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Re: Mitch Kupchak: Hard to find anything to feel good about the Lakers 

Post#41 » by madmaxmedia » Wed Dec 9, 2015 4:27 pm

slifersd wrote:Byron Scott is a jackass, I really don't think anyone can look at what he did the two years and come to a different conclusion. But the root cause of this team's problems has to start from the top. Jim, the head honcho of our basketball operations has been a catastrophe since he took over control. He just seems clueless as to what it would take to make his team good, and that is more concerning to me than 100 Byron Scott hirings. A company cannot do well without a competent CEO, and that is exactly what we do not have right now.

As far as Mitch is concerned, he has his problems as well. The whole LMA recruiting meeting crap was squarely on the front office. They were trying to sign a player and they did not even know how to talk to the guy. To some degree, I do wonder if the inept front office is a result of Mitch not doing his job right, or Jim putting too many of his drinking buddies in the office and took away Mitch's trusted supports. Either way, the FO has been very mediocre at best.

To me, though, the team needs to have a serious self examination and figure out why so many of the decisions they made have turned out so badly. We cannot learn from our mistakes unless we understand why we made those mistakes to begin with. Take this draft, for example, why was Russell picked over Okafor and Porzingis? Was it an issue where our scouting just messed up their evaluation? Was it an issue with our strategy (need vs. BPA)? Or was presumption of us being able to land LMA or Monroe? Whatever the problem is, we need to rectify it and make sure we don't repeat it. I am by no means saying Russell will definitely turn out to be a bust, but the decision certainly looks shaky right now.


I don't absolve Mitch entirely, and I certainly don't absolve Byron at all. But I believe it all starts at the top. You can call them a front office team, and in many respects they act as a team (and present themselves as a team), but who's the owner? That has an impact on the 'team' dynamics. Mitch is also very much a Laker family member, who will never publicly criticize a Buss family member, nor do I believe would he do anything internally to challenge the leadership structure (I don't think he's they type of guy who wants to be the #1 at any cost.)

But I believe if Jim handed the entire GM role and all basketball decisions to Mitch, things would have gone differently. If Mitch was the architect of the entire Laker plan from top to bottom, not only this season but where do we want to be next year or 5 years from now? And how do we get there, how do we manage the process? Maybe they'd still be struggling now, but I believe there would be a better plan in place, better implemented.

If things are dysfunctional at the very top, it doesn't matter what the soldiers and commanders do, it's going to be really, really difficult (and frankly require a lot of luck) to succeed. More likely you get a bunch of confusion with different pieces going in different directions, which is exactly what seems to be happening. The excuse is that it's Kobe's last year and Lakers suck anyway so it doesn't matter, so let him jack up shots, hey that's what the fans want to see. My answer is well, if the Lakers were actually better run and had a plan in place, it would matter that Kobe jacks up at 30% success rate.

Even if you call Jim semi-competent and semi-capable of his job, he's going to flat out lose to the rest of the competition which is not standing around feeling bad for the Lakers.
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Post#42 » by crazyeights » Wed Dec 9, 2015 4:53 pm

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tugs wrote:I'm thinking how come an AI led, iso heavy 76ers looked better than our current team.

MVP caliber player in his prime, DPOY center, and HOF coach.


The Eastern Conference sure helped too.
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Re: Mitch Kupchak: Hard to find anything to feel good about the Lakers 

Post#43 » by slifersd » Wed Dec 9, 2015 5:34 pm

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slifersd wrote:Byron Scott is a jackass, I really don't think anyone can look at what he did the two years and come to a different conclusion. But the root cause of this team's problems has to start from the top. Jim, the head honcho of our basketball operations has been a catastrophe since he took over control. He just seems clueless as to what it would take to make his team good, and that is more concerning to me than 100 Byron Scott hirings. A company cannot do well without a competent CEO, and that is exactly what we do not have right now.

