The #SWAGEFFECT

[EArl]

[Marionettetc]

WOX, man to man, I used to act like how you are on message boards when I was 19 and angry. Whats your excuse?

Life, basketball and realgm ain't that real bro.

Every single person who's like "we're 2-3" with swaggy playing" is just having some fun with an otherwise lost Lakers season. You know that right?

Two things, one, there's nothing fun about this, and two, there are people who genuinely believe in this and feel as if he's a good player. He's not. Now we're tied down with this terrible contract with this terrible player who will only regress with time.

Tell me, what do you want this swagtard moron representing our team? Why?

I appreciate your passion as a fellow lakers fan WOX, just wanted to let you know that.

To some people (myself included) sure it's fun having a clown on our go nowhere team who can randomly look like an all star. I understand what it looks like to you, and can even relate. I feel the way you describe about most of the Lin fans on this board, from how you describe Nick.

I think you're undervaluing him though, what do you expect from a guy that makes like 5 million a year? My answer - exactly what Nick does. He's a legit scoring threat, a streaky shooter and can create his own shot. He's obviously not a starter on a championship team but I think his ego and contract reflect that. If you will remember we've paid, in recent years, Vladman and Walton about the same amount. If you feel Nick is a worse player than those two, you need your basketball fan license revoked.

To your final question, why not? This season has already been written off by management. Kobe is selling tickets and gear and we're on track to win like 15 games this year.

If we were in the hunt for a deep playoff run, you can bet everyone would have turned on Kobe for his bad shooting and Nick's "antics", but we're not and the team's problems run a lot deeper than a 26 year old who's having fun in LA being a millionaire. You know?

[WOX_69]

I appreciate your passion as a fellow lakers fan WOX, just wanted to let you know that.

To some people (myself included) sure it's fun having a clown on our go nowhere team who can randomly look like an all star. I understand what it looks like to you, and can even relate. I feel the way you describe about most of the Lin fans on this board, from how you describe Nick.

I think you're undervaluing him though, what do you expect from a guy that makes like 5 million a year? My answer - exactly what Nick does. He's a legit scoring threat, a streaky shooter and can create his own shot. He's obviously not a starter on a championship team but I think his ego and contract reflect that. If you will remember we've paid, in recent years, Vladman and Walton about the same amount. If you feel Nick is a worse player than those two, you need your basketball fan license revoked.

To your final question, why not? This season has already been written off by management. Kobe is selling tickets and gear and we're on track to win like 15 games this year.

If we were in the hunt for a deep playoff run, you can bet everyone would have turned on Kobe for his bad shooting and Nick's "antics", but we're not and the team's problems run a lot deeper than a 26 year old who's having fun in LA being a millionaire. You know?

Trust me, I love clowns as much as anyone. I love Turiaf when he was with us. I loved Odom with his (Most unintentional) clown type antics. What I don't appreciate are "clowns" who have an over-inflated ego who makes himself out to be bigger than the team. I don't appreciate his appearance (From his haircut to his attire off the court) to his general aloof stupid attitude. That I just simply won't tolerate, even moreso when he's not a good player. Did you ever see people say something like "OH THE FRENCH FACTOR, BLAH BLAH" whenever Turiaf had a good game, much less when other players had BETTER games that had nothing to do with him? It's absolutely ridiculous.

He's streaky yes, but his IQ is terrible. His sole purpose is throw up as many shots as he can regardless of anything. He never creates for others, I mean ever. Not even one game where he thinks "You know, maybe I can get this player involved, they sag off him a bit.". Nothing. He's a poor rebounder for his size and position. He's a very poor defender. He has zero basketball IQ. EVERY made shot has to have some antic attached to it. He's extremely inefficient.

I don't need to undervalue him even if I wanted to, the rest of the league shows that. The Clippers didn't re-sign him, this is after he helped them in that one game mount that against Memphis in the playoffs. No other team wanted him this offseason. No contender made offers for him. Even the middle of the line or rebuilding teams didn't make an offers, doesn't that tell you something? He's bounced around the league for a reason. He's not a good player.

Walton's and Vlad's contracts (Vlad moreso) were predicated by contract years. Vlad was a space cadet on defense and never got his shot to fall consistently for us. Walton at best did everything "decently" and at worse did everything in an "ok" fashion. His ball movement was always good and his contract year for us he was good overall, but yes we did overvalue them.

That being said, they both performed statistically better in every category except for scoring, and that's due to how many shots they threw up. That's not me talking, that's stats talking. So again, why are we acting as if Nick Young is a good player?

If we were in the playoff hunt Nick Young would have been nowhere near this team, period. Furthermore he's not 26, he's 29. He's time for him to "get it" is over, he's not going to get it and he's just going to get worse.

[WOX_69]

While that's all wonderful, how many Player of the Week awards has that "swag" netted him? Player of the month? All-Star event appearances? All-Star game appearances? What about end of seasons honors? What about All-NBA teans? And championship rings? What about international play? No seriously, tell me, I don't know.

[Penberthy]

While that's all wonderful, how many Player of the Week awards has that "swag" netted him? Player of the month? All-Star event appearances? All-Star game appearances? What about end of seasons honors? What about All-NBA teans? And championship rings? What about international play? No seriously, tell me, I don't know.

