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Re: Woj: Lin one and done player 

Post#21 » by One Love » Fri Dec 5, 2014 4:43 pm

A $16.5 million back up point guard with no confidence, marginal defense and no respect from peers or refs isn't worth deal on the market... Dude is a bust and should be making $3.0 million a year and coming off the bench in GS or NY...

True definition of Linsanity: $16.5 million...
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Re: Woj: Lin one and done player 

Post#22 » by One Love » Fri Dec 5, 2014 4:44 pm

A $16.5 million back up point guard with no confidence, marginal defense and no respect from peers or refs isn't worth deal on the market... Dude is a bust and should be making $3.0 million a year and coming off the bench in GS or NY...

True definition of Linsanity: $16.5 million...
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Post#23 » by Tonyism74 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:47 pm

Kalidogg24 wrote:Jeremy should and will get a Steve Blake/Nick Young type contract.
Anywhere around 3-5 mill a season on a 3-4 year type contract.

Especially if we can lure a starting caliber type point guard like a Rondo or Westbrook. Jeremy coming off the bench with SwaggyP would be ideal . If we gave Farmar and Blake that opportunity Jeremy for sure is much better than both of them.

Not Jeremy's fault he got a pretty raw deal playing alongside the 3 most ball dominant players in the league.

Imo you can't pass on quality. From the starters to the bench. That's how you build championship contending rosters. If the Lakers pass on him please believe teams like the Spurs will come knocking on Jeremy's door AGAIN. Where imo in Pop's system Jeremy's style of play is more suited to flourish.


I still cant seem to remember the last PG we had that flourished alongside Kobe. Also, great point about Harden, Melo and Kobe...
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Re: Woj: Lin one and done player 

Post#24 » by ChokeFasncists » Sat Dec 6, 2014 12:10 am

What might have been without the Harden trade? Well, right now, if he keeps working and improving his situation has bound to improve sooner or later.
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
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Post#25 » by hayden » Sat Dec 6, 2014 12:14 am

One Love wrote:A $16.5 million back up point guard with no confidence, marginal defense and no respect from peers or refs isn't worth deal on the market... Dude is a bust and should be making $3.0 million a year and coming off the bench in GS or NY...

True definition of Linsanity: $16.5 million...


oh, the beauty in calling an undrafted player a bust
LarsV8 wrote:[Jeremy Lin] just isn't very good.
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Post#26 » by ChokeFasncists » Sat Dec 6, 2014 12:17 am

Lakers’ Jeremy Lin trying to meet challenge of playing with Kobe Bryant
http://www.dailynews.com/sports/2014120 ... obe-bryant

Thanks Kobe, hope you're get rewarded:
“I’ll go out there and leave it on the floor, everything, and compete and be relentless and not be fearful of criticism or fearful of not playing well or missing shots,” Bryant said. “That’s the same way I want the guys I’m playing with to be, Jeremy in particular. He’s a really good player.”

“Kobe has been great with Jeremy,” Lakers coach Byron Scott said. “There are times he’s hard on him. But during those times when he’s hard on him, he’ll give him a pat on the back and tell him, ‘This is what I want you to try to do.’ That’s been great. Jeremy has been willing to accept that. We all feel he can be a much better basketball player than he is.”

Good advice by Scott:
The reasons extend past Lin’s inconsistent chemistry with Bryant. Lin has described his play as “up and down” because his string of double-digit performances have been countered by occasionally scoreless games and late-game benchings. Scott has argued Lin needs to develop stronger “point guard instincts” that entail better clock management, spacing, ball handling and reading teammates’ tendencies.


Did Scott just snipe at MDA?
“In the system he was in, in New York, the ball was in his hand 95 percent of the time,” Scott said of Lin. “He was able to run pick-and-roll, get to the basket and get shots for himself.

“This system, you have to get other people shots as well.”


Good thinking by Lin:
But Lin revealed “it’s no secret” he does not feel comfortable in Scott’s Princeton-based offense. That system entails Lin and Bryant splitting ball-handling duties as well as isolation sets for Bryant. Instead, Lin has reported feeling most comfortable with free-flowing systems in Houston and New York that put a premium on ball movement and outside shooting.

“That’s not what we have here, but that’s OK. I feel like I’m further in my progress as a player where I can be effective in different ways,” said Lin, who is in his fifth NBA season. “It’s just a matter of seeing what your team has and what is your personnel. A spread run-and-gun, open floor pick-and-roll system might not be what’s best for us given our personnel. It’s just learning to play and be effective within whatever system Coach puts me in.”

