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Re: Bazemore 

Post#41 » by N3LL » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:57 pm

Lol over on lakersground there's 2 guys who are damn near obsessed with Clarkson too with similar posting styles.
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Re: Bazemore 

Post#42 » by Goudelock » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:25 pm

N3LL wrote:Lol over on lakersground there's 2 guys who are damn near obsessed with Clarkson too with similar posting styles.


So one of them migrated over here? Wonderful!
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Post#43 » by warrenpeace » Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:48 pm

Never been on Lakersground and not obsessed with Clarkson. I don't even think that he is that good. But I do think that he is the best and most consistent Laker, which is not saying much. We are the second worst team in the NBA. How good can any player on the teem really be? No player on the team is good enough to be obsessed over. This is my opinion and it's not going to change until we get someone better than him on the team, which wouldn't be so hard, because he is not that good. But it's clear to me that one is only supposed to be obsessed with D'Angelo.
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Re: Bazemore 

Post#44 » by No-Man » Sat Mar 5, 2016 6:47 am

warrenpeace wrote:Actually, teams with cap room can offer Clarkson $57.8 million, but before he start talking to other teams, the Laker can offer Clarkson a four-year contract up to $88.9 million. Clarkson and his Agent will insist on guarantee starting position before he signs. Why would he want to come of the bench for the 2nd worst team in the NBA, when he can start for a playoff team? The Lakers front office sees Clarkson as a starting point guard/shooting guard. He is the teams best and most consistent player and if they don't Land a big name free agent, he will still be the best player on the team. Clarkson has incredible work ethics and will work very hard in the summer. He will be an even better player and a better defender next season.


Clarkson's max offer from another team will look like this for LA,

year 1 5,6m$
year 2 5,8m$
year 3 23m$
year 4 24m$

There is no way you match that if anybody signs him to that offer sheet, for the other team even though is a massive overpay it would only count as 14,5m$ per year.
Still a ridiculous amount.
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Re: Bazemore 

Post#45 » by gts1 » Sun Mar 6, 2016 3:44 pm

Fischella wrote:
warrenpeace wrote:Actually, teams with cap room can offer Clarkson $57.8 million, but before he start talking to other teams, the Laker can offer Clarkson a four-year contract up to $88.9 million. Clarkson and his Agent will insist on guarantee starting position before he signs. Why would he want to come of the bench for the 2nd worst team in the NBA, when he can start for a playoff team? The Lakers front office sees Clarkson as a starting point guard/shooting guard. He is the teams best and most consistent player and if they don't Land a big name free agent, he will still be the best player on the team. Clarkson has incredible work ethics and will work very hard in the summer. He will be an even better player and a better defender next season.


Clarkson's max offer from another team will look like this for LA,

year 1 5,6m$
year 2 5,8m$
year 3 23m$
year 4 24m$

There is no way you match that if anybody signs him to that offer sheet, for the other team even though is a massive overpay it would only count as 14,5m$ per year.
Still a ridiculous amount.

That's actually not a bad contract when you look at where the salary cap is headed next two summers


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Re: Bazemore 

Post#46 » by No-Man » Sun Mar 6, 2016 4:30 pm

gts1 wrote:
Fischella wrote:
warrenpeace wrote:Actually, teams with cap room can offer Clarkson $57.8 million, but before he start talking to other teams, the Laker can offer Clarkson a four-year contract up to $88.9 million. Clarkson and his Agent will insist on guarantee starting position before he signs. Why would he want to come of the bench for the 2nd worst team in the NBA, when he can start for a playoff team? The Lakers front office sees Clarkson as a starting point guard/shooting guard. He is the teams best and most consistent player and if they don't Land a big name free agent, he will still be the best player on the team. Clarkson has incredible work ethics and will work very hard in the summer. He will be an even better player and a better defender next season.


Clarkson's max offer from another team will look like this for LA,

year 1 5,6m$
year 2 5,8m$
year 3 23m$
year 4 24m$

There is no way you match that if anybody signs him to that offer sheet, for the other team even though is a massive overpay it would only count as 14,5m$ per year.
Still a ridiculous amount.

That's actually not a bad contract when you look at where the salary cap is headed next two summers


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23-24m$ for two years for Clarkson? that is dreadful
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Re: Bazemore 

Post#47 » by DNP-Old » Sun Mar 6, 2016 4:43 pm

gts1 wrote:
Fischella wrote:
warrenpeace wrote:Actually, teams with cap room can offer Clarkson $57.8 million, but before he start talking to other teams, the Laker can offer Clarkson a four-year contract up to $88.9 million. Clarkson and his Agent will insist on guarantee starting position before he signs. Why would he want to come of the bench for the 2nd worst team in the NBA, when he can start for a playoff team? The Lakers front office sees Clarkson as a starting point guard/shooting guard. He is the teams best and most consistent player and if they don't Land a big name free agent, he will still be the best player on the team. Clarkson has incredible work ethics and will work very hard in the summer. He will be an even better player and a better defender next season.


Clarkson's max offer from another team will look like this for LA,

year 1 5,6m$
year 2 5,8m$
year 3 23m$
year 4 24m$

There is no way you match that if anybody signs him to that offer sheet, for the other team even though is a massive overpay it would only count as 14,5m$ per year.
Still a ridiculous amount.