As far as Mitch is concerned, he has his problems as well. The whole LMA recruiting meeting crap was squarely on the front office. They were trying to sign a player and they did not even know how to talk to the guy. To some degree, I do wonder if the inept front office is a result of Mitch not doing his job right, or Jim putting too many of his drinking buddies in the office and took away Mitch's trusted supports. Either way, the FO has been very mediocre at best.

To me, though, the team needs to have a serious self examination and figure out why so many of the decisions they made have turned out so badly. We cannot learn from our mistakes unless we understand why we made those mistakes to begin with. Take this draft, for example, why was Russell picked over Okafor and Porzingis? Was it an issue where our scouting just messed up their evaluation? Was it an issue with our strategy (need vs. BPA)? Or was presumption of us being able to land LMA or Monroe? Whatever the problem is, we need to rectify it and make sure we don't repeat it. I am by no means saying Russell will definitely turn out to be a bust, but the decision certainly looks shaky right now.


I don't absolve Mitch entirely, and I certainly don't absolve Byron at all. But I believe it all starts at the top. You can call them a front office team, and in many respects they act as a team (and present themselves as a team), but who's the owner? That has an impact on the 'team' dynamics. Mitch is also very much a Laker family member, who will never publicly criticize a Buss family member, nor do I believe would he do anything internally to challenge the leadership structure (I don't think he's they type of guy who wants to be the #1 at any cost.)

But I believe if Jim handed the entire GM role and all basketball decisions to Mitch, things would have gone differently. If Mitch was the architect of the entire Laker plan from top to bottom, not only this season but where do we want to be next year or 5 years from now? And how do we get there, how do we manage the process? Maybe they'd still be struggling now, but I believe there would be a better plan in place, better implemented.

If things are dysfunctional at the very top, it doesn't matter what the soldiers and commanders do, it's going to be really, really difficult (and frankly require a lot of luck) to succeed. More likely you get a bunch of confusion with different pieces going in different directions, which is exactly what seems to be happening. The excuse is that it's Kobe's last year and Lakers suck anyway so it doesn't matter, so let him jack up shots, hey that's what the fans want to see. My answer is well, if the Lakers were actually better run and had a plan in place, it would matter that Kobe jacks up at 30% success rate.

Even if you call Jim semi-competent and semi-capable of his job, he's going to flat out lose to the rest of the competition which is not standing around feeling bad for the Lakers.



Of course, I am not saying Jim is the good guy in this situation. I have always maintained that Jim , through the last few years of managing this team, has proven to be an idiot who can't get it right. Matter of fact, when I look back on his decisions in the last five years or so, almost every single one had turned out to be a cluster f*ck for the team. The guy is a moron, and he needs to let basketball people run the team, simple as that.

That being said, Byron's way of handling this team, especially this season, is not on Jim. Jim didn't tell him to screw around with all the youngsters and play Kobe way too many minutes. That's all on Byron. And it is because of that I think Byron is an idiot himself.
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Post#44 » by playboy jeanie » Wed Dec 9, 2015 6:59 pm

LApwnd wrote:People who keep on harping about taking porzingis sure have a terrible illness called "hindsightis"....ok4 i can understand but gtfho if anyone here says they saw this type of player in porzingis, shoot the dam knicks fans was boong thepoor guy at the draft and dumb ass SAS went on his moronic torade about how terrible a pick that was

Its the job of the GM and the front office. You have the 2nd pick in the draft. You were extremely lucky to jump up to the 2nd slot. You evaluate every player, look through tons of film, talk to all the coaches and scouts. You bring in the players you have an interest in, go through an extensive workout, some even twice. And you make the pick that you are so richly paid for. The fans and media do not have the access that the Laker front office had. Phil Jackson knew the fans would boo and media would question his pick of Porzingis when Mudiay and even Winslow was on the table. Picked him anyway. Phil did his job, Mitch didnt.
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Post#45 » by playboy jeanie » Wed Dec 9, 2015 7:01 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote:If we lose our pick this year and miss out on a stud like Simmons...that's going to be tough to swallow.

Much as I like Russell, it's tough enough to take that Porzingis is obviously going to be a total stud. Would have been really difficult to take him given the high bust factor of foreign players in the draft, but damn, he is a nice, nice player.