Lin envisions a fruitful pairing with Bryant. He believes their overlapping high-fives, scoldings, text messages and film study will eventually produce a happy ending made for Hollywood. “I have no problem playing with him,” Lin said of Bryant. “He has respect for me. I have respect for him. We talk things through. We understand each other and know that it’s a growth process.”
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
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Re: Woj: Lin one and done player 

Post#27 » by ChokeFasncists » Sat Dec 6, 2014 12:22 am

One Love wrote:A $16.5 million back up point guard with no confidence, marginal defense and no respect from peers or refs isn't worth deal on the market... Dude is a bust and should be making $3.0 million a year and coming off the bench in GS or NY...

True definition of Linsanity: $16.5 million...

1. 16.5 mil: only 8 mil against the cap, 15 mil is the poison pill, Lakers get a 1 round pick for the money, which is totally compensated by the money he generates
2. no confidence: he had it and there's no reason to believe that he won't get it back
3. marginal defense:

Still, Lin is doing a pretty good job at ensuring his opponent isn’t performing to their usual levels. On two-point attempts, Lin is holding his opponent to 2.1 percent less than they shoot for the season. Inside 10 feet, he’s harassing them into 5.9 percent less and finally, he’s keeping them 6.1 percent below their averages inside six feet.

http://hoopshabit.com/2014/11/29/jeremy ... ar-lakers/
Depends on your definition of being marginal, probably not true.
4. less respect from peers or ref than warranted: this is disappointing but c'est la vie. One can only hope it goes away down the road
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
Thanks for the honesty.
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Post#28 » by crazyeights » Sat Dec 6, 2014 3:37 am

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One Love wrote:A $16.5 million back up point guard with no confidence, marginal defense and no respect from peers or refs isn't worth deal on the market... Dude is a bust and should be making $3.0 million a year and coming off the bench in GS or NY...

True definition of Linsanity: $16.5 million...

1. 16.5 mil: only 8 mil against the cap, 15 mil is the poison pill, Lakers get a 1 round pick for the money, which is totally compensated by the money he generates
2. no confidence: he had it and there's no reason to believe that he won't get it back
3. marginal defense:

Still, Lin is doing a pretty good job at ensuring his opponent isn’t performing to their usual levels. On two-point attempts, Lin is holding his opponent to 2.1 percent less than they shoot for the season. Inside 10 feet, he’s harassing them into 5.9 percent less and finally, he’s keeping them 6.1 percent below their averages inside six feet.

http://hoopshabit.com/2014/11/29/jeremy ... ar-lakers/
Depends on your definition of being marginal, probably not true.
4. less respect from peers or ref than warranted: this is disappointing but c'est la vie. One can only hope it goes away down the road


Looks like you did forget that 2nd part about 3 point defense....
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Post#29 » by ChokeFasncists » Sat Dec 6, 2014 3:44 am

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ChokeFasncists wrote:
One Love wrote:A $16.5 million back up point guard with no confidence, marginal defense and no respect from peers or refs isn't worth deal on the market... Dude is a bust and should be making $3.0 million a year and coming off the bench in GS or NY...

True definition of Linsanity: $16.5 million...

1. 16.5 mil: only 8 mil against the cap, 15 mil is the poison pill, Lakers get a 1 round pick for the money, which is totally compensated by the money he generates
2. no confidence: he had it and there's no reason to believe that he won't get it back
3. marginal defense:

Still, Lin is doing a pretty good job at ensuring his opponent isn’t performing to their usual levels. On two-point attempts, Lin is holding his opponent to 2.1 percent less than they shoot for the season. Inside 10 feet, he’s harassing them into 5.9 percent less and finally, he’s keeping them 6.1 percent below their averages inside six feet.

http://hoopshabit.com/2014/11/29/jeremy ... ar-lakers/
Depends on your definition of being marginal, probably not true.
4. less respect from peers or ref than warranted: this is disappointing but c'est la vie. One can only hope it goes away down the road


Looks like you did forget that 2nd part about 3 point defense....

:lol: OK.

Well, that's a different situation. We were seriously talking about team D in general and this is about attacking a player's D. Also, that part states that if there's better rim protection, Lin and the other perimeter defenders wouldn't have to sag so their 3 point defense would be improved.
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
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Re: Woj: Lin one and done player 

Post#30 » by Slava » Sat Dec 6, 2014 3:49 am

Lin is not our biggest problem, having a shot blocker and defensive quarterback along with a good pick and roll defense PF that can switch onto the guard if necessary and recover back is the biggest issue. If we fix that, the perimeter players will have a lot more freedom to play their own game and we can better judge Lin after that.
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Post#31 » by crazyeights » Sat Dec 6, 2014 3:54 am

Let me tease the children, Slava!
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Re: Woj: Lin one and done player 

Post#33 » by Kilroy » Sat Dec 6, 2014 3:57 am

Identifying biggest problems on this team might be a little unproductive. We have no legit 5 or 3... I'd say that's probably top of the list... But right up there would have to be the fact that Lin's our best PG, but he's more of a bench player.
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