Same amount as Derek Fisher Robert Horry Rick Fox and on down the line.

[WOX_69]

Same amount as Derek Fisher Robert Horry Rick Fox and on down the line.

Except you'd be wrong because both Horry and Fox have All-Rookie 2nd Team awards, Fisher was in an All-Star event in 2004 and most importantly played tremendously well for us in their roles to help up bring three championships during 2000-2002 and Fisher helped bring two more in 2009 and 2010.

It's frankly insulting that you'd even THINK of comparing these men to that swagtard Nick Young. How despicable. Do you have no pride as a Laker fan?

[kblo247]

You can't speak on pride when you readily say I rather he **** my girl; you have none bruh

[Penberthy]

Same amount as Derek Fisher Robert Horry Rick Fox and on down the line.

Except you'd be wrong because both Horry and Fox have All-Rookie 2nd Team awards, Fisher was in an All-Star event in 2004 and most importantly played tremendously well for us in their roles to help up bring three championships during 2000-2002 and Fisher helped bring two more in 2009 and 2010.

It's frankly insulting that you'd even THINK of comparing these men to that swagtard Nick Young. How despicable. Do you have no pride as a Laker fan?

Just showing that the things you originally mentioned "Player of the Week awards has that "swag" netted him? Player of the month? All-Star event appearances? All-Star game appearances? What about end of seasons honors? What about All-NBA teans?" Don't prove the players value. The fact remains that Lin was playing like a frightened abused puppy before he saw the way Nick just looked off Kobe and tried to get his. Other players have been affected in this way as well. It's OBVIOUS to us non haters. In fact, it's the EXACT same quality that fish Horry and fox had, they did not shy away from the big shot, make or miss, and did not let Kobe intimidate them. That is precisely what this team needs more of, not less. Keep hating though, it's easy with this team.

Oh and what kblo said.

[WOX_69]

You can't speak on pride when you readily say I rather he **** my girl; you have none bruh

I said I'd rather have him do that than have his dick in my mouth like the rest of you. Learn to read.

Just showing that the things you originally mentioned "Player of the Week awards has that "swag" netted him? Player of the month? All-Star event appearances? All-Star game appearances? What about end of seasons honors? What about All-NBA teans?" Don't prove the players value. The fact remains that Lin was playing like a frightened abused puppy before he saw the way Nick just looked off Kobe and tried to get his. Other players have been affected in this way as well. It's OBVIOUS to us non haters. In fact, it's the EXACT same quality that fish Horry and fox had, they did not shy away from the big shot, make or miss, and did not let Kobe intimidate them. That is precisely what this team needs more of, not less. Keep hating though, it's easy with this team.

Oh and what kblo said.

Are you serious? Fisher, Fox, Horry all had values and played within their role. They didn't make some stupid gimmick for themselves. They played and they played to win, not to be some stupid "Swaggy hurr durr" image to play up to morons.

Lin had to horrendous games before Young returned, fine. But guess what, he had some good games before he came. Nick Young returning had NO EFFECT on Lin's game whatsoever, except maybe gives him more opportunities to get offensive rebounds.

I'm also not talking about being afraid of the moment, it's about being a black hole on offense and not providing any sort of positive effect on the team. Not defensively, no in rebounding, not in efficiency, no in playmaking, not in leadership, nothing. It's laughable that you even can think he might provide ANYTHING positive.

[Penberthy]

I figured it out, you just hate the word swag.

[WOX_69]

I figured it out, you just hate the word swag.

While I hate the word "swag", I hate Nick Young because he's Nick Young and people fawn over this stupid gimmick of his to the point of overlooking his horrendous play.

[WOX_69]

Dude just said he wouldn't call how we played defensively "terrible" after giving up 120 points. How do you defend this guy?

And now he's not accepting responsibility for his foul that sent Thaddeus Young to the line. Seriously, **** this guy.

[D Nice]

This is, bar none, the most pathetic thing I'v ever seen on a message board...

[kblo247]

Dude just said he wouldn't call how we played defensively "terrible" after giving up 120 points. How do you defend this guy?

And now he's not accepting responsibility for his foul that sent Thaddeus Young to the line. Seriously, **** this guy.

He didn't place himself on a PF .... That was our illustrious general Scott who put a 2 on a 4 who had been posting all night

[WOX_69]

Dude just said he wouldn't call how we played defensively "terrible" after giving up 120 points. How do you defend this guy?

And now he's not accepting responsibility for his foul that sent Thaddeus Young to the line. Seriously, **** this guy.

He didn't place himself on a PF .... That was our illustrious general Scott who put a 2 on a 4 who had been posting all night

I like how you totally ignore my other points, but I'll play your game.

Thaddeus Young got the ball around the three point line, faked a hand off to Mo Williams, spun left and drove. He's doing Nick Young a favor by putting the ball on the floor, but yet since he's terrible defensively fouls him which results in Thaddeus Young getting the go ahead free throw.

Like I said, it's just sickening how you people just defend everything he does because of some stupid gimmick.

[Kilroy]

This is, bar none, the most pathetic thing I'v ever seen on a message board...

I agree... This is some of the worst posting I've ever seen in my natural life... Congrats guys... You've established a new baseline...

And it's not the least bit ironic to me that it happened on a Nick Young thread.