If the Lakers lose the pick, they will not be missing out on a stud like Simmons. Theyd miss out on someone like Jaylen Brown.
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Post#46 » by playboy jeanie » Wed Dec 9, 2015 7:10 pm

ScHoolBoy B wrote:Man 20+ games in people are arguing that Russell isn't that guy. Clarkson wasn't that guy 20+ games in either. He actually had to go to the D-League and get some games in. Russell can't even get that consistently with Byron screwing with his minutes. Give the kid some time and a another coach to play under.

Mitch is part of the blame, but not all. Byron not teaching these kids anything is large part of the blame. When training camp was over and we were playing our preseason games we looked like we had just came back from vacation. Everything was just sloppy and not even slightly organized and that's on Byron.

Clarkson was a second round pick. With the second pick in the draft, you are looking for a franchise type player. Guys like Towns and Porzingis. And lets not put everything on the coaching. Derek Fisher is a terrible coach, but Porzingis' game is just that overwhelming. If Russell was breaking defenses down and bombing from 3, Scott wouldnt be able to take him out. Russell just hasnt shown that transcendent talent. And, yes, I know Russell is young. But so is EVERYONE in the draft.
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Post#47 » by lake_show » Wed Dec 9, 2015 7:25 pm

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lake_show wrote:Wait.... What?!?! :lol:


Guys i know you don't think you have to read the article to post in a thread about an article but do us all a favor and read the article before you post.

Especially the part where Mitch says he's been "very pleased" with Russell. And he thinks Russell is going to be a "really, really, really good player". That's 3 reallys for those who weren't counting.

Sounds more like PC talk to me. Of course mitch isn't going to say I regret taking russell. Russell is a decent player I just don't see him being the type of piece a Wiggins pr randle could be. Like I said before hopefully I'm wrong and it's still early and I'm more than willing to give russell the benefit of the doubt especially since it's only be 21 games.


Sorry to say it Jedi but I think its just you. It's a lot more likely that you're projecting than that Mitch is secretly harboring some resentment over drafting a guy he personally picked only a few months ago. Meanwhile trying to hide it from the media by being "PC". Especially a rookie who has performed well.

Mitch is smart enough and has been around the league long enough to know that you dont judge a draft pick by looking at what all the other draft picks are doing... especially two months into the rookie season. That's something fans do.If that was the case we probably should've unloaded Kobe during his rookie season because even Derek Fisher and Travis Knight were out performing him consistently.

Just be patient bud. I know you dont see it, but there's just some people who arent good at that type of thing. Trust the people who know what they're doing. Russell will be fine. He'll be a good player for a long time.
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Post#48 » by Michael Lucky » Wed Dec 9, 2015 7:26 pm

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ScHoolBoy B wrote:Man 20+ games in people are arguing that Russell isn't that guy. Clarkson wasn't that guy 20+ games in either. He actually had to go to the D-League and get some games in. Russell can't even get that consistently with Byron screwing with his minutes. Give the kid some time and a another coach to play under.

Mitch is part of the blame, but not all. Byron not teaching these kids anything is large part of the blame. When training camp was over and we were playing our preseason games we looked like we had just came back from vacation. Everything was just sloppy and not even slightly organized and that's on Byron.

Clarkson was a second round pick. With the second pick in the draft, you are looking for a franchise type player. Guys like Towns and Porzingis. And lets not put everything on the coaching. Derek Fisher is a terrible coach, but Porzingis' game is just that overwhelming. If Russell was breaking defenses down and bombing from 3, Scott wouldnt be able to take him out. Russell just hasnt shown that transcendent talent. And, yes, I know Russell is young. But so is EVERYONE in the draft.

lol please. There's a huge difference between a 22 year old and a 19 year old in today's league. Also lost count of the number of players who are stars in today's league that were irrelevant or not even in the NBA yet at 19. Porz is also a year older. But just to give a list. Lillard and Curry were still two years from being drafted. Westbrook was still struggling at UCLA. Harden was playing at ASU and once he got in the league he was nothing to brag about his first two years in the league. Let's not even bother talking about Paul George or Favors. Lowry didn't even get onto the scene until he was 23.
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Post#49 » by ak7 » Wed Dec 9, 2015 7:33 pm

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ScHoolBoy B wrote:Man 20+ games in people are arguing that Russell isn't that guy. Clarkson wasn't that guy 20+ games in either. He actually had to go to the D-League and get some games in. Russell can't even get that consistently with Byron screwing with his minutes. Give the kid some time and a another coach to play under.