That's actually not a bad contract when you look at where the salary cap is headed next two summers


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I think Bazemore could receive a similar amount (although probably closer to 48-50m). I hope LAL is in the running. I think he is the type of player this young team needs. Bazemore is a defencive minded wing who has had to work very hard to create his place in the NBA. He is also young enough to still be a very good player when the LAL youth matures in a couple of years. I would like to see Williams traded and Clarkson moved to the 6th man role with Russell and Bazemore starting in the backcourt.
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Re: Bazemore 

Post#48 » by gts1 » Sun Mar 6, 2016 5:01 pm

Fischella wrote:
gts1 wrote:
Fischella wrote:
Clarkson's max offer from another team will look like this for LA,

year 1 5,6m$
year 2 5,8m$
year 3 23m$
year 4 24m$

There is no way you match that if anybody signs him to that offer sheet, for the other team even though is a massive overpay it would only count as 14,5m$ per year.
Still a ridiculous amount.

That's actually not a bad contract when you look at where the salary cap is headed next two summers


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23-24m$ for two years for Clarkson? that is dreadful


oh boy, you're going to be in for a shock the next two summers and going forward from there...lol
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Post#49 » by what would jack bauer do? » Sun Mar 6, 2016 5:03 pm

Defense man, we just need defense. Our pieces look like garbage without defenders surrounding them (and our pieces need to mature on defense as well). We're weak defensively at the most important guard position and we don't have anything close to a safety net in reference to help defenders at the SF position and weakside help in the front court. Our supporting cast makes our young players look worse than they are. For example, the Thunder had Westbrook for a good chunk of last year with no Durant and they couldn't scratch the playoffs (yes I know we have nowhere near that talent). If they built that team properly and threw defensive minded players next to one of the best players in the league in westbrook during that 14-15 season there's no way they underachieve like that. Instead they threw hot garbage like Waiters and Kanter next to him.

Our summer should just be focused on getting guys like Bazemore, Shumpert, Corey Brewer, or Joakim Noah (on a discount) to help us on defense. I fully approve of signing Bazemore to whatever price ATL won't match because we're not getting Durant, westbrook, or Derozan or any max free agent. We should start setting our sights onto Anthony Davis down the road cause we're hot garbage right now. Well, unless we get lucky and get a top 2 pick this year.
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Re: Bazemore 

Post#50 » by warrenpeace » Sun Mar 6, 2016 7:38 pm

rsrii wrote:I would like to see Williams traded and Clarkson moved to the 6th man role with Russell and Bazemore starting in the backcourt.
No thank you. Been there, done that. We can do better than Bazemore. First of all, Bazemore is a (smallish) small forward. You may want him to start over Clarkson, but you are not the coach or a member of the Lakers front office. He will not beat out Clarkson for a starting position, and he is not good enough to start at small forward on a championship team. You don't go from being the guy a lottery team didn't want, to a starter on a championship caliber team. I see Bazemore as coming of the bench at both small forward and shooting guard.
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Re: Bazemore 

Post#51 » by DNP-Old » Sun Mar 6, 2016 9:03 pm

warrenpeace wrote:
rsrii wrote:I would like to see Williams traded and Clarkson moved to the 6th man role with Russell and Bazemore starting in the backcourt.
No thank you. Been there, done that. We can do better than Bazemore. First of all, Bazemore is a (smallish) small forward. You may want him to start over Clarkson, but you are not the coach or a member of the Lakers front office. He will not beat out Clarkson for a starting position, and he is not good enough to start at small forward on a championship team. You don't go from being the guy a lottery team didn't want, to a starter on a championship caliber team. I see Bazemore as coming of the bench at both small forward and shooting guard.


1. If LAL can do better than Bazemore feel free to list and discuss your thoughts on those players.
2. I believe Bazemore would be a solid 2 guard who can play some 3.
3. Yes I would like him to start at the 2 and no I am not one of LAL's coaches or execs. Are you?
4. He doesn't have to "beat out" Clarkson to start ahead of him. I'm not trying to say that Bazemore is better than Clarkson. I just think the team would be better off playing them that way, much as the spurs have used Manu Ginobili over the years. I don't think you will find too many people who think D.Green is better than Manu.
5. If Bazemore is good enough to start on a championship team is moot as LAL is far from a championship team.
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Re: Bazemore 

Post#52 » by warrenpeace » Sun Mar 6, 2016 9:51 pm

Well I believe Bazemore is a bench player. Backing up both D'Angelo and Clarkson and also as a backup small forward. He comes in off the bench for Clarkson with D'Angelo as the point guard and coming in off the bench for D'Angelo and Clarkson moves to point guard.
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Re: Bazemore 

Post#53 » by Frank Dux » Sun Mar 6, 2016 10:17 pm

If we signed Bazemore, I would probably start him over Clarkson at the two for defensive reasons. He's a better shooter, and gives you more hustle plays as well. Clarkson can then be staggered somewhat with Russell, and can get more touches with the second unit.

Also, while Bazemore might not be starting material on a championship team, he's been a pretty key rotation player on a team over the last couple years.
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Re: Bazemore 

Post#54 » by No-Man » Sun Mar 6, 2016 11:32 pm

A Guard rotation of D-Lo, JClarkson and Baze would be awesome, if you add Ingram, and then Brown, Huertas or another signing, a defensive PG like Cole or so... that sounds good.

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