balls because of how much he is paid.

Lin is a work in progress. I agree it is frustrating sometimes to watch but he is going through his growing pains on what looks to be a non-contending team. But, like Lin, I hope the team grows and competes and will turn into a contender next year. With Randle healthy, it just might. Right now it is the early stages of a lot of new guys learning a system and each other and it shows. That's how I see it anyway.

[ChokeFasncists]

When looking at that particular stat, maybe think, small sample size and opponents' strength?

It sucks hell that Lin is so inconsistent by his D is generally good. It's easy to guard Curry? Parker? Conley? Walker? Thomas? Bledsoe? Holiday? Teague? *Let's see how he does against Nelson.

The guy is green and it's basically the first time he is the real starting PG on a team with a coach. (anyone is better than McFail *who never calls plays) He has to do it without a real training camp and preseason. At least he's shooting a high percentage in FG, 3pt and FT.

Gotta be patient with this kinda player, one will be rewarded when he grows, has it figured out and becomes consistent. Lin's ceiling is much higher than Fisher's in terms of both scoring and playmaking, not quite a fair comparison. I mean, it's like you never had growing pain? Stop whining about it. If one has more tools, it'd take longer to master them.

It is maddening, but saying that he has the worst D on the team is close to roach-like behavior, seriously annoying. The main problem with this team is definitely interior D.

The SF position has improved a great deal with Young being back. It seems like Wes has figured out how to guard smaller/quicker players like Harden, it's to hunch down a lot. Of course, that takes more energy and perhaps he's able to do that cuz Young is back and he doesn't have to play so much.

Congradz Wes for that nice steal/layup. I'd imagine if he keeps at it, he would be able to develop better chemistry with Lin, who can feed him easy baskets so he could utilize his athletic ability better finishing around the rim.

Lin's D isn't perfect; he still has the tendency to help too much, as another has pointed out and even tho he has visibly improved on fighting thru screen it's still a work in progress. However, saying that his D is worse than Boozer's is disingenuous at best and your smear campaign doesn't reflect bad on Lin, it reflects bad on you.

Anyways, poor Dwight, how often does he see his kids? I thought he's a funny and goofy guy? The poor Rockets depleted their roster and got dumped by Bosh at the last moment. They're out of the PO if Dwight is suspended for a while. LMAO for having Black there to shoot the potential game winner.

It's strange, whenever Lin played in NY he played well, it's the second time he played bad against Houston. It was really a special thing what happened in NY, probably a once in a lifetime experience. What if the Harden trade never happened? Well, no use crying over spilled milk, his destiny is in his own hands.

[baki]

Honestly I think you just have a thing with Lin. Beverley outplayed Lin but it was team defense that stopped Lin, Lin got by Beverley plenty of times and they both blocked each other once and I think stole the ball from each other once. Beverley did not shut Lin down, it took team defense. Beverley slowed Lin down like he does a lot of PGs.

I would have liked Lin to have played better but he didn't. So we move on and he'll hopefully get into a more steady groove as the young season progresses. His D has been absolutely fine. He gives good effort and forces PGs into tough shots. Guys will get past him just like he gets past guys. Then it is up to the help defense to do their thing or not. I think he helps too much and leaves the 3 point shooter open and yes, that's a problem that he needs to fix. But he isn't the only one on the team that does that. Lin gives good effort on D and it may even affect his offense with the amount of effort he's giving. Too bad, he'll have to get himself in shape to play both ends of the floor. But the effort is there and he makes PGs work for their shots and he fights through picks. He'll get better at that too.

Yes I have a thing with the teams second highest paid player and minute guy not being consistent. Hes not in good shape, if he was he would play both ends and not look like 36 year old kobe is supposed to look the second night of b2bs. He should show up on the road. No excuses he should defend well. No excuses he should show up on the road. He should never be limited to 2 shots. He shouldn't ever be afraid to play. Yet he is. My biggest fn problem with lin is he is consistently inconsistent night to night. He is the polar opposite of a guy like fisher who showed up every night, always ready to play, always in shape, and with balls of steel at the same age. It's maddening watch a guy have a more up and down year than even Smush had yet be excused with but he tried or maybe next time

The road has nothing to do with how he played. He played like garbage, absolute garbage at Staples on Sunday. He played one of his better games on the road on Tuesday. In Houston he played poorly. He's played fine on the road and through his career the road or home has little bearing on how he performs. The guy has fans in almost every arena anyway. And I think he does defend effectively and will improve at it like he will improve at other facets of the game. But he'll have his ups and downs and have bad games sometimes. And I really don't care who he is unlike. He's Lin, I don't expect him to be like Fisher, Beverley or anyone else. He has to find the way to be the best he can be that works for him. He's not the only guy in sports with confidence issues, Wesley has them too. Heck, even LeBron did at times in his career.

How much he is paid has to do with the stupidity of Morey. It isn't Lin's fault. He isn't going to magically transform into some perfect player because Morey structured his contract so stupidly just like Asik, who has a similar contract, isn't going to suddenly stop fumbling balls because of how much he is paid.

Lin is a work in progress. I agree it is frustrating sometimes to watch but he is going through his growing pains on what looks to be a non-contending team. But, like Lin, I hope the team grows and competes and will turn into a contender next year. With Randle healthy, it just might. Right now it is the early stages of a lot of new guys learning a system and each other and it shows. That's how I see it anyway.

Too much to say for someone who never watched the entire game.

[ckman]

You stop the drive of a pg and the rim protectors be it Davis/hill/even boozer get a second or two more to react. PG defense has been the worst all year. It was so bad we went to Kobe and Nick in the back court with Wes at 3 to stop bleeding last night in the third so Beverly couldn't penetrate

What? Beverley doesn't penetrate and Lin stuffed him when he tried to. Beverley did damage by hitting 3s. The problem was sometimes the PGs helping on defense, not him penetrating. Kobe and Nick were in the back court as scoring and to rest Lin because he never really got into rhythm. I think Boozer's defense has been bad, PG defense has been acceptable to good to very good at times. It is the bigs Byron was annoyed at in the GS game more than the PGs.

Lin has the fn worst drtg on the damn team for rotation guys ...

PG defense has been ass all year, Price has defended better than him stats wise so far. Kobe's been the best starting perimeter defender dig wise, wes has a better drtg, nick has had a better drtg than Lin, and so has Wayne when he played,. Booz, Hill, and Davis all have a better dry, than our starting 1. Our D at the point of attack which is the PG and containing penetration and kickouts to 3s has been suspect. A lot of it doesn't even have to do with Lin being a purely bad defender, it has to do with him being freaking Linsaity one day and Casper the other as he doesn't make guys work some days and turns it over leading to easy buckets. If Lin was steady over high/low day to day, our D would be better.

What we saw yesterday was that Nick and Kobe at the 1/2 which ever spot u want to list them made opposing d accountable, took their legs, and played better d. And no way around it Beverly took Lin's proverbial cookie yesterday and showed why he would start

If you want to criticize someone at least get it right.
nba.com did not listed him as the worst drtg player on the team, Boozer is.
Though basketball reference listed him tied at last with Wes but our best rating player is just +7 ahead so there's not much difference at all. btw they also listed Kobe with the 2nd worst ortg among rotation players, tied with Sacre and only better than Price, so you're saying we would be better offensively without Kobe?
dude, get over it and enjoy the win

[Mamba Venom]

Was Dwight really hurt or was he as Horry put it brock broack?

[ChokeFasncists]

Dwight Howard Undergoes PRP Treatment On Knee, No Timetable For Return

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... For-Return

So it looks like he's actually hurt.