Mitch is part of the blame, but not all. Byron not teaching these kids anything is large part of the blame. When training camp was over and we were playing our preseason games we looked like we had just came back from vacation. Everything was just sloppy and not even slightly organized and that's on Byron.

Clarkson was a second round pick. With the second pick in the draft, you are looking for a franchise type player. Guys like Towns and Porzingis. And lets not put everything on the coaching. Derek Fisher is a terrible coach, but Porzingis' game is just that overwhelming. If Russell was breaking defenses down and bombing from 3, Scott wouldnt be able to take him out. Russell just hasnt shown that transcendent talent. And, yes, I know Russell is young. But so is EVERYONE in the draft.


You ever take a step back to think that not every franchise player in the history of the NBA was Michael Jordan-equivalent in his rookie season?

LeBron James, the most transcendent player in a long time, posted his worse season his rookie year.

Westbrook wasn't the greatest his rookie season. Curry, etc.

Every player is different. Every player's development track is different.
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Post#50 » by playboy jeanie » Wed Dec 9, 2015 7:34 pm

Towns, Russell, Okafor and Porzingis were all born within a 6 month period.
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Post#51 » by Slava » Wed Dec 9, 2015 7:51 pm

"Breaking down defenses and bombing 3s" - An entire legion of fans who cannot find talent in basketball beyond that.
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Post#52 » by crazyeights » Wed Dec 9, 2015 7:56 pm

playboy jeanie wrote:Towns, Russell, Okafor and Porzingis were all born within a 6 month period.


And only one of them is a point-guard.

Porzingis is gigantic. Of course he can go around and grab a ton of boards and shoot over people. Okafor was always the most ready. Towns was number 1.

In the end the Lakers made the decision to draft a PG. It's the most influential position on the court, but it's the most difficult position to master. Especially for a guy 1 year away from high school. Also he's been playing with 5 other ball-dominant guys:

1. Kobe (worst offensive season ever, leads the team in usage)
2. Randle (one of the most ISO-heavy players in the NBA)
3. Lou Williams (scorer, his assist ratio is 13.9%)
4. Nick Young (6.0% assist ratio)
5. Clarkson (a tough fit when playing with both Russell AND Kobe; doesn't know if he should defer or take over)

Our offense isn't really made for a dominant PG anyway. This is what I don't understand about Mitch/Jim/Byron:

They hire Mike Brown who decides to run the Princeton Offense with Nash/Kobe/Dwight/Pau. It was meant to emphasize Pau who didn't fit into Brown's previous (read: nonexistent) offense. Then they fire him after a horrible start. They hire MDA to emphasize Nash. Nash is unfortunately hurt with what turns into a career-ending injury, in the meantime they've squandered idea to get Pau involved again, yet they aren't able to move Pau for any pieces, and MDA drives down his trade value.

So after all the turmoil of those seasons, they hire Byron to run the freaking Princeton again, only this time we don't have any great passing big-men to emphasize, and we don't have any great shooters. Regardless, we tank, and finally get the PG that Mitch and Jim have clearly wanted for years. Haven't had someone dynamic there since NVE or really Magic.

BUT we continue to keep Byron running the Princeton! It makes no damn sense. It's ass-backwards. Russell is a James Harden type player. He should have the ball in his hands nearly every possession, making things happen. He should have players who when they get the ball they don't just dribble around from 18 feet, drive, spin, and miss a 8 foot jumper. He needs shooters, cutters, screeners. He is perfect for the new NBA.

The problem is it's not happening this year. Not with Kobe Bryant's usage rate. Not with Byron Scott's offense. Not with Lou Williams finishing games for him. Not with Randle without a jumpshot.

I'm encouraged that Mitch said they need to put pieces around Russell. That's the kind of talk when you're in the middle of rebuilding. It means you finally have someone to build around. Here's to hoping, Mitch. Get to work.

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Post#53 » by Jedi32 » Wed Dec 9, 2015 8:07 pm

lake_show wrote:
Jedi32 wrote:
lake_show wrote:Wait.... What?!?! :lol:


Guys i know you don't think you have to read the article to post in a thread about an article but do us all a favor and read the article before you post.

Especially the part where Mitch says he's been "very pleased" with Russell. And he thinks Russell is going to be a "really, really, really good player". That's 3 reallys for those who weren't counting.

Sounds more like PC talk to me. Of course mitch isn't going to say I regret taking russell. Russell is a decent player I just don't see him being the type of piece a Wiggins pr randle could be. Like I said before hopefully I'm wrong and it's still early and I'm more than willing to give russell the benefit of the doubt especially since it's only be 21 games.


Sorry to say it Jedi but I think its just you. It's a lot more likely that you're projecting than that Mitch is secretly harboring some resentment over drafting a guy he personally picked only a few months ago. Meanwhile trying to hide it from the media by being "PC". Especially a rookie who has performed well.

Mitch is smart enough and has been around the league long enough to know that you dont judge a draft pick by looking at what all the other draft picks are doing... especially two months into the rookie season. That's something fans do.If that was the case we probably should've unloaded Kobe during his rookie season because even Derek Fisher and Travis Knight were out performing him consistently.

Just be patient bud. I know you dont see it, but there's just some people who arent good at that type of thing. Trust the people who know what they're doing. Russell will be fine. He'll be a good player for a long time.

It may be me. I was just giving my opinion. I hope he does great. I understand it's early and I'm more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Post#54 » by LApwnd » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:56 am

playboy jeanie wrote:
LApwnd wrote:People who keep on harping about taking porzingis sure have a terrible illness called "hindsightis"....ok4 i can understand but gtfho if anyone here says they saw this type of player in porzingis, shoot the dam knicks fans was boong thepoor guy at the draft and dumb ass SAS went on his moronic torade about how terrible a pick that was

Its the job of the GM and the front office. You have the 2nd pick in the draft. You were extremely lucky to jump up to the 2nd slot. You evaluate every player, look through tons of film, talk to all the coaches and scouts. You bring in the players you have an interest in, go through an extensive workout, some even twice. And you make the pick that you are so richly paid for. The fans and media do not have the access that the Laker front office had. Phil Jackson knew the fans would boo and media would question his pick of Porzingis when Mudiay and even Winslow was on the table. Picked him anyway. Phil did his job, Mitch didnt.

Porz was projected top 5, you giving phil to much credit, if phil had #2 pick and had the balls to take porz at 2 then id give him credit ...if we had to redo draft but future success was still undetermined, porz still would not be the pick. To much unknown and we always have had mediocre to bad pg. Only skipping ok4 was in question
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Post#55 » by ALL HAIL » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:28 pm

I've always liked Tubby Smith as an NBA head coach.

He's got the name recognition, the resume, and the respect. Plus, he has an aura and has been successfull pretty much everywhere he's been.

However, although I think his defensive strategies would translate, I just don't know if he'd be able to run an NBA offense.

He's worth a look though.
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Post#56 » by Pointgod » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:36 am

Slava wrote:
"Clearly, three victories at this time is not what we thought we'd be. So that's frustrating and it's up to myself and Byron [Scott] to figure it out and hopefully have some improvement toward something that's more consistent, more fun to watch and less frustrating."


"I know people aren't happy but that also should be directed at me. That's the bottom line," Kupchak said. "Everybody has to share in the blame. Whether that's the GM, the coach or the players, it's got to be directed somewhere.

"I think our fans would understand if you're actually developing young players and there's some growth, and maybe that's yet to come. But in the first 20 games, it's tough to find consistent results to feel good about."


On Kobe's shot attempts:
"It's not a game that he plays by himself either. There are teammates that have to put him in positions and a coaching staff that has to put him in position where maybe he'd be more successful. It's hard to say after 20 games if this is it. Clearly, he's not the Kobe of old."


LA Times


Sorry but this is the team that Mitch and Jimmy built so he should take responsibility for the lackluster product that's on the floor. I could have told you that reigning Nick Young and trading a draft pick for Hibbert was a mistake. Years of ignoring mid tier free agents and putting off amassing draft picks has come to bite the Lakers in the ass. Yes they're tanking and the tank doesn't even look all that great even if they land Ben Simmons. It will take at least another 3 years just to become a playoff team, championships aren't even in question at the moment.
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Post#57 » by Slava » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:39 am

Pointgod wrote:
Slava wrote:
"Clearly, three victories at this time is not what we thought we'd be. So that's frustrating and it's up to myself and Byron [Scott] to figure it out and hopefully have some improvement toward something that's more consistent, more fun to watch and less frustrating."


"I know people aren't happy but that also should be directed at me. That's the bottom line," Kupchak said. "Everybody has to share in the blame. Whether that's the GM, the coach or the players, it's got to be directed somewhere.

"I think our fans would understand if you're actually developing young players and there's some growth, and maybe that's yet to come. But in the first 20 games, it's tough to find consistent results to feel good about."


On Kobe's shot attempts:
"It's not a game that he plays by himself either. There are teammates that have to put him in positions and a coaching staff that has to put him in position where maybe he'd be more successful. It's hard to say after 20 games if this is it. Clearly, he's not the Kobe of old."


LA Times


Sorry but this is the team that Mitch and Jimmy built so he should take responsibility for the lackluster product that's on the floor. I could have told you that reigning Nick Young and trading a draft pick for Hibbert was a mistake. Years of ignoring mid tier free agents and putting off amassing draft picks has come to bite the Lakers in the ass. Yes they're tanking and the tank doesn't even look all that great even if they land Ben Simmons. It will take at least another 3 years just to become a playoff team, championships aren't even in question at the moment.


They traded a conditional 2022 2nd rounder for Hibbert, so basically nothing.
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Post#58 » by Pointgod » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:14 am

Slava wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Slava wrote:


On Kobe's shot attempts:


LA Times


Sorry but this is the team that Mitch and Jimmy built so he should take responsibility for the lackluster product that's on the floor. I could have told you that reigning Nick Young and trading a draft pick for Hibbert was a mistake. Years of ignoring mid tier free agents and putting off amassing draft picks has come to bite the Lakers in the ass. Yes they're tanking and the tank doesn't even look all that great even if they land Ben Simmons. It will take at least another 3 years just to become a playoff team, championships aren't even in question at the moment.


They traded a conditional 2022 2nd rounder for Hibbert, so basically nothing.


It points to the bigger issue of management not using that cap space to take on an asset instead opting to trade for a veteran that won't make a difference
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Post#59 » by Slava » Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:26 am

Pointgod wrote:
Slava wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Sorry but this is the team that Mitch and Jimmy built so he should take responsibility for the lackluster product that's on the floor. I could have told you that reigning Nick Young and trading a draft pick for Hibbert was a mistake. Years of ignoring mid tier free agents and putting off amassing draft picks has come to bite the Lakers in the ass. Yes they're tanking and the tank doesn't even look all that great even if they land Ben Simmons. It will take at least another 3 years just to become a playoff team, championships aren't even in question at the moment.


They traded a conditional 2022 2nd rounder for Hibbert, so basically nothing.


It points to the bigger issue of management not using that cap space to take on an asset instead opting to trade for a veteran that won't make a difference


There was only one idiotic team dumping salary and Philly took it, Kings weren't going to do that trade within the division. You are making it seem like Lakers never explored it when they did it the season before with Lin